Won't use bodhi again worst Hermies in 10 Bodhi

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max420thc

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Bubby'sndalab said:
Bro-have you read the whole thread-i remember you from dlopez's grow journal so i respect your opinion-jus bout everybody told him to tell his experience & chalk it up as bad & move on to more seeds
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Damn dude, that's been a long time ago and about the last time I came around this childish stuff,
I can see why I left this site for so long .
I hope everything has been doing good for you brother ,
 
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max420thc

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since1991 said:
In my main production rooms I NEVER run an outside clone or seed pack from anyone or anywhere on the street until Ive ran them at least once in my test/quarantine room (smallish tent with one lamp). I learned long ago the hard way. I treat everything new...seed or clone plant...like its a full blown hermie/male or a disease and pest ridden clone. Whether it is or not. And it gets ran in a seperate test room at least once for observation. A p.m. or bug infested cut or hermie seed plant would really fuk up my stable of keepers my patients rely on. And that's not happening. If your running lots of different seed packs and/or clones from the outside world..I highly suggest this method if you want a continuous supply of clean and seed free buds.
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I live in Michigan now brother , we should get together sometime
 
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Jay7t5 said:
Good idea bro but I don't have the Room so From now on no matter who its From I won't commit to much Room with it and Will Keep a closer eye on it From now on,I doubt it will happen any time soon as I've never had hermies in my Life so I know this is a rarity especially with credible breeder's but not impossible as I've learned lol
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Hermies are not as uncommon as you might think with all the femanized seed breeders running around and the lazy growers who use them instead of doing the work to identify females and males .
It's actually very common
 
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Jay7t5 said:
That's not what you said, you said everyone here has tried telling me to move on, try more seeds, that's not the case,a few have said that the rest are bitches and just being assholes that's a more accurate description of what's gone on here
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It would probably be the same if someone bought from seeds from one of my buddies who is a
elkamino said:
Lol
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I know my friend I'm kind of a dick with my bluntness but it seems the best seed breeders I know of will not breed femanized seeds, it's not because it's hard to do but they want the consumer to have a very good stable product that there are no problems with.
Subcool comes to mind and brothers Grimm is another one .
Brothers Grimm concurred with those opinions and Mr soul is alot smarter man than I am, ( nuclear engineer )
 
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since1991

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Your gonna get hermaphrodite leaning plants in all the seed companys wares. Just the way it is. Feminized or regular. Cannabis is a dioecious annual. Some of the most hermie prone plants I ever ran was Subcools Agent Orange. It can be bred out to a minimum but they dont. Reason why? None of the breeders these days take the time and resources (lots of plants - in the thousands- and huge facilities) to breed stable homogenous true breeding hybrids. Most if not all are basically smashing one plants flowers with pollen from a male they have had success in the past with. A little bit of back crossing...throw it out to a few testers for a report. If its a green light..hype it up onntje forums and magazines. Then sell it to the public for ridiculous prices. This is not how you breed true and unique cultivars...at all. You all that play the seed chasing game have the same chances and lottery ticket by saving your money and making your own seed. If you have the room and equipment for it.
 
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since1991 said:
Your gonna get hermaphrodite leaning plants in all the seed companys wares. Just the way it is. Feminized or regular. Cannabis is a dioecious annual. Some of the most hermie prone plants I ever ran was Subcools Agent Orange. It can be bred out to a minimum but they dont. Reason why? None of the breeders these days take the time and resources (lots of plants - in the thousands- and huge facilities) to breed stable homogenous true breeding hybrids. Most if not all are basically smashing one plants flowers with pollen from a male they have had success in the past with. A little bit of back crossing...throw it out to a few testers for a report. If its a green light..hype it up onntje forums and magazines. Then sell it to the public for ridiculous prices. This is not how you breed true and unique cultivars...at all. You all that play the seed chasing game have the same chances and lottery ticket by saving your money and making your own seed. If you have the room and equipment for it.
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I've had some "interesting" experiences with seeds & clones.
Two of my favorites are most likely not what I was told they were -- but I still like them. I lost one because of a misunderstanding between me & a partner. It was supposed to be Afgooey but was more of a chem strain that smelled exactly like dank basement when it finished. I thought it was a mold/mildew problem when I first smelled it, but never saw any on my indoor crops.
The other is black willie -- that never threw purple leaves, even when it was cold at night. I still run those beans...
 
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since1991 said:
Your gonna get hermaphrodite leaning plants in all the seed companys wares. Just the way it is. Feminized or regular. Cannabis is a dioecious annual. Some of the most hermie prone plants I ever ran was Subcools Agent Orange. It can be bred out to a minimum but they dont. Reason why? None of the breeders these days take the time and resources (lots of plants - in the thousands- and huge facilities) to breed stable homogenous true breeding hybrids.if not all are basically smashing one plants flowers with pollen from a male they have had success in the past with. A little bit of back crossing...throw it out to a few testers for a report. If its a green light..hype it up onntje forums and magazines. Then sell it to the public for ridiculous prices. This is not how you breed true and unique cultivars...at all. You all that play the seed chasing game have the same chances and lottery ticket by saving your money and making your own seed. If you have the room and equipment for it.
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That's kinda the point here. No one ever disputed those facts. There are seasoned growers, testers, and even new growers in the Bodhi thread that share their honest experience. The good, bad, mediocre and even the dreaded herms that show up from time to time. They post their experience (good or bad) myself included and move on.

However, that is NOT what happened here in this thread. The title of the thread alone is very misleading.
Here is a grower that pops up out of no where after a failed "breeding" attempt (as can be seen in his posting history) and claims his SSDD hermed on him. Now, its not out of the realm of possibility but it is very slim considering the hundreds and hundreds of detailed grow reports out there. There is no evidence whatsoever that the OPs claims hold water. NONE.
And as far as making your own seeds vs playing the lottery. The time and resources needed to produce and stabilize a plant would cost far more than pheno hunting seeds and finding solid keepers...especially when I can get 3 pk of Bodhi for $147. That isn't a lottery. Not even close. I'll continue to hunt seeds and F2 the winners...hopefully with some success.
 
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thenotsoesoteric

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max420thc said:
Why you gotta break this guy's balls for?
Yeah he's not a super star like everyone else on here,
Yeah he missed a pollen sack the beaned out his plant.
So have some other very experienced growers including me.
You don't have to have it happen more than one time and you become more vigalant , like paranoid freaked out about it.
It could be caused by anything , it doesn't mean bodi is a bad breeder, doesn't mean 99 percent of people who grow those beans will not have great results.
He just had a bad experience, just hash it up, clean it up and suck it up.
As far as running around in here calling folks bad growers try and help them become better if you can.
If you have ten people come into a room all of them telling a guy something different then start a discussion, hopefully logically, he can view the debate, decide what makes more sense then go from there.
If the guy shares his bad experience and ten people say hey I had good results , it either means he just had some bad luck or his conditions may have something wrong.
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Have you read any of OP's responses to people trying to help him out? Look around the forum, I'm always trying to help people out and gain experience but not when they're an asshole to people trying to help them or offer advice.

That is why I'm busting this dude's balls.
 
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Jay7t5 said:
WELL SAID!! It's Like a schoolyard here bro, I've never met Such a moany bunch of bastard's and know it alls in my Life oh tell a lie my ex but she had reason to complain, these fuckers are still bitching Just because I had a Hermie with Bodhi but they refuse to believe it because I don't do journals it's pathetic,if i said i had a Hermie with GHS or Barney's people would believe that journal or no journal And that's where the sheep mentality comes into it,if MR X says he's a lier and because Mr X has been a well known member of RIU it really is school yard fuckery at its best,I mean really lol
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See, max420thc, it's this kind of shit.

Ain't nobody pissing and moaning but rather calling this dude out with his bullshit. Dude is an asshole and it shouldn't be hard to ascertain.
 
since1991

since1991

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Tangerine_ said:
That's kinda the point here. No one ever disputed those facts. There are seasoned growers, testers, and even new growers in the Bodhi thread that share their honest experience. The good, bad, mediocre and even the dreaded herms that show up from time to time. They post their experience (good or bad) myself included and move on.

However, that is NOT what happened here in this thread. The title of the thread alone is very misleading.
Here is a grower that pops up out of no where after a failed "breeding" attempt (as can be seen in his posting history) and claims his SSDD hermed on him. Now, its not out of the realm of possibility but it is very slim considering the hundreds and hundreds of detailed grow reports out there. There is no evidence whatsoever that the OPs claims hold water. NONE.
And as far as making your own seeds vs playing the lottery. The time and resources needed to produce and stabilize a plant would cost far more than pheno hunting seeds and finding solid keepers...especially when I can get 3 pk of Bodhi for $147. That isn't a lottery. Not even close. I'll continue to hunt seeds and F2 the winners...hopefully with some success.
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listen up Bodhi fan boy (god I swear you all are the same - ive seen your kind. Cali Connection/ Swerve had a bunch of worshippers before he went to the gutter years ago. Same with Subcool..same witj ALOT.) I was guilty long time ago too. And you will have no quarrel with me. And yes..even with your sacred and beloved Bodhi seeds....you will get hermaphrodite (intersexed) plants just like the rest. Matter of fact..The last Bodhi stuff I ran was intersexed. Not full blown but male stamens more than I accept in late flower. Sky Lotus V2. A gifted cut. Ran it twice in test room. She was quickly culled. Even ran a big Sky Lotus outside season before last. Decent smoke but popped a little too many male parts in Sept for me.
 
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max420thc

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thenotsoesoteric said:
See, max420thc, it's this kind of shit.

Ain't nobody pissing and moaning but rather calling this dude out with his bullshit. Dude is an asshole and it shouldn't be hard to ascertain.
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Shit dude I am a ass hole,
He is a newer grower, he's not as experienced as many of us . We should not try to discourage him , we have all had our accidental breeding projects I am guilty also, remember when you first started? Remember all the misinformation floating around this site that was screwing you up before you even get started?
It seems to me like people who support bodi or like his gear are busting this guy as his fault because he had a negative experience . Just let him know years it's just one of those things that happened .
No need to call him a bad grower , try and help him if he will listen if not he can make more mistakes and learn from that.
 
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max420thc

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thenotsoesoteric said:
Have you read any of OP's responses to people trying to help him out? Look around the forum, I'm always trying to help people out and gain experience but not when they're an asshole to people trying to help them or offer advice.

That is why I'm busting this dude's balls.
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I did and I also seen some attacks against Jay ,
I have my haters too.
He is listening he is just posting pictures of his beans ( I hope he doesn't plant them but throws them away )
Remember how frustrated when you first started growing when bad shit happens?
 
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thenotsoesoteric

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max420thc said:
Shit dude I am a ass hole,
He is a newer grower, he's not as experienced as many of us . We should not try to discourage him , we have all had our accidental breeding projects I am guilty also, remember when you first started? Remember all the misinformation floating around this site that was screwing you up before you even get started?
It seems to me like people who support bodi or like his gear are busting this guy as his fault because he had a negative experience . Just let him know years it's just one of those things that happened .
No need to call him a bad grower , try and help him if he will listen if not he can make more mistakes and learn from that.
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I don't think you're understanding me. It is his attitude, I am giving him shit for his shitty attitude. I just came to the thread to see what was up but then when I seen him reply shitty to some stand up long time members I decided to bust his balls and I stand by that decision. Like I said I do my fair share of encouraging on this site and in real life but when people are cunts I respond as such. Had OP conducted himself with civility then I wouldn't post shitty memes and call him a piece of crap. You do you and I'll do me. Cheers
 
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