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[GroErr]

Day 50 in the breeding tent last night. Nothing but seeds on those little ladies The Blue Ripper and Fireballs are pretty well done, the Sand Storm can use a few days. I'll let them go until Friday or Saturday just to let the seeds mature a bit more.



Blue Ripper:



Fireballs:



Sand Storm:



Cheers

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

Any calyxs burst forth with pips yet?

I think I actually prefer seeing a fat swollen cola full of pips to a normal fat cola. The buds look more mature, fatter, all hairs receded, a plant at full life cycle.

 

[GroErr]

Any calyxs burst forth with pips yet?

I think I actually prefer seeing a fat swollen cola full of pips to a normal fat cola. The buds look more mature, fatter, all hairs receded, a plant at full life cycle.

Cheers, that Blue Ripper has a few, it's more than ready, just letting it go a bit.

I know what you mean, you don't see a lot of pics posted when they're open pollinated. At the end they're maybe not as "pretty", but to me there's nothing like a bunch of swollen pods ready to burst, so much potential

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

Agree totally man

 

[Gquebed]

Inspired by you... i have a white russian threesome going on in my tent. 2 girls and a boy...

So question:
Ima flip to 12/12 tonight and im wondering how long-ish will it be before the pollen sacs start a burstin and once they pollinate the girls how long before the seeds are ready for harvest?

Also, i wonder... i think i might like to just harvest the pollen and then just polinate a couple of buds on each plant. I think i have a pretty good idea of how to go about that, but not sure when to harvest the pollen...before it just starts flying all over the tent... dont want to risk pollinating the next round of 8 girls going in there as they are a differwnt strain...

 

[Underground Scientist]

Inspired by you... i have a white russian threesome going on in my tent. 2 girls and a boy...

So question:
Ima flip to 12/12 tonight and im wondering how long-ish will it be before the pollen sacs start a burstin and once they pollinate the girls how long before the seeds are ready for harvest?

Also, i wonder... i think i might like to just harvest the pollen and then just polinate a couple of buds on each plant. I think i have a pretty good idea of how to go about that, but not sure when to harvest the pollen...before it just starts flying all over the tent... dont want to risk pollinating the next round of 8 girls going in there as they are a differwnt strain...

In regard to the Also...I believe I learned here that misting with water will decontaminate pollen. Not 100%, but I believe through activation of the pollen and subsequent drying out and rendering it inactive. So after you collect pollen by shaking branches into ziplock bags as they start to drop pollen, you mist and wipe down, let dry, mist, wipe down let dry...should be good to go. Leave it vacant and mist for a few days... probably best.

 

[GroErr]

Inspired by you... i have a white russian threesome going on in my tent. 2 girls and a boy...

So question:
Ima flip to 12/12 tonight and im wondering how long-ish will it be before the pollen sacs start a burstin and once they pollinate the girls how long before the seeds are ready for harvest?

Also, i wonder... i think i might like to just harvest the pollen and then just polinate a couple of buds on each plant. I think i have a pretty good idea of how to go about that, but not sure when to harvest the pollen...before it just starts flying all over the tent... dont want to risk pollinating the next round of 8 girls going in there as they are a differwnt strain...

Cheers @Gquebed glad the posts are of some use Allowing for strain variations you have to start watching them around 10-14 days, some pollen pods will break open earlier than others. For full on ready to harvest the pollen and open pollinate the females you're around the 3 week mark +-3 days or so. You want ~4 weeks after they're pollinated to finish the plants and mature the seeds, usually not a problem unless you have strains that finish in <7 weeks which is unusual.

Open pollinating them the whole plant will be seeds, a lot of them. Like those little 1gal clones I just posted were up-potted from party cups and flipped. They'll produce ~200-300 seeds each. It's easier to open pollinate, not much planning, just flip them together and they'll do their thing for the most part. I do a bit of both depending on space but I have a dedicated tent for open pollination. Open pollination also makes a mess so some work cleaning between rounds.

Doing a couple of lower branches you'll end up with 60-80 seeds on average or more, got 120+ from one recently. More than enough to hunt through and see what's in there. A bit more work collecting the pollen, being careful not to let too much fly around. But you'll end up with seeds and some seedless smoke. Choices, choices...

 

[Gquebed]

Cheers @Gquebed glad the posts are of some use Allowing for strain variations you have to start watching them around 10-14 days, some pollen pods will break open earlier than others. For full on ready to harvest the pollen and open pollinate the females you're around the 3 week mark +-3 days or so. You want ~4 weeks after they're pollinated to finish the plants and mature the seeds, usually not a problem unless you have strains that finish in <7 weeks which is unusual.

Open pollinating them the whole plant will be seeds, a lot of them. Like those little 1gal clones I just posted were up-potted from party cups and flipped. They'll produce ~200-300 seeds each. It's easier to open pollinate, not much planning, just flip them together and they'll do their thing for the most part. I do a bit of both depending on space but I have a dedicated tent for open pollination. Open pollination also makes a mess so some work cleaning between rounds.

Doing a couple of lower branches you'll end up with 60-80 seeds on average or more, got 120+ from one recently. More than enough to hunt through and see what's in there. A bit more work collecting the pollen, being careful not to let too much fly around. But you'll end up with seeds and some seedless smoke. Choices, choices...

Excellent! .thanks for the tips...

If i open pollinate i will likely just use the buds for hash... after I've had to bust them up to get the seeds out. So I'll likely let them run full term...8 or 9 weeks or so. If there is no detriment to that... this is all about getting good seeds if i can.

However... depending on timing... I may have to just do a couple branches... it's dependent on when the next round of girls is ready for that space. I only have the one tent and a small space for propagation...

 

[Underground Scientist]

Excellent! .thanks for the tips...

If i open pollinate i will likely just use the buds for hash... after I've had to bust them up to get the seeds out. So I'll likely let them run full term...8 or 9 weeks or so. If there is no detriment to that... this is all about getting good seeds if i can.

However... depending on timing... I may have to just do a couple branches... it's dependent on when the next round of girls is ready for that space. I only have the one tent and a small space for propagation...

I want to collect some pollen, I just get geeked out over a pollen source in the same general room as my flower box. I'd love to cross favorite strains from different breeders.

 

[Gquebed]

I want to collect some pollen, I just get geeked out over a pollen source in the same general room as my flower box. I'd love to cross favorite strains from different breeders.

I'm going to swap my seedlings out of my propagation room into the big room and take the male and best female back into the propagation room before any hanky-panky goes on. Once they get it on I'll off the male and the girl will have enough room to finish out.

 

[SSGrower]

Day 50 in the breeding tent last night. Nothing but seeds on those little ladies The Blue Ripper and Fireballs are pretty well done, the Sand Storm can use a few days. I'll let them go until Friday or Saturday just to let the seeds mature a bit more.

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Blue Ripper:

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Fireballs:

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Sand Storm:

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Cheers

Left to right Blue Ripper, Sandstorm, Fireballs?

Looksmnice, thanks for posting.

 

[GroErr]

Left to right Blue Ripper, Sandstorm, Fireballs?

Looksmnice, thanks for posting.

Cheers and good call, exactly, I should have tagged them

Excellent! .thanks for the tips...

If i open pollinate i will likely just use the buds for hash... after I've had to bust them up to get the seeds out. So I'll likely let them run full term...8 or 9 weeks or so. If there is no detriment to that... this is all about getting good seeds if i can.

However... depending on timing... I may have to just do a couple branches... it's dependent on when the next round of girls is ready for that space. I only have the one tent and a small space for propagation...

Sounds like a plan, the last paragraph sums up your choice/decisions. I do one, the other, or both like right now I had 3x open pollinated plants because they were ready/available when I was flowering out the male. The one's in the flower room each had 1-2 branches hit with the same male. Going into this year with a potential of 11 crosses, some will be dropped, some will produce dank. I'll be happy if I end up with 4-5 crosses to work with out of what I have on the go.

 

[GroErr]

Pulled the small 3gal Blue Ripper and 5gal Skunk #1 at day 52. Have to stagger them as I'm leaving Sunday and have a ton of prep work to do. Both looking a little rough at the end, a few days over, could have pulled both at day 49/7 weeks. Both have mature looking seeds and lots of them. Loving this setup and quick finishes.

Skunk #1 P7, day 52:




Blue Ripper BX1/P3, day 52 (3rd pic is a lower showing some seeds):



Cheers

 

[GroErr]

The remaining plants in the flower room at day 52 & 45. These are all looking and smelling dank and frosty buggers These will all be pulled between Friday and Saturday as will the 3x 1gal clones in the breeding tent.

Center/front Dream Ripper, back-left Blue Harley, back-right Fireballs:


Dream Ripper:



Fireballs:



Blue Harley F1/P2 (another 7 week pheno):



Cheers

 

[Underground Scientist]

Excellent! .thanks for the tips...

If i open pollinate i will likely just use the buds for hash... after I've had to bust them up to get the seeds out. So I'll likely let them run full term...8 or 9 weeks or so. If there is no detriment to that... this is all about getting good seeds if i can.

However... depending on timing... I may have to just do a couple branches... it's dependent on when the next round of girls is ready for that space. I only have the one tent and a small space for propagation...

If I remember right there's a ratio of flour to pollen if you do the collection method for storage. Then a paint brush to dust on targets. Can't remember exactly the ratio, like 3/1 or 4/1 flour to pollen. Learned it on this thread.

 

[GroErr]

If I remember right there's a ratio of flour to pollen if you do the collection method for storage. Then a paint brush to dust on targets. Can't remember exactly the ratio, like 3/1 or 4/1 flour to pollen. Learned it on this thread.

I typically use the flour at about 4:1 flour to pollen ratio, I've seen posts that some use as high as 10:1. I use it for storage as I freeze it and the flour helps to pick up any moisture and stretch it a bit. I'll use it straight up too if the male produced a lot of it. The last batch I ran with my BR rks male produced so much I used it straight up on the plants in the flower room, then mixed it about 3:1 for the remaining and still have a ton of it.

Note: Be careful with pollen and flour when the weather and your house is really high in humidity. I had to scrap a pollen run a few months back as I didn't account for the RH in the house being so high, it got moisture in it and clumped up

 

[Gquebed]

I typically use the flour at about 4:1 flour to pollen ratio, I've seen posts that some use as high as 10:1. I use it for storage as I freeze it and the flour helps to pick up any moisture and stretch it a bit. I'll use it straight up too if the male produced a lot of it. The last batch I ran with my BR rks male produced so much I used it straight up on the plants in the flower room, then mixed it about 3:1 for the remaining and still have a ton of it.

Note: Be careful with pollen and flour when the weather and your house is really high in humidity. I had to scrap a pollen run a few months back as I didn't account for the RH in the house being so high, it got moisture in it and clumped up

Good thing you mentioned this. I know moisture is a bad deal for pollen but i didnt know that extended to high humidity... now i know to pick a low humidity day for harvesting the pollen. House rh fluctuates between 18 and 50%, depending on the wheather this time of year...

 

[GroErr]

Good thing you mentioned this. I know moisture is a bad deal for pollen but i didnt know that extended to high humidity... now i know to pick a low humidity day for harvesting the pollen. House rh fluctuates between 18 and 50%, depending on the wheather this time of year...

Yeah good to note, hadn't happened before simply because of timing. I collected that batch that ended up clumping in between warm/cold weather. Furnace nor AC were coming on, high RH outside, house was running around 60-65% at the time. Will be checking RH before collecting or pollinating so I can crank the AC, heat, or run a dehuey to reduce RH while collecting or pollinating.

 

[GreenHighlander]

Great looking shots in here. Not to mention some great info.
Cheers

 

[GroErr]

Great looking shots in here. Not to mention some great info.
Cheers

Hey thanks and thanks for popping in. Just winding things down to head south for a couple of weeks. For the first time in 4 years the only thing that'll be running by Sunday morning will be my cloner keeping my breeder stock going. The worst thing in prepping for a temporary shut down? Not being able to pop new seeds!!! I'm shaking like a crack head - lol