Sunnysideup
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I am putting up some of my pics...I got to get back to work before I am fired.
pitbulls
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"SICC"
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haha hell yea that lost one looks crazy, but its true, it depends on how you raise them, shit havnt you seen the Dog Whisperier, that dog Daddy is huge as fuc but would never attact anyone, its stupid when people want to just kill off pits, if people were more responsible with them, they wouldnt have this bad reputation, dont blame the dog blame the owner.....
mastakoosh
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look at this sweet doggie. never raised to fight and always treated good. its my best friends dog and his girl pulls his ears and tail and he never gets upset. he bit someone a few weeks ago and ripped dudes pants leg off and got him good.
what if he decides he had enough of the little girl being in his face. my dog accidentally jumped out of my car at his house one day and it almost became a disaster. if my dog gets loose i dont have to worry about my neighbors dogs gettin killed. pits can be good dogs if raised right but they are naturally aggressive, it is proven. all the wanna be thugs in my town want a physically aggressive dog, so often times it is not the dogs fault. i am not saying they are a bad breed but in the wrong hands they can be dangerous.
what if he decides he had enough of the little girl being in his face. my dog accidentally jumped out of my car at his house one day and it almost became a disaster. if my dog gets loose i dont have to worry about my neighbors dogs gettin killed. pits can be good dogs if raised right but they are naturally aggressive, it is proven. all the wanna be thugs in my town want a physically aggressive dog, so often times it is not the dogs fault. i am not saying they are a bad breed but in the wrong hands they can be dangerous.Attachments
Sunnysideup
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I can honestly say I have been around many dogs mostly abused and the truth is I have been bit by only a Chug and a mini doxen. The pit bulls tend to be easy to deal with. The problem is the wrong people have been breeding these animals and they have become a ghetto status symbol. I find this troubling because at this point the only way people see to get rid of that problem is to end the breed. I still do not believe it is the breeds fault.
look at this sweet doggie. never raised to fight and always treated good. its my best friends dog and his girl pulls his ears and tail and he never gets upset. he bit someone a few weeks ago and ripped dudes pants leg off and got him good.
mastakoosh
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very true they can be great dogs but in the wrong hands(which is often the case) they are gonna continue to get the bad rap. i say german shepards are shady. i got bit by one for no reason when i was young and i have seen them turn on people for seemingly no reason. also to us some dog attacks seem unprovoked but to the dogs it seems there was a reason to why they bit. even though i think shepards are shady, i love all animals lol. i guess dogs in the wrong hands are dangerous just like guns in the wrong hands are.
Sunnysideup
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I am opposed to breed specific laws but I would whole-heartedly support legislation that requires people to be licensed to breed dogs. If they do not intend to be a breeder than they should be required to get their dogs neutered/spayed. Often the problem dogs are a result of backyard breeding and then not caring what type of person acquires the dog. Unneutered dogs are more aggressive/protective and more likely to wander. Spaying the dogs will obviously reduce the population of unwanted dogs, will reduce aggressive behavior and the need to wander and has numerous health benefits like reducing cancer risk.
The target of legislation is and should be people not dogs. This discussion is one of those perfect examples of individuals unwilling to accept responsibility and blaming dogs. Go after the people not the dogs!
The target of legislation is and should be people not dogs. This discussion is one of those perfect examples of individuals unwilling to accept responsibility and blaming dogs. Go after the people not the dogs!
very true they can be great dogs but in the wrong hands(which is often the case) they are gonna continue to get the bad rap. i say german shepards are shady. i got bit by one for no reason when i was young and i have seen them turn on people for seemingly no reason. also to us some dog attacks seem unprovoked but to the dogs it seems there was a reason to why they bit. even though i think shepards are shady, i love all animals lol. i guess dogs in the wrong hands are dangerous just like guns in the wrong hands are.
stoverdro
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Wow this thread blew up since last time i read it.
well ive never been bit by a pitbull or any other dog at that matter. i never walk away from a dog either even if i think it will bite. ive been around all types of dogs and was very close to a couple pitbulls.actually people in my neighborhood had tons of pits and ive been around em all. pits can be good dogs unless put in the wrong hands that is common sense. in my opinion pits arnt loose cannons but they may be more prone to aggresive behavior due to many things which would include the way they were raised.
when people talk about pits and how they are dangerous they are simply saying for the most part they can do alot more damage. and you can never know when a dog is gonna flip to the badside no matter how you train it. any dog can jsut loose it at a time in their life but people are just afraid of pits due to the fact they can fucking kill someone. im on both sides and i think both sides are leaning to heavy on both sides. you can find anything on the internet cause there is always someone that holds the same belief as you. i once seen on the internet that their are fucking aliens...dont mean its true. so all this looking up information on both sides aint gonna do shit....there is plenty of information to be found and no one can corretly determine the answer at all cause there are plenty of stories on both sides....it jsut happens that there is more stories about pits cause once they flip they dont stop....other dogs can be stopped more easily and usually dont do as much damage so they dont reach the press.....think what you will but no one wille ver have enough evidence to pursuade the other sides minds!
well ive never been bit by a pitbull or any other dog at that matter. i never walk away from a dog either even if i think it will bite. ive been around all types of dogs and was very close to a couple pitbulls.actually people in my neighborhood had tons of pits and ive been around em all. pits can be good dogs unless put in the wrong hands that is common sense. in my opinion pits arnt loose cannons but they may be more prone to aggresive behavior due to many things which would include the way they were raised.
when people talk about pits and how they are dangerous they are simply saying for the most part they can do alot more damage. and you can never know when a dog is gonna flip to the badside no matter how you train it. any dog can jsut loose it at a time in their life but people are just afraid of pits due to the fact they can fucking kill someone. im on both sides and i think both sides are leaning to heavy on both sides. you can find anything on the internet cause there is always someone that holds the same belief as you. i once seen on the internet that their are fucking aliens...dont mean its true. so all this looking up information on both sides aint gonna do shit....there is plenty of information to be found and no one can corretly determine the answer at all cause there are plenty of stories on both sides....it jsut happens that there is more stories about pits cause once they flip they dont stop....other dogs can be stopped more easily and usually dont do as much damage so they dont reach the press.....think what you will but no one wille ver have enough evidence to pursuade the other sides minds!
Biggravy22
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look at this sweet doggie. never raised to fight and always treated good. its my best friends dog and his girl pulls his ears and tail and he never gets upset. he bit someone a few weeks ago and ripped dudes pants leg off and got him good.
Wrong. It has not been proven they are naturally aggressive. Humans have spent YEARS breeding human aggressive qualities out of the animal. In the wrong hands anything can be dangerous. Cars, Weapons, and even people. They're just powerful dogs and people unfortunately are afraid of anything that isn't docile looking in appearance.
Biggravy22
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Variability in behaviour has a wider range within a breed than between breeds. Within the discipline of psychobiology and animal behaviour there is no data from empirically supported studies, published in refereed scientific literature, to support the idea that one breed of dog is `vicious.' The adult behaviour of a domestic dog is determined overwhelmingly by its experiential history, environmental management and training."
Dr. Mary Lee Nitschke, Ph.D.
Dr. Mary Lee Nitschke, Ph.D.
Biggravy22
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"It is more common than not to hear 'pit bulls' referred to as "dog-aggressive". In fact, they aren't. Some may become fearful around other dogs due to a lack of proper socialization. But this happens with all breeds of dogs, not just 'pit bulls'. Unfortunately, this lack of socialization is frequently encouraged by those who fancy themselves 'pit bull' experts. "
Biggravy22
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A properly socialized pitbull shouldn't attack anything. Most animals attack out of fear.
Not just pitbulls.
Not just pitbulls.
Biggravy22
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In fact, of the last 400 or so dog bite injury-related human fatalities in the U.S., about 320 (or 80%) are attributed to non-'pit bull' dogs. The 'pit bulls' that have killed people (typically someone in the dog's home) make up just 0.00002% or less of the estimated 'pit bull' population. Clearly, not only are 99.99998% (or more) of 'pit bulls' NOT "killers", but 'pit bulls' don't even cause the majority of dog bite injury-related human fatalities!
Seamaiden
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Oh, come on, man. That's like saying a border collie wasn't bred to herd. A Doberman wasn't bred as a police dog, a Rottie wasn't bred to work, and a Rhodesian Ridgeback wasn't bred to track lions. These dog breeds have all been selected for particular traits. It's why Great Danes think they're lap dogs. It's why Chihuahuas actually taste good (I'm kidding about that one, though I'm willing to give EnChihuahua a try), and why any heeler breed is damned good at heeling. How come bloodhounds have such a sensitive nose, eh?
I've owned and handled the following breeds:
Rottweiler
Shetland sheepdog
Australian sheepdog
Border collie
Labrador retreiver
Irish setter (STUPIDEST DOG ON EARTH!)
Great Dane
Pomeranian
Chihuahua
Bulldog, English
Bull terrier, English (the ones the that ugly nose)
American Pit bull terrier
American Staffordshire terrier
German Shepherd
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Beagle
And more mutts than I can count.
Anyone care to guess which dogs were toughest to work with? A hint: Any smart animal is going to be more difficult to work with, especially if it has a will of its own (and many of them do).
That was special, just for the rattlesnake handler, wasn't it?
Not "dog" aggressive, animal aggressive. All pit breeds were initially bred to help butchers in handling large animals, such as cattle. They have also been bred for "moxie", never-give-upedness. Now, how many of you who insist pits aren't dangerous have handled cattle, in particular uncut bulls? Ever been in the same enclosure with such an animal? Horses DO NOT count, they aren't even close in temperament. Rottweilers, as a breed, go back to Roman times. They were bred to work and guard. And they're quite good at that.
The other issue, the real issue in my book, with specific regard to bull and pit breeds, is that getting a little "nip" from one of them is like being "tasted" by a great white shark. How often do cocker spaniels lock onto someone, requiring force such as crowbars or a shot to the head to release them? I have yet to find such an instance.
Biggravy22
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Moose has gotten in two altercation. Both un-neutered . One was A german shepard, the other a husky. Both pissed at him, and both shit in his vicinity. Even then his tail wagged like crazy...He almost seemed confused. They both jumped at him, and that's when he snapped. Nothing happened with the husky, but the german shepard got him good on the neck and bit his ear.
What's funny is that through BSL legislation they're forced to be muzzled, but they're attacked constantly. Even though he was confronted he never looked to take the other dog out.
What's funny is that through BSL legislation they're forced to be muzzled, but they're attacked constantly. Even though he was confronted he never looked to take the other dog out.
Biggravy22
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Oh, come on, man. That's like saying a border collie wasn't bred to herd. A Doberman wasn't bred as a police dog, a Rottie wasn't bred to work, and a Rhodesian Ridgeback wasn't bred to track lions. These dog breeds have all been selected for particular traits. It's why Great Danes think they're lap dogs. It's why Chihuahuas actually taste good (I'm kidding about that one, though I'm willing to give EnChihuahua a try), and why any heeler breed is damned good at heeling. How come bloodhounds have such a sensitive nose, eh?
I've owned and handled the following breeds:
Rottweiler
Shetland sheepdog
Australian sheepdog
Border collie
Labrador retreiver
Irish setter (STUPIDEST DOG ON EARTH!)
Great Dane
Pomeranian
Chihuahua
Bulldog, English
Bull terrier, English (the ones the that ugly nose)
American Pit bull terrier
American Staffordshire terrier
German Shepherd
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Beagle
And more mutts than I can count.
Anyone care to guess which dogs were toughest to work with? A hint: Any smart animal is going to be more difficult to work with, especially if it has a will of its own (and many of them do).
That was special, just for the rattlesnake handler, wasn't it?
Not "dog" aggressive, animal aggressive. All pit breeds were initially bred to help butchers in handling large animals, such as cattle. They have also been bred for "moxie", never-give-upedness. Now, how many of you who insist pits aren't dangerous have handled cattle, in particular uncut bulls? Ever been in the same enclosure with such an animal? Horses DO NOT count, they aren't even close in temperament. Rottweilers, as a breed, go back to Roman times. They were bred to work and guard. And they're quite good at that.
The other issue, the real issue in my book, with specific regard to bull and pit breeds, is that getting a little "nip" from one of them is like being "tasted" by a great white shark. How often do cocker spaniels lock onto someone, requiring force such as crowbars or a shot to the head to release them? I have yet to find such an instance.
what a crock of bullshit. Im sorry...
Biggravy22
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Im well aware of that. It has more to do with tail position than anything.
While the two dogs who confronted moose had very upright stiff tails. His was relaxed and wagging with excitement. He clearly wanted to play. Even the other dogs owners were telling there animals to relax, But they had already gotten that male scent and were ready to compete.
Seamaiden
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So, what I see here is a situation where the dog owners did not take control. Females will do the same thing.
A dog's body English is comprised of far more than tail position.