Greenpoint Seeds (Uncut)

thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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whitebb2727 said:
Maybe. I didn't realize about the rewards at greenpoint and checked out as a guest. I made an account and asked if they could give me credit for the order. Haven't answered yet. If they don't no biggie.

I may look at hemp depot. I need some other seeds as well.
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I did the same shit with the nugets. I ordered the r. kush and then noticed I had to sign up for credit. I'm going to ask about it when I email them tomorrow letting them know I shipped payment.
 
AbeFroman

AbeFroman

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Heisengrow said:
Yeah thcfarmer has alot of his old shit still for sale lol.even oregen elite has a few of them.i heard the polar bear crosses were hermie city.even gu said that I remember him saying it.
That' The cross that space genetix is using and people are saying they have hermies also
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I picked up a couple of those space genetix crosses a while back. I had no idea about them but they sounded good at the time and my wife is a huge NYC/Sour diesel so I said what the hell. I haven't tried them out though.
 
psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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Chunky Stool said:
It's starting to warm up here and I'll be upgrading to LED soon.
Does anyone run a mixed environment? I really like my 600w HPS rigs. Got two 600s with a 400w MH between them for full spectrum.
It sure would be nice to get the same amount of light for 1,000 watts or less...
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I'm switching from my HPS to CMH next run. I have seen great results with CMH. I will have equivalent to 4000 watts of HPS.

I have low headspace as well, 6 foot ceilings not including my reflectors.

I have had a hell of a time in the last 5 days getting my temps to a controllable and suitable degree, I have all 6 inch equipment and currently running 4000 watts of HPS. I did succeed in doing this on the 6th or 7th time I changed shit around.

Now I can drop my room temps with those 6 inch hoods and 4000 watts of light as low as 68 degrees if I choose to. That is the temperature not even 6 inches below the bulbs. Suprised the hell out of me and thank god I finally got it dialed in. Starting 12/12 today.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Watt for Watt CMH puts out alot of heat.I ran CMH and they are still hot as hell.Only thing gonna get you away from the heat is Cobbs or quantum boards.
If your pulling in cool air from outside to cool the hoods your HPS should be good to go.only issue i had was condensation on the hoses coming from outside cold air.
 
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nobighurry

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Chunky Stool said:
I tried grafting once and it didn't end well.
Having a plant count limit sucks when I run regular seeds. Can't take cuttings until I cull some males, so my clones will have to revert back to veg.
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Chunky: I take cuttings asap, number them & then root them under 12/12 they show sex about the same time as they have a good set of roots that way I don't loose time while my plants revert....
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Bakersfield said:
That is simply not always the case. There are some very slow growing and mutant strains that produce incredible smoke!
Many times the slow growing runt of the litter has other unique qualities that make them worthy candidates in a breeding program.

I have found a correlation between extremely vigorous plants and heaviest yielding pheno's are generally lower in potency than their slower growing sisters. This may just be my luck, but I've grown a few over the years and have found this to be the case.
These slow janky plants do not work for you and the parameters you've established for your breeding program. I understand, I'm not into slow inbred strains either.
There are many folks though, that consider Ogkb, Sour Bubble, and other slow strains to be excellent breeding material. To Each Their Own.
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Now here, I completely agree! Slow don't bother me much. Yield either!

I should have elaborated on what I said earlier. WEAK as in overly fussy or plants that have serious problems growing. I avoid these.
Smaller and slower plants are not expressing anything I don't like in a pheno hunt...

The results are only judged at the finish of each pheno....

I like my Platinum Banana Og just fine. It took a cpl of packs to get that "right" potency pheno too. 2 prominent pheno's and the winner is less so. 12 beans popped and only 3 winners and of those only 2 of the best. The best is a "holy shit" type of buzz and the other good one is nice but, the prominent pheno's are weak and stringy budding compared the the best as she has larger and far denser bud growth patterns...

I "feel" that some of the best "potency" strains have smaller budding, yet are very dense. This has exceptions too. Like I said above on the PB, and have others too.
I think you see more of the smaller denser potent strains, having line ties to the original Chem Dog somewhere.
Cookies strains are a good example. Chem in the OG base.....Not that Real Durban isn't potent, but the size and density part would go back to the chem in the OG.....

my 2 cents
 
jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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Heisengrow said:
Watt for Watt CMH puts out alot of heat.I ran CMH and they are still hot as hell.Only thing gonna get you away from the heat is Cobbs or quantum boards.
If your pulling in cool air from outside to cool the hoods your HPS should be good to go.only issue i had was condensation on the hoses coming from outside cold air.
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Watt for watt all the lights put out the same heat, but Hps put a lot of IR which heats the plants more.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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jonsnow399 said:
Watt for watt all the lights put out the same heat, but Hps put a lot of IR which heats the plants more.
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My air cooled 1000w hps ran cooler than 2 315w cmh non cooled.the yield was about the same but if you air cool cmh you run into issues.there meant to run hot to maintain the spectrum.
Replacing hps with cmh to achieve the same results to overcome a heat issue will result in disappointment IMO.this is why I switched to cobbs and will never look back.you don' get that radiant heat that burns and dries out plants at closer ranges.
My cmh would make all my tops stressed out unless I raised it way up than you would loose alot of light on the edges.yes I could have air cooled but would lost par through the glass and also lowering the temp and having to use a square reflector.
Since I switched to cob with low ceilings my tops all look healthy as shit and no more slow growth around the outside edge of the canopy.
My ac compressor comes on alot less with the cobs than it use to with HID.
I'll never go back to HPS and eventually will sell off my CMH stuff.

Gunslinger around 5 weeks.



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jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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Heisengrow said:
My air cooled 1000w hps ran cooler than 2 315w cmh non cooled.the yield was about the same but if you air cool cmh you run into issues.there meant to run hot to maintain the spectrum.
Replacing hps with cmh to achieve the same results to overcome a heat issue will result in disappointment IMO.this is why I switched to cobbs and will never look back.you don' get that radiant heat that burns and dries out plants at closer ranges.
My cmh would make all my tops stressed out unless I raised it way up than you would loose alot of light on the edges.yes I could have air cooled but would lost par through the glass and also lowering the temp and having to use a square reflector.
Since I switched to cob with low ceilings my tops all look healthy as shit and no more slow growth around the outside edge of the canopy.
My ac compressor comes on alot less with the cobs than it use to with HID.
I'll never go back to HPS and eventually will sell off my CMH stuff.

Gunslinger around 5 weeks.



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My mileage varies from yours, never had a problem with burning or drying at up close with cmh, you can hold your hand close to cmh and not feel heat like you do with hps. I run hps in winter, without it I'd have to provide another form of heat, wasting any efficiency gains. I run cmh in summer. I have some Qb's sitting around. I'm not that impressed with them, although when my hps and cmh need replacing, it will be with leds.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Yeah I can definitey feel heat coming off my cmh bulbs.you can see the heat stress on these eagle scouts from the cmh.it wasn' terrible but I noticed it.i had to run a separate T line from the ac to cool that area down cause the CMH always created a hot area.i could always feel it when I was around them.
Compared to a non cooled HPS they were way cooler but to say cmh run cool was not the case to me.
Maybe in an open room with alot of airflow they run cooler but in a corner that is boxed in they were to warm for my liking.

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