The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

schuylaar

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Just what I see on the cable news and read online. The Trump crowd is panicking for a reason, they are even going after the FBI. Comey fired, McCabe intimidated and tried to fire, Wray threatened to resign, Mueller ordered fired, FBI field agents attacked, Rosenstein under attack by the Nunes memo, the list goes on. These are the actions of people on the loosing side of history! They are desperate, attacking the FBI is insane, they are gonna run against Mueller in the midterms if they keep this bullshit up and they are going to be destroyed in the process. They are just waiting for the chance to jump ship, in the meantime the cocksuckers are on a kamikaze mission.

Trump ain't God, in fact he's going to Hell real soon, he can already feel the heat and smell the brimstone. These pricks are running around like chickens with their heads cut off for a reason. He's guilty as Hell and everybody knows it, he is very worried, it's reflected in his actions.
*mccabe intimidation success confirmed.
 
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Sour Wreck

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Your country is in worse shape than I figured, high treason is not a good sign. That is usually enough to wipe a party out or cause a civil war, very serious business. Not too many people expected these assholes to go this far, they must be hiding something catastrophic. What could possibly be worth this? I can't see them being on the map after november, this kind of stunt would have wiped them out in most western countries. Maybe if they figure they are fucked anyway, burn down the house on the way out. A real buch of patriots ya got there.

Watergate never went smooth either, Nixon fought like Hell, but the congress contained honorable men then. Today the GOP went from victim of the Trump russia scandal to participant and is in the same league as Trump, traitors all. After this bullshit there will be no going back, they jumped into the cauldron of festering shit and are now covered and reeking. Imagine the effect of future bombshell public releases as Mueller makes his criminal cases. Maybe it's a show for the base, all in for the Donald, cause they know there's a shocker coming that will get them off the hook, "we tried". Quite the performance though.

Shocking when you consider a counterintelligence investigation concerning national security is at stake. Literal treason by the President no less, the "high crimes" and misdemeanors part of impeachment.

Like I said, Game of Thrones ain't got nothing on this shit...
i don't think you understand. these idiots have lost their fucking minds.

it's like a cult....
 

greg nr

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i don't think you understand. these idiots have lost their fucking minds.

it's like a cult....
I like to think of it as more of a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy". Where have we heard of that phrase before? hmm.... ;)

Conspiracy fits it very well. The vast majority of the right wing pol's are motivated by mutual greed and thirst for power. Where else can a mid 60's fat white guy get a piece of hot college tail (male or female) and then have the public pay to hush it up when it goes bad?

There is also a subset on the right who are motivated by militant racism, militant religious beliefs, or just plain mental illness.

None of them (RW) entered public service with the slightest intention of serving the public.

And to those asshats who say both parties do it; FUCK YOU. They don't. You have a monopoly of despicabllity on the right. Sure, a few on the left live in the real world and have failings, but they don't go in with them as their primary goal.

There is no equivalence.
 

greg nr

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Well, I have to say I'm gobsmacked. Even I never thought trump would be this stupid. He may have just put the nail in his own political coffin on a charge of actual, chargeable, treason.

By announcing he would violate federal law and not impose sanctions on russia, he has closed the quid-pro-quo loop. Comey can prove that the russians offered help winning the lection in exchange for sanctions relief. He can prove the russians delivered that assistance. And now, he can prove trump provided sanctions relief.

For it to count as treason, we have to be under attack or at war with an enemy. That can also be proved, at least at the cyber and espionage levels.

But treason isn't something that muehler would ever be able to prosecute. He could lay it out for congress, who would do nothing about it of course (because too many of them are involved in the conspiracy). So it isn't a trump solution.

But a charge of treason would be a powerful thunderclap. But alas, even powerful storms pass. People forget. Some people anyway.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Two FBI agents walk up to Trump during the state of the Union and slap on a set of cuffs and place him under arrest on national TV. Mueller takes his place at the podium and explains the situation. Let's dance cocksuckers! Ya want a constitutional crises, ya got one.

For the above to happen, Paul and Mitch would need to have a "Come to Jesus" moment. Mueller would need to show up with a couple of sets of vice grips and squeeze their nuts until they cracked. This shit is clearly stranger than fiction already so why not...
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Well, I have to say I'm gobsmacked. Even I never thought trump would be this stupid. He may have just put the nail in his own political coffin on a charge of actual, chargeable, treason.

By announcing he would violate federal law and not impose sanctions on russia, he has closed the quid-pro-quo loop. Comey can prove that the russians offered help winning the lection in exchange for sanctions relief. He can prove the russians delivered that assistance. And now, he can prove trump provided sanctions relief.

For it to count as treason, we have to be under attack or at war with an enemy. That can also be proved, at least at the cyber and espionage levels.

But treason isn't something that muehler would ever be able to prosecute. He could lay it out for congress, who would do nothing about it of course (because too many of them are involved in the conspiracy). So it isn't a trump solution.

But a charge of treason would be a powerful thunderclap. But alas, even powerful storms pass. People forget. Some people anyway.
It's up to congress to see that that the law is enforced by the president, they are not up to the job. Nothing will happen here, the law will go unenforced, add to the mountain of malfeasance. Useful to Mueller though and this whole thing is so fucking crazy that I wouldn't take treason off the table, as they keep saying, ya can't make this shit up.
 
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greg nr

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Two FBI agents walk up to Trump during the state of the Union and slap on a set of cuffs and place him under arrest on national TV. Mueller takes his place at the podium and explains the situation. Let's dance cocksuckers! Ya want a constitutional crises, ya got one.
I still want some of what you are smoking.. ;)

A perp walk out the front doors of the wh will work for me.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If this shit keeps up I can see one Helluva summer coming up, a real 1968 moment. Dunno how a protest works when the mayor and cops are on the same side as the citizens. There will be some hot GOP town halls for sure, the word tratoir will be shouted more than once.

I wonder what the cold warrior vets think of all this shit, maybe some feel stabbed in the back. Not much point in watching the skies if the president is owned by the russians and is capable of any act of depravity to save his own skin. Treason at the top doesn't inspire those in the trenches, everybody knows this idiot would throw the lives of American service people under the bus to save his skin or increase his personal glory.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I still want some of what you are smoking.. ;)

A perp walk out the front doors of the wh will work for me.
These guys are violating norms and engaging in unprecedented behavior, all of the experts are shocked. Nobody would have believed any of this shit was possible a couple of years ago, fuck last week for that matter. Nothing should surprise us either way in this sordid affair, they threw away the rule book, so we're winging it now.

I'm smoking quality OG KUSH in large quantities and it feels good! Helps me cope with the news. Harvest is about 3 weeks away.bongsmilie No matter how much I smoke, I can't get as far from reality as these GOP Donald fans. Retirement is fun!

Ya know when Donald dies they are gonna stuff the fucker and mount him in the Smithsonian!

Trumpasoreass
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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It appears that the republicans are talking of purges and cleansing the FBI, the GOP is backing Trump and the russians all out. Understand that this shit is not just a domestic US issue, but involves an adversarial foreign power who directly interfered in your elections on the side of Trump and the GOP. Your allies and friends have treaties, defence pacts, share intelligence and have financial, as well as personal ties.

What about the russian sanctions that Trump is not enforcing?
How about obstruction of justice by trump and now the GOP?
What about the ongoing russian attacks #release the memo, among others?
What about all the russian contacts?
What about a thousand other things?

Mueller has a shit load of evidence, it might be time for some show and tell. One thing I figure you can count on, Mueller is watching and is a pro with guts and independence. If he is fired, he won't go quietly if he thinks Trump is a traitor, I figure he's taken whatever action he can, including secret indictments etc. He can make Trump wear out the pardon pen, but I figure he's got another plan, he's a patriot and the stakes are enormous. He's also got a lot of smart help, Trump does not, legally speaking, I figure Trump and those around him are fucked.

I don't know what game the republicans are playing here, but it won't end well for them and probably the country. They are not patriots, that's apparent, it must piss tens of millions of Americans off who are either independents or lean republican. Getting in bed with the Russians is too much for many, it's not something a lot of people are prepared to overlook. The base will shrink over this bullshit, independents will fall away and the legal, national security, defense and justice communities will aline with the democrats.

This ain't over, it's just getting going, I'm sure Mueller knows why these guys are taking a torch to the constitution and making fools of themselves.
 
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Sour Wreck

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It appears that the republicans are talking of purges and cleansing the FBI, the GOP is backing Trump and the russians all out. Understand that this shit is not just a domestic US issue but involves an adversarial foreign power who directly interfered in you elections on the side of Trump and the GOP.

What about the russian sanctions that Trump is not enforcing?
How about obstruction of justice by trump and now the GOP?
What about the ongoing russian attacks #release the memo, among others?
What about all the russian contacts?
What about a thousand other things?

Mueller has a shit load of evidence, it might be time for some show and tell. One thing I figure you can count on, Mueller is watching and is a pro with guts and independence. If he is fired, he won't go quietly if he thinks Trump is a traitor, I figure he's taken whatever action he can, including secret indictments etc. He can make Trump wear out the pardon pen, but I figure he's got another plan, he's a patriot and the stakes are enormous. He's also got a lot of smart help, Trump does not, legally speaking, I figure Trump and those around him are fucked. I don't know what game the republicans are playing here, but it won't end well for them and probably the country. They are no patriots, that's apparent, it must piss tens of millions of Americans off who are either independents or lean republican. Getting in bed with the Russians is too much for many, it's not something a lot of people are prepared to overlook. The base will shrink over this bullshit, independents will fall away and the legal, national security, defense and justice communities will aline with the democrats.

This ain't over, it's just getting going, I'm sure Mueller knows why these guys are taking a torch to the constitution and making fools of themselves.

the problem with you post is it is logical.

logic does not apply here. i know ZERO repubs that have changed their mind about him and i am surrounded by the morons where i live.

i think we might see violence in the streets before this year is up.

mueller has got to understand the country is falling apart while he investigates. these fuckers should be working 24/7 to finish this investigation.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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the problem with you post is it is logical.

logic does not apply here. i know ZERO repubs that have changed their mind about him and i am surrounded by the morons where i live.

i think we might see violence in the streets before this year is up.

mueller has got to understand the country is falling apart while he investigates. these fuckers should be working 24/7 to finish this investigation.
A sizable majority of people feel like you do about this situation, anybody with a brain who gives a fuck about their country is angry and concerned. Just watch TV, it's not just the journalists, pundits and other talking heads, you have plenty of company and strength in numbers and those numbers grow daily. Right now in a generic ballot the GOP is fucked, the house is gone by a large majority and the senate is at risk, there are 33 seats up for grabs in the senate this time and though most are democrat, ya can't gerrymander a whole fucking state. There's gonna be lot's of shit happening this spring and summer that should put a nail in the coffin of the fuckers. They are like zombies, the living dead, they can do some damage, but their long term prospects are bleak.

I figure they might be trying to retain control of the party after the midterms, what a crop of losers they will have crawling out of the primaries after they lose in 2018. If Trump is around then the GOP is done and so is the country, it will be a circus beyond belief, shit it already is!
 

greg nr

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Here is an interesting clip from lawrence odonnels show discussing impeachment. The first part is about nixon's impeachment vote in the house committee that drafted the articles. It points out that a majority of the republicans on the committee voted against approving them. That points out that nixon never would have been impeached if the republicans held the house......

The rest talks about how trump could still be impeached.

http://media.crooksandliars.com/2018/01/38220.mp4_high.mp4
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I guess that's what makes this stuff morbidly fascinating is the suspense, nobody knows how this shit is gonna turn out and everybody got skin in the game. I figure the big longer term picture is clear, but getting from here to there might be interesting and involve a bit of fighting. Right now it seems that Trump and the GOP are a solid block and holding all the cards, but already over 35 republican house members and nine committee chairs aren't running in 2018 and we're still 8 months out from the midterms. Most of these people are walking away because they know they are fucked in november, but a few are disgusted with the GOP.

If Trump is still president in November and the democrats win by a landslide, I hope he's stupid enough to try a power grab and go for dictator, it's his only chance to stay out of jail. Marshall law and the president won't accept the fake election results, anybody here think Trump would not try? He is stupid enough, but nobody would obey him, cause it would be a ticket to jail.

If you don't have an election landslide in november, well I guess natural selection works for countries, as well as individuals...
 
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greg nr

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Right now it seems that Trump and the GOP are a solid block and holding all the cards, but already over 35 republican house members and nine committee chairs aren't running in 2018 and we're still 8 months out from the midterms. Most of these people are walking away because they know they are fucked in november, but a few are disgusted with the GOP.
The palmer report has a different take on it. He is predicting that the GOP is caught up whole hog in russia dirty money and many of its officials are involved in the conspiracy to rig the election.

http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/quitting-republican-congress/7648/

Well, that's his take anyway. ;)
 
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