Buds.on.a.budget
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Well I'm looking at (guessing) 40-60g
28g can sell for 200.. there's my QB kit right there
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28g can sell for 200.. there's my QB kit right there
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Viparspectra, meizhi, mars grams per watt?
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Buds.on.a.budget
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It does annoy me how much people put the vipars down lol, it's not a complete waste of cash, if you spend long enough on eBay you can get one for £40 ($55)
Then use it to grow up to 135g
That's putting it at 1gpw which people have done
Even an inexperienced grower like myself can get a couple oz from one light
But yea I agree that it's not one to stick with, use the blurple to create funds!
Then use it to grow up to 135g
That's putting it at 1gpw which people have done
Even an inexperienced grower like myself can get a couple oz from one light
But yea I agree that it's not one to stick with, use the blurple to create funds!
Roger A. Shrubber
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i've got an older meizhi light that doesn't have the two stage switch, it's on full blast all the time. draws 265 watts from the wall. its good for veg, will cover a 4x4 well. you can flower under it, but a 400 watt hps kicks its ass
Buds.on.a.budget
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Yea only reason I don't run hps is the heat :/ sitting about 85f with the vipars 
When people say gram per watt do they mean dried weight or wet?
I do not believe Viparspectra can do anything close to 1 gram per watt of dried buds. It is more like 0.15-0.2g per watt of dried weed.
If people mean wet buds then I would say it is a bit more than 1 gram per watt. My last grow with 3x 600W reflector series of Viparspectra in a 2.5x5 shed produced about 1-1.1 oz of dried weed per plant with 8 plants and scrogging. And that's the weight for all buds filled with seeds inside but no stems at all. One was a hermaphrodite and it fucked itself and every other female in my shed.
I do not believe Viparspectra can do anything close to 1 gram per watt of dried buds. It is more like 0.15-0.2g per watt of dried weed.
If people mean wet buds then I would say it is a bit more than 1 gram per watt. My last grow with 3x 600W reflector series of Viparspectra in a 2.5x5 shed produced about 1-1.1 oz of dried weed per plant with 8 plants and scrogging. And that's the weight for all buds filled with seeds inside but no stems at all. One was a hermaphrodite and it fucked itself and every other female in my shed.
Buds.on.a.budget
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I got 0.6gpw dry in the end up that's from a complete novice
AndromedaM31
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Lol this is one thing that I cant stand about this forum site. You say anything about any lighting system other than cob, or qbs (especially any other leds), and you get harrassed and told your lights are garbage and that you have no right growing unless you use qbs.
People need to get tf out of here with that shit.
You gonna try telling me next I have no right to drive on the road unless I'm driving a ferrari??
Not everyone can afford to drop crazy amounts on shit.
And no one asked for your opinion about qbs or anything else for that matter.
People need to get tf out of here with that shit.
You gonna try telling me next I have no right to drive on the road unless I'm driving a ferrari??
Not everyone can afford to drop crazy amounts on shit.
And no one asked for your opinion about qbs or anything else for that matter.
Zogs
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It's because we have all learned our lessons on VS/mars garbage and we don't like post like this that could potentially encourage a new grower to go with junk. Cobs aren't going to cost you much more or just grab an ipower 600w hps/mh for $100. I too was suckered by some A"hole" on youtube to buy Viparspectras. The only reason for this post is for you to try to justify you junk light. Don't do it.
As per G/watt, a VS300 is half the GPW as my 54watt cob.
AndromedaM31
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A a 300 is half the Gpw as your 54? Haha yeah ooookayyy.... first of all what are you basing this "gpw" on? There are a ridiculous amount of factors that play a role in how many grams per watt someone will yield, and that is the most discreditable way to compare two different lights.
Yeah obviously they're not the best lights in the world, but you guys look like complete fools when you try to play them off to be the absolute garbage that they are not. Do a little more research bud. Those insanely cheap off brands from China are what's complete garbage. Multiple people have done multiple different videos on the light specifications of all those lights in comparison to others.
Par output. Spectrum. Actual watts being drawn.
(AND NOT TO EVEN MENTION, the grows that you see turn out absolutely great, and comparable to your qbs and cobs.
Maybe the v series in specific isnt the greatest because the high blue spectrum, but there are many out there that arent bad lights, and are perfect for beginners, low budget growers, or someone who just doesnt feel like emptying their pockets.
Yeah obviously they're not the best lights in the world, but you guys look like complete fools when you try to play them off to be the absolute garbage that they are not. Do a little more research bud. Those insanely cheap off brands from China are what's complete garbage. Multiple people have done multiple different videos on the light specifications of all those lights in comparison to others.
Par output. Spectrum. Actual watts being drawn.
(AND NOT TO EVEN MENTION, the grows that you see turn out absolutely great, and comparable to your qbs and cobs.
Maybe the v series in specific isnt the greatest because the high blue spectrum, but there are many out there that arent bad lights, and are perfect for beginners, low budget growers, or someone who just doesnt feel like emptying their pockets.
70's natureboy
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2 zips per light is pretty impressive. The secret is out now. Everybody will be buying them.
gwheels
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That is the best way to look at the investment. The ROI is always there and at some point you end up coming ahead with more efficiency or better buds (less heat better light area spread etc).Well I'm looking at (guessing) 40-60g
28g can sell for 200.. there's my QB kit right there
I was always curious myself what people yield with cheap blurples. Mine gathers dust and one day i might use my growbox with the mars 48 as a seed starter.
blurples work. That mars 48 was my first light and i was able to get 78 grams with 2 autos (auto kush ryder) for an actual 100 watts. The growbox was short and these plants were as well so it worked. I was a complete newb so that is no indication of what could have happened.
Now i use quantum LED, timber vero cobs and CMH and have no idea what that mars can do...other than keep doors open and gather dust.
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AndromedaM31
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Zips?
Are zips ounces??
And yeah I'm using blurple right now, and having good results.
I mean, I could have a bit tighter nodes, and would like a bit more red in my spectrum, but other than that things are going good.
4 weeks in and the trichomes are thick, and buds are super sticky already.
Any leaf that touches a bud sticks right to it lol. Ww
Are zips ounces??
And yeah I'm using blurple right now, and having good results.
I mean, I could have a bit tighter nodes, and would like a bit more red in my spectrum, but other than that things are going good.
4 weeks in and the trichomes are thick, and buds are super sticky already.
Any leaf that touches a bud sticks right to it lol. Ww
Zogs
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It's pretty obvious too me. I grow in the same tent side by side with vipars and cobs. The results are always the same. 54w cob out produces a VS300. And just so you know , as you seem to be in utter disbelief, a 300w VS/mars ect is only 125 actual watts. It's just another way they try to sucker you. The only thing my vs300 is good for is adding much needed heat to my tent. My VS 900 sits on the shelf now. So if you need heat , I guess a Viparspectra is cheaper and better option over putting in a dedicated heater. But I would still rather an hps for a heat lamp over VS.
There needs to be a zero tolerance policy for Chinese crap leds.
AndromedaM31
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I know what the lights actually draw , all of the specifications of them.
And first of all, vipars, especially any v series are horrible for flowering because they have barely any red in their spectrum.
And using them as a heat light I have no idea what your talking about cause mine put off nearly no heat
And first of all, vipars, especially any v series are horrible for flowering because they have barely any red in their spectrum.
And using them as a heat light I have no idea what your talking about cause mine put off nearly no heat
Fullscan19
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I have gotten OVER 1g per watt using my vipar 300 and mars 300. Comes down to training, environmental conditions and nutrients as well as lighting.
I have also done another run with QBs and it was even better.
Don’t forget viparspectra sucks (see pic)
I have also done another run with QBs and it was even better.
Don’t forget viparspectra sucks (see pic)
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Buds.on.a.budget
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I went from a viper/meizhi set up to start off with then used the proceeds (roughly 2oz per plant) to upgrade to quantum boards.
Whilst the QB are a much better light without a shadow of a doubt, the vipars and meizhis were far from garbage, no huge yields but good compact sticky buds!
It's got me started with the funds I had at the time, got me some good quality smoke and paid for the QB set up, they are good lights (for their price) I picked up the 135w fixtures for just over £30 each and they made me a few grand.
In summary, definitely not garbage, but definitely not the best around. Good starting point if you are strapped for cash
Whilst the QB are a much better light without a shadow of a doubt, the vipars and meizhis were far from garbage, no huge yields but good compact sticky buds!
It's got me started with the funds I had at the time, got me some good quality smoke and paid for the QB set up, they are good lights (for their price) I picked up the 135w fixtures for just over £30 each and they made me a few grand.
In summary, definitely not garbage, but definitely not the best around. Good starting point if you are strapped for cash
Go go n chill
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I agree, 1gr per watt is reachable with the right strain
NanoGadget
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I am the biggest fanboy of HLG ever, i own 2 288s and a 96 Elite v2, and i would never go back to blurple after seeing what these boards can do. But I've never been one to slander blurples without cause. There were some decent blurple panels along the way, but for the most part they weren't the cheap budget brands. My California Light Works Solar Storm 440 was a pretty sweet light and served me well for a few years. Couple pics of my last run under it before i got my QBs..
