What the heck is going on with pot prices?

max420thc

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May I ask - Is there a hood brand you bought or did you make them?

May I ask what system you use for extraction? Looks really professional.
I used to put Halon systems in restaurants . They normally come pre charged in the hood already.
Lots of different manufactures of this equipment but I would think you could find one used cheap someplace from closed restaurant . You install it with channel slot and all thread rod over the area you are working then run black iron duct to a roof Jack and through the roof and hook up power to it and a alarm if you want
 

757growin

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You get taxed by canopy size , doesn't matter how many plants, each county is different , each county has its own rules though , soon to be a 150 dollar per lb tax by the state of California.
There are a lot of big boys here all of them do things different . Some grow raised beds, some fabric containers , MOST I have seen grow in 100 gallon fabric pots, a general rule of thumb for production is 4 lbs per 100 gallons of dirt.
400 gallon pots can produce around 16 lbs each.
BUT you have to have a extended veg time that many , most growers do not have the time nor space to have that many plants to veg for that long a period.
So MOST of the big boys do not grow in 400 gallon containers
Of course we are talking about outdoor growers indoor and light dep are different.
So those beautiful slabs of bho aren't legal? Just wondering cause you said all legal.
 

757growin

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You get taxed by canopy size , doesn't matter how many plants, each county is different , each county has its own rules though , soon to be a 150 dollar per lb tax by the state of California.
There are a lot of big boys here all of them do things different . Some grow raised beds, some fabric containers , MOST I have seen grow in 100 gallon fabric pots, a general rule of thumb for production is 4 lbs per 100 gallons of dirt.
400 gallon pots can produce around 16 lbs each.
BUT you have to have a extended veg time that many , most growers do not have the time nor space to have that many plants to veg for that long a period.
So MOST of the big boys do not grow in 400 gallon containers
Of course we are talking about outdoor growers indoor and light dep are different.
You got acres to put 100 gal pots but not enough space to veg? And why are you so busy in feb/mar you can't get plants started?
 

SchmoeJoe

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did you forget who you voted for? and who he appointed as his AG?

they just said they are coming for your boss's pocketbook, trimmer boi.

gotta pay for those private jet tax breaks somehow ya know.
Sessions can fuck off. The majority of the country wants pot legal and the majority of the states have some form legalization. If they try to do anything you'll see a huge step forward in progress as far as the people making dam sure their voice is heard in terms of policy. It's already starting. Between states continuing to work toward curbing carbon emmisions without federal mandates to the first state to legalize through state legislature, right after sessions rescinded the Cole memo, people are starting to do what they think is necessary on their own.
 
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max420thc

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Sessions can fuck off. The majority of the country wants pot legal and the majority of the states have some form legalization. If they try to do anything you'll see a huge step forward in progress as far as the people making dam sure their voice is heard in terms of policy. It's ready starting. Between states continuing to work toward curbing carbon emmisions without federal mandates to the first state to legalize through state legislature people are starting to do what they think is necessary on their own.
I agree Joe
 

max420thc

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You got acres to put 100 gal pots but not enough space to veg? And why are you so busy in feb/mar you can't get plants started?
How do you veg outside when it's cold? For four months or so?
I am talking to my client about building hoop houses but still to get 16 lb plants they need extended periods of veg inside hoops houses that are heated before spring , normal veg time is around 6 to 8 weeks to produce 4 lb plants.
You would have to start vegging them in December or so in order to have them large enough to get to 16 lbs for the season ,
2000 plants vegged in 25 gallon containers so they do not get root bound takes substantial time and space.
If they want more production they just put another plant into the ground
 

UncleBuck

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Sessions can fuck off. The majority of the country wants pot legal and the majority of the states have some form legalization. If they try to do anything you'll see a huge step forward in progress as far as the people making dam sure their voice is heard in terms of policy. It's ready starting. Between states continuing to work toward curbing carbon emmisions without federal mandates to the first state to legalize through state legislature people are starting to do what they think is necessary on their own.
yep, the revolution is gonna hit the streets after they bust a few pot growers alright. just keep telling yourself that.
 

max420thc

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Bho, legal. I can't find that legal statute. Can you guide me or point me in the right direction?
It's all over Michigan all over Colorado all sold in dispensary.
I do not concern myself with each locals laws, they are all different . No way I could know all the rules and laws for all the areas of the US.
All I can tell you is the man has licenses and applications for the new licebses. To include extract and transportation licenses , I seen the bill for it. I can not tell you anymore about that. It's outside my area .
 

UncleBuck

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It's all over Michigan all over Colorado all sold in dispensary.
I do not concern myself with each locals laws, they are all different . No way I could know all the rules and laws for all the areas of the US.
All I can tell you is the man has licenses and applications for the new licebses. To include extract and transportation licenses , I seen the bill for it. I can not tell you anymore about that. It's outside my area .
yep, way out of the pay grade of a $12/hr trimmer.
 

max420thc

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The picture did not load . But there has been a fire in this area. In order to veg 2000 plants to 4 months you would have to have a good size facility to veg them that long. Some guys in mendo do it. In trinitty himbolt lake county's . Whole mountainsides of raised bed containers at around 1oo to 150 gallons each cut out of the side of mountains in trinitty.
They stated vegging in heated hoop houses around February and go into the ground around the end of April first of May. Bud cycle in the region starts around the first of August .
You would need acres of hoops houses to veg that many plants 4 months .
 

max420thc

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I heard alot of Trinity county growers got shut down because they did not pay their tax's on the property or get license to grow . They are mostly mong growers in that area. Super nice people that work their ass's off . What a shame .
In Cali you have to pay to play.
They do not care what you do almost as long as you pay up.
Then the fire.
Prices will go back up because supply's always dry up by years end and with the fire and many growers getting shut down the supply will run out fast.
 

max420thc

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yep, the revolution is gonna hit the streets after they bust a few pot growers alright. just keep telling yourself that.
They are busting pot growers for sale product out of the state. Colorado just popped a shit load of dispensarys .
They are also after the Mexican cartels hot and heavy . You are a dick for sure but kind of right . So long as you do not break federal laws they will not come after you at this time.
And I think all of the shit by sessions is to get Cali to comply with federal law . Dum shit Jerry brown keeps poking the bear in the eye he is going to get bit.
He just pardoned a bunch of illegal aliens. Yeah he is missing on a fire with gasoline as he is giving Trump a excuse to cut funding to this state and will mess with Brown at any chance.
So long as the state decides it's own laws the ninth and tenth amendment protects the state.
I want you all to think of something though. I understand why legal growers at this time do not like illegal ones as the illegal growers do not have to play by the same rules everyone else does.
If there never any illegal growers would pot have ever become legal in the first place? How many went to prison growing illegally so you would have the right to grow legally ?
 

UncleBuck

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They are busting pot growers for sale product out of the state. Colorado just popped a shit load of dispensarys .
They are also after the Mexican cartels hot and heavy . You are a dick for sure but kind of right . So long as you do not break federal laws they will not come after you at this time.
And I think all of the shit by sessions is to get Cali to comply with federal law . Dum shit Jerry brown keeps poking the bear in the eye he is going to get bit.
He just pardoned a bunch of illegal aliens. Yeah he is missing on a fire with gasoline as he is giving Trump a excuse to cut funding to this state and will mess with Brown at any chance.
So long as the state decides it's own laws the ninth and tenth amendment protects the state.
I want you all to think of something though. I understand why legal growers at this time do not like illegal ones as the illegal growers do not have to play by the same rules everyone else does.
If there never any illegal growers would pot have ever become legal in the first place? How many went to prison growing illegally so you would have the right to grow legally ?
grower of federally illegal schedule 1 controlled substance complains of "illegal aliens".

irony is fucking dead.

btw, entering the country illegally is a misdemeanor, what you are doing is a federal felony.

you are your own worst fucking enemy.
 

Budley Doright

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Lots of geo systems have their own proprietary parts,
Yes for the water furnace brand then, a T stat is ignorantly expensive.ypu ever haul everything ylu own into someone house to change a nasty compressor inside someone's house ? No thanks I'd rather tear apart everything g outside.
It really. Sucks
Wow, I have a lot of catching up to do lol. Not to nit pick but the proprietary stats for Waterfurnace was 25 years ago lol and only because it was DC voltage, digital battery powered stats would work, just don't run the common, someone should have told you but they kept that secret lol. But yup some communicating top end wifi stats can get up to the $1000 range. Anyways yes you hate them, I can live with that lol. But really your repair prices a fucked up when the whole unit can be had for well under $15000. Just sold a Geosmart 2 stage, 6 ton for $14.000 re&re, and our margins are in the +100% range. As for getting shit in the loop, well there is a reason why you filter the glycol or whatever through the flush process :(. I'm beginning to think you should PM me on your next service call, I may be able to help ;). I'm not going to change your mind and not trying, I'm just trying to add a bit of reality to this conversation. Gone way past the per gram cost of pot though which I still maintain is, here anyways, way beyond what an underground grower can do and still make huge, wish I was young again lol.
 

max420thc

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May I ask - Is there a hood brand you bought or did you make them?

May I ask what system you use for extraction? Looks really professional.
I am sorry I can't answer all of your questions about extraction.
There are class' s in my area on BHO extraction machines in my area I plan on taking .
Honestly I'm not a huge fan of extracts.
I do them very little. I've only blasted a couple of times and after smoking it a few times I don't even get high on it.
Immunity and tolerance to it is fast to where I no longer get high on it.
The extractions only remove a few of the canablnlids in the material and the other 24 or so canabanoids get left in the plant . I get higher off of the flower.
The first time or two you do it you get super high after that not much of anything.
I do not smoke while I am working so when I get back home I will get smashed .
 

max420thc

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grower of federally illegal schedule 1 controlled substance complains of "illegal aliens".

irony is fucking dead.

btw, entering the country illegally is a misdemeanor, what you are doing is a federal felony.

you are your own worst fucking enemy.
I know what you are thinking . In a way your not wrong thinking it.
In a way you are. .first off I am doing electrical.load calculations site lay out . Estimates on what the materials what kind of power how much power it will take , where the power runs to how many light are needed what kind of times for the curtains and light will be used .
How many gallons of water will be needed and how big the storage tanks will be needed . Tomorrow I will be doing load calculations for cooling on a building . Go home work up designs and estemates.
What I personally doing is not illegal. Now for you growers ,
If the federal government wants you they will get you there is nothing you can do about it. How much space do you think the federal government has in prisons to throw weed growers and dealers into prison? All of us seriously ?
They do not have enough prison space so what they are doing is going after the real hard ass's who are involved with other things other than marijuana .
When senator Orin hatch from Utah says hey, uh maybe we should reschedule this ND at least open it up for medical research even the hard ass conservatives are coming around it's only a matter of time it gets rescheduled at the federal level.
The ninth and tenth amendments to the US Constitution states all powers not relegated to the US government by the Constitution are reserved to the states and to the people.
I do understand that the federal government t rarely follows the Constitution and to many idiots in this country have no understanding of it.
If the federal government starts busting people for weed there will be a supreme Court challenge and they will lose that case.
The last thing in the world they want to happen
 
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