Swami Seeds

[kristoffolese]

I follow what you are saying.
But I have been breeding since '92. I know there are others that have been doing it much longer, but I feel with 26 years in, I have some confidence in selection and genetic combinations as well as how terpenes will combine. No not 100%, but pretty close. Even from my very first projects, it seemed very natural to me and still does.
I can do it with one pack of seeds, as the good ones always seem to come to me. Not being arrogant, just know my potential, and all whom have used my seeds say they are at leat equal to and better that what they buy, from breeders like The Rev, Dr. Greenthumbs, Top Dawg, OBSoul........
And I have selection skills on the f3 to 5 as well.
I was just blessed with a really good nose, and the ability to spot the best that comes across my way.
I just got back from the Hawaii expo, and met all the local and big seeds guys. I feel comfortable saying that i produce the same quality or better.
I have been humble my whole life, and given props to all the guys and put myself lower, but I also have to be real, and know what I do, and not be afraid to take my place either.
Also I don't believe in the big numbers produce the best seeds.
Because it's too easy to lose focus no matter how well disciplined you are and how good your notes are.
Most cull the slow growers and the mutants. Slow growers in veg, doesn't mean slow in flower either. Some take off once flowered. And mutants, can be the progression of a strain, not regression always.
So big seed number will yield results of very healthy veg plants, with great structure, and whatever looks nice. But that's not always wherethe potency and flavor hide.
I have made mistakes before and will always make mistakes to some degree, but that's how you learn, and keep learning.
I had a few female flowers show up on one of the 4 BOH's, so recessiveness still lies in those genetics.
Seems what I have given out for people to test are hermaphrodite free.
But I am not looking for any pats on the back, but I can hold my own.
Swami is used for breeding material, as I will improve on what gifts I purchased from him.

I Def agree with the comment on mutants. Oftentimes they're trash.. but I've seen some weird, crinkle-leaf mutants (in 2 dif strains!) appear, that are DEFINITELY stronger in effect intensity than their "normal" sisters. Gotta grown em out a bit before tossin em

 

[jonsnow399]

Yes and no lol Yes, u do need to do some pheno hunting. But JimiH hit the nail on the head- The value, is in its suitability as breeding stock. The vigor, the extremely intense rushy effect, the power, the yield... But the keepers dont have EVERYTHING... terps not as intense as we'd like, flowering a bit longer than we'd like, and the leaf to calyx ratio is higher than we'd like... But a single, proper cross with subsequent f2 breedings parsing out the genes, can produce a plant that retains all of the power, effect, vigor and yield of the nl5haze keeper, while adding the reduced flowering times, hi calyx to leaf ratio and resin/terp production of the other parent. Jim is right on the money suggesting a hash plant cross. May take running serious #'s of plants to get all the traits u want, in the intensity u want, in one plant, without keeping genes u DON'T want in the genome. Can be very challenging, time consuming, as many of these genes are not simple "yes", "no", have it or don't, types. Population genetics must be employed with cannabis, as simple mandelion (sp?) genetics are not sufficient to express the range of genetic expression. 2 plants may both share a gene that produces "skunk" smelling terps. But one may have a much more INTENSE expression of it. For the average grower, though... I can almost guarantee you'll get a winner by crossing a keeper nl5haze to a keeper HP.

Yes and no lol Yes, u do need to do some pheno hunting. But JimiH hit the nail on the head- The value, is in its suitability as breeding stock. The vigor, the extremely intense rushy effect, the power, the yield... But the keepers dont have EVERYTHING... terps not as intense as we'd like, flowering a bit longer than we'd like, and the leaf to calyx ratio is higher than we'd like... But a single, proper cross with subsequent f2 breedings parsing out the genes, can produce a plant that retains all of the power, effect, vigor and yield of the nl5haze keeper, while adding the reduced flowering times, hi calyx to leaf ratio and resin/terp production of the other parent. Jim is right on the money suggesting a hash plant cross. May take running serious #'s of plants to get all the traits u want, in the intensity u want, in one plant, without keeping genes u DON'T want in the genome. Can be very challenging, time consuming, as many of these genes are not simple "yes", "no", have it or don't, types. Population genetics must be employed with cannabis, as simple mandelion (sp?) genetics are not sufficient to express the range of genetic expression. 2 plants may both share a gene that produces "skunk" smelling terps. But one may have a much more INTENSE expression of it. For the average grower, though... I can almost guarantee you'll get a winner by crossing a keeper nl5haze to a keeper HP.

I don't care about how it tastes, smells, or bag appeal, only potency and type of high.

 

[kristoffolese]

I don't care about how it tastes, smells, or bag appeal, only potency and type of high.

If the type of high ur after is the intense, racey-rushy, speedy, “up” sativa, it’s definitely in there. I love it... just not all the time lol

 

[jonsnow399]

If the type of high ur after is the intense, racey-rushy, speedy, “up” sativa, it’s definitely in there. I love it... just not all the time lol

Me either, that's why I have Raindance and Copper Chem going.

 

[Hyptno]

I received my first order from Swami seeds today. They treated me like a valuable old customer. Prompt delivery well packaged and a bonus I didn't expect.
Large fully mature seeds of old school genetics. I'm very excited to get these started.
Thank you

 

[jonsnow399]

I received my first order from Swami seeds today. They treated me like a valuable old customer. Prompt delivery well packaged and a bonus I didn't expect.
Large fully mature seeds of old school genetics. I'm very excited to get these started.
Thank you

How long and what state if I may ask?

 

[Hyptno]

How long and what state if I may ask?

About a week. I'm in central Maine and my post office box is a 20 minute drive so I don't check it but about twice a week.
The priority mail cost them $7.20 out of pocket to send a small order. I'll make a little larger order next.

 

[kona gold]

Concering "big numbers" needed to produce best seeds... it's really just simple probability. Your % chances to obtain the exact combo of gene traits you're after, are much better if u are running high numbers of plants. In fact, imo, it is a MUST, if u don't wanna spend years looking for that exact combo ur after. I also want to make a clear distinction between what Im talking about, and subjective breeding methods that still produce potent, dank, pleasing, saleable, etc, weed. That's not what I referring to. I'm referring to the hunting of specific genetic traits, to obtain an exact result. I have had FIRE crosses, that I considered a failure, because I did not get the specific gene expression I was after. The chembo kush (not kimbo), is an example of this for me. I wanted the CHEM expression. Got fucking FIRE frome the f2 crosses... but no Chem Higher numbers of plants will definitely help with this type of selection.

Ok I can see again your point, hopefully clearly.
Locking down desired traits is what I call breeding.
Can be anything you like, say a certain leaf type, or branching pattern, color, potency, flavor, height, stretch, maturation time,.....
So what you are talking about is creating a line or an IBL, as you know, and locking down traits or expressions.
That is not really done much these days, as it used to be what most breeders aspired to do.
Nl#5, over twenty years that was supposedly worked for. Skunk#1, Haze.....
So with Swami I am glad he brought some good genetics to the table. And has worked some of his lines well, and others are more F1's it seems.
What I can tell with the BOH, is he tried to breed for type if high, resin production, and flower formation.
But even this is only been worked so far, as there is still some variations in these traits.
But I'm not him, and maybe I am not right at all on his ideas for breeding the BOH.
Either way I'm glad to have access to they older genetics.

 

[kristoffolese]

Ok I can see again your point, hopefully clearly.
Locking down desired traits is what I call breeding.
Can be anything you like, say a certain leaf type, or branching pattern, color, potency, flavor, height, stretch, maturation time,.....
So what you are talking about is creating a line or an IBL, as you know, and locking down traits or expressions.
That is not really done much these days, as it used to be what most breeders aspired to do.
Nl#5, over twenty years that was supposedly worked for. Skunk#1, Haze.....
So with Swami I am glad he brought some good genetics to the table. And has worked some of his lines well, and others are more F1's it seems.
What I can tell with the BOH, is he tried to breed for type if high, resin production, and flower formation.
But even this is only been worked so far, as there is still some variations in these traits.
But I'm not him, and maybe I am not right at all on his ideas for breeding the BOH.
Either way I'm glad to have access to they older genetics.

Yup Although IBL would be a gracious term for my efforts lol More FAILINGS to create IBL's than successes, for sure lol But that's why I respect guys like Estes and Adam Jacques so much. It's tough

 

[SCJedi]

Good news, ColdRain got 14 of 16 of my Nigerian Sunshines to break soil this weekend. I am working on the Gas/Coot-modified living soil recipe generously shared by Gas. I almost have all of the Bu's Blend compost secured for the 1 yard of base mix to get it all cooking for the spring fling. That stuff is in such high demand here that it is hard to source. Amazon sells it for 3x what B&M stores do.

My 5 x 5 mother/clone tent is up and functional. 550W of LED over a multi-flow system. Once the multi-flow system is connected, tested and functional I am popping Swami's NL5 x Haze and BOG's Sour Bubble. Then, the pheno hunt is on! Here Comes Sunshine!

 

[kristoffolese]

Good news, ColdRain got 14 of 16 of my Nigerian Sunshines to break soil this weekend. I am working on the Gas/Coot-modified living soil recipe generously shared by Gas. I almost have all of the Bu's Blend compost secured for the 1 yard of base mix to get it all cooking for the spring fling. That stuff is in such high demand here that it is hard to source. Amazon sells it for 3x what B&M stores do.

My 5 x 5 mother/clone tent is up and functional. 550W of LED over a multi-flow system. Once the multi-flow system is connected, tested and functional I am popping Swami's NL5 x Haze and BOG's Sour Bubble. Then, the pheno hunt is on! Here Comes Sunshine!

An EXCELLENT source of high grade compost, castings, and even the “coots mix” additive pack itself (basalt powder, alfalfa meal, barley malt, etc), is “KIS Organics” in Woodinville, WA. They have a website and offer free shipping. Plus- they give Coot a 10% cut of the coots mix additive pack sales, so he can actually make something on his own mix lol It can be a bit expensive if youre needing large amounts... but if youre just mixing a single bale of sphagnum (smaller, bagged spagnum not recommended by coot, as it is sterilized- the bales are cut on-site & still contain their living micro-ecology), KIS is an excellent source of the highest quality organics The owner, Tad, has a very informative “KIS Organics” YouTube blog- I highly recommend the 3-part interview series with Jim Bennett, aka, Calackamas Coot. Tons of useful and interesting info... excellent info for the “highest quality possible” minded grower

 

[kristoffolese]

Good news, ColdRain got 14 of 16 of my Nigerian Sunshines to break soil this weekend. I am working on the Gas/Coot-modified living soil recipe generously shared by Gas. I almost have all of the Bu's Blend compost secured for the 1 yard of base mix to get it all cooking for the spring fling. That stuff is in such high demand here that it is hard to source. Amazon sells it for 3x what B&M stores do.

My 5 x 5 mother/clone tent is up and functional. 550W of LED over a multi-flow system. Once the multi-flow system is connected, tested and functional I am popping Swami's NL5 x Haze and BOG's Sour Bubble. Then, the pheno hunt is on! Here Comes Sunshine!

These 91’ NL5 x Nevilles Haze LOVE the Coots mix soil. I was dumbstruck at the difference in the final quality of the smoke... the synthetic, SOG style was lower-mid range junk, compared to what flowered out of the CM living soil. Across the board, just better.

 

[bobdagrowah]

These 91’ NL5 x Nevilles Haze LOVE the Coots mix soil. I was dumbstruck at the difference in the final quality of the smoke... the synthetic, SOG style was lower-mid range junk, compared to what flowered out of the CM living soil. Across the board, just better.

How Much did it cost for you to go organic with the coots mix also which receipe do you use

 

[Bringdemfya]

Great descriptions and grow reports all,props~!

The typical stories of landrace orientated genetics.

We'll be working on a Nigerian Sunshine repopulation soon. There is a secret stash..shhh...

The nl#5 x haze came exactly how it looks from my seeds today. Feral,hempy looking,cough laden,1 hit and your there on mars,somewhere...

What I do have a lot of up for grabs at 50% off and packs of 20 beans is Blue Orca Haze #J x et's a5haze poly (Neville's Haze/Malawi x a5haze/Thai) Because the mother was/is awesome and this stuff needs to get out there in your bowls~

This was 1 of 26 Blue Orca Haze females selected for smokability and growth habits purposely pollinated with the a5 haze dominant et poly to combine the haze a and the haze c via landrace outcrossings.

Indica work lined up for this spring utilizing NL# 5 The Black/NL#5/Haze,and other fat indica selections. Smells like 1986 indica's around here these days..
Gas

 

[kona gold]

Great descriptions and grow reports all,props~!

The typical stories of landrace orientated genetics.

We'll be working on a Nigerian Sunshine repopulation soon. There is a secret stash..shhh...

The nl#5 x haze came exactly how it looks from my seeds today. Feral,hempy looking,cough laden,1 hit and your there on mars,somewhere...

What I do have a lot of up for grabs at 50% off and packs of 20 beans is Blue Orca Haze #J x et's a5haze poly (Neville's Haze/Malawi x a5haze/Thai) Because the mother was/is awesome and this stuff needs to get out there in your bowls~

This was 1 of 26 Blue Orca Haze females selected for smokability and growth habits purposely pollinated with the a5 haze dominant et poly to combine the haze a and the haze c via landrace outcrossings.

Indica work lined up for this spring utilizing NL# 5 The Black/NL#5/Haze,and other fat indica selections. Smells like 1986 indica's around here these days..
Gas

Sounds awesome man!
Could you describe your Nl#5 ?
Thanks

 

[jonsnow399]

Great descriptions and grow reports all,props~!

The typical stories of landrace orientated genetics.

We'll be working on a Nigerian Sunshine repopulation soon. There is a secret stash..shhh...

The nl#5 x haze came exactly how it looks from my seeds today. Feral,hempy looking,cough laden,1 hit and your there on mars,somewhere...

What I do have a lot of up for grabs at 50% off and packs of 20 beans is Blue Orca Haze #J x et's a5haze poly (Neville's Haze/Malawi x a5haze/Thai) Because the mother was/is awesome and this stuff needs to get out there in your bowls~

This was 1 of 26 Blue Orca Haze females selected for smokability and growth habits purposely pollinated with the a5 haze dominant et poly to combine the haze a and the haze c via landrace outcrossings.

Indica work lined up for this spring utilizing NL# 5 The Black/NL#5/Haze,and other fat indica selections. Smells like 1986 indica's around here these days..
Gas

Hmm, the site says not found.

 

[kristoffolese]

How Much did it cost for you to go organic with the coots mix also which receipe do you use

1 part Spagnum, 1part aeration (pumice), 1 part vermicompost (compost worked by redwigglers and nightcrawlers). The only thing I get from KIS, is the “Coots” mix pack, which has all the ammenents in it. ~$15

 

[bobdagrowah]

1 part Spagnum, 1part aeration (pumice), 1 part vermicompost (compost worked by redwigglers and nightcrawlers). The only thing I get from KIS, is the “Coots” mix pack, which has all the ammenents in it. ~$15

O ok how long do I let it cook for

 

[Nugs1]

Hmm, the site says not found.

You getting the 403 forbidden too?

 

[jonsnow399]

You getting the 403 forbidden too?

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