something very strange happened to my blue dream

donte cota

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i had put this blue dream into flower just 6 days ago and yesterday after its normal feeding it showed me a very clear n toxicity and then the top leaves started to get warped and curled even more i assume it was from the led being too close so i moved it as high as i can get it and tonned down the power then i put it to sleep, now this morning it doesn't seem better worse if anything the leaves have cracked in a few places and they are turning purple and slightly fading is this just n tox with a combo of too harsh light??? in ffof feeding fox farms bloom nutes cal mag ph to around 5.9. please help, i have pictures in really soon. Planning on flushing today unless told otheriwse
 
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GeneBanker

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Wow shes hurting. Have you checked your run off to see whats coming out? The leaves are showing signs of major stress all the way down.
 

donte cota

Member
Wow shes hurting. Have you checked your run off to see whats coming out? The leaves are showing signs of major stress all the way down.
yea i actually checked the runoff when i fed yesterday i cant remember exactly what it was at but it was at a good spot for me normally
 

donte cota

Member
Did you have a major heat spike or did you flip an switch n your LED and crank up the lighting? Never seen anything go downhill so quickly.
no heat spike that i know of and yea when i switched to flower i used a more powerful led but it seemed to do fine for the first few days i was starting to see the top leaves look a little light stressed around day 4 it had stretched alot those first days now its back under a less powerful light tonned down.
 

donte cota

Member
just flushed with 5 gals of regular water phed to 6.5 inital run out came in at 5.0!!! by the end of the 5 gals last runnout was up to about 5.9 hopefully that helps. Thanks for the replys.
 

Budzbuddha

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If this is an auto , you're screwed ....

Since you flushed ( which only breaks up salt ) , continued flushing will LEACH the soil of important amendments. Leave alone UNTIL pot goes dry ( that will be a while ) since LED grows do not make plants transpire as much.

Damaged , crispy or burnt leaves WILL not recover. Only the fans that may be droopy only will bounce back. DO NOT PULL ANY LEAVES WHILE SHE IS THIS STRESSED.

Just let her come around on her own.

The worst damage most growers do .... Is HOVER over your grows.
Wait a few days as pot dries out .....
If plant DRINKS ... Then it may come back.
If plant DOES NOT and pot remains just as heavy since watering .... Rest in peace.

Flushing can screw shit up too ... It smothers the roots ( drowning )
One simple " water flush " up to normal 20% runoff is enough to get salt problem corrected. But running multiple gallons over and over again , just strips the soil.

One good watering with 6.5 is enough. There is zero reason to " check " runoff.
Most good potting soil is PREBUFFERED ... Even if you use tap ...
Bag soil makers assume most gardeners are using TAP WATER for their gardens and shrubs so they are designed for the home gardener that way. So using RO or distilled is ridiculous... Since all bagged soil is gonna be used at home using the home owners OWN local water source.

Example : FFOF is buffered at 6.3 - my tap is 7.0 ... I don't do shit to it , I mix my Nutes by PPM requirements only , and water in plant. PH to 6.5 is so plant can have ALL available nutrients available.... Nothing else.

So ..... Patience.
If it looks to getting better , then you can correct what you did at next watering or feed.
If it does not ... It is done ... Start over. A stunted plant will not be worth the light , Nutes and time. Start another one now as plan b.
 

donte cota

Member
If this is an auto , you're screwed ....

Since you flushed ( which only breaks up salt ) , continued flushing will LEACH the soil of important amendments. Leave alone UNTIL pot goes dry ( that will be a while ) since LED grows do not make plants transpire as much.

Damaged , crispy or burnt leaves WILL not recover. Only the fans that may be droopy only will bounce back. DO NOT PULL ANY LEAVES WHILE SHE IS THIS STRESSED.

Just let her come around on her own.

The worst damage most growers do .... Is HOVER over your grows.
Wait a few days as pot dries out .....
If plant DRINKS ... Then it may come back.
If plant DOES NOT and pot remains just as heavy since watering .... Rest in peace.

Flushing can screw shit up too ... It smothers the roots ( drowning )
One simple " water flush " up to normal 20% runoff is enough to get salt problem corrected. But running multiple gallons over and over again , just strips the soil.

One good watering with 6.5 is enough. There is zero reason to " check " runoff.
Most good potting soil is PREBUFFERED ... Even if you use tap ...
Bag soil makers assume most gardeners are using TAP WATER for their gardens and shrubs so they are designed for the home gardener that way. So using RO or distilled is ridiculous... Since all bagged soil is gonna be used at home using the home owners OWN local water source.

Example : FFOF is buffered at 6.3 - my tap is 7.0 ... I don't do shit to it , I mix my Nutes by PPM requirements only , and water in plant. PH to 6.5 is so plant can have ALL available nutrients available.... Nothing else.

So ..... Patience.
If it looks to getting better , then you can correct what you did at next watering or feed.
If it does not ... It is done ... Start over. A stunted plant will not be worth the light , Nutes and time. Start another one now as plan b.
not an auto and i might also want to correct myself this is my one plant not in ffof this was in very old reused soil of unknown brand i do have 3 more currently doing amazing in veg just none are blue dream i took a few clones before flower so hopefully she comes back but if not its not the biggest deal in the world thanks for the advice :)
 

farmerfischer

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can you get some pics up of the plant in clean light? hard to tell but she looks like she may have nitrogen toxicity
 

farmerfischer

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as i said far above this started as a N. toxicity then progressed into what it is now
I don't like reading books.. I just look at the pics when I see a mile long post.. my bad.. any who ... posts some clean pics.. May help you get more advice from other members..
 
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