Light rail 4.0

charface

charface

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Was looking at light rail 4.0
If you check their site they are over three hundred each.

I found them on amazon for two hundred.

Even better the kit contains an extra rail so for 163 you simply buy an extra motor again in amazon

So $363 gets you two light rail 4.o setups.

They have delay and speed control.

Before I pull the trigger is there anything negative about this brand I should know?
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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charface said:
Was looking at light rail 4.0
If you check their site they are over three hundred each.

I found them on amazon for two hundred.

Even better the kit contains an extra rail so for 163 you simply buy an extra motor again in amazon

So $363 gets you two light rail 4.o setups.

They have delay and speed control.

Before I pull the trigger is there anything negative about this brand I should know?
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I got one almost a year and a half ago and love it! Using it right now with a 400w HPS.

Supposed to be real workhorses and the preferred mover for all sorts of commercial growers of all sorts of plants.

I want another one and know where I may be able to score a used one for around $130Can. I'll be using the one I have to light up an 8x4 space with a 1000w Super HPS. The motors only use 9w.

I got mine for $275 at a hydro store.

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racerboy71

racerboy71

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OldMedUser said:
I got one almost a year and a half ago and love it! Using it right now with a 400w HPS.

Supposed to be real workhorses and the preferred mover for all sorts of commercial growers of all sorts of plants.

I want another one and know where I may be able to score a used one for around $130Can. I'll be using the one I have to light up an 8x4 space with a 1000w Super HPS. The motors only use 9w.

I got mine for $275 at a hydro store.

:peace:
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what size space are you covering with the mover and the 400 watter oldmed?
 
OldMedUser

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Lucky Luke said:
I don't know allot about movers. Can they fit in a smaller grow space, say a 4 x 4 ?
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You can get the 3'3" rail or buy the 6'6" one and cut to size. They usually sell the motor separately then you buy the rail you want. Was $25 for my long one. If I get that used one it will have the shorter one which is perfect for my current grow space.

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Lucky Luke

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OldMedUser said:
You can get the 3'3" rail or buy the 6'6" one and cut to size. They usually sell the motor separately then you buy the rail you want. Was $25 for my long one. If I get that used one it will have the shorter one which is perfect for my current grow space.

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So you can cut them if needed. Good info thanks
 
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Aksala49

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charface said:
Was looking at light rail 4.0
If you check their site they are over three hundred each.



Even better the kit contains an extra rail so for 163 you simply buy an extra motor again in amazon

So $363 gets you two light rail 4.o setups.

They have delay and speed control.

Before I pull the trigger is there anything negative about this brand I should know?
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I've used them for years. Had a rebuild on one after 4 years of use. 8' long x 3' wide space, 1 Platinum 600 that pulls 340 watts at the wall gives me 3X the yield of a static light. The only "penalty" is grows will take about a week longer. Not much of a penalty for that extra 200%. Since my space is long, I got a couple extra "trollies" to suspend all my electrical cords above the canopy. Slicker than a gut!
 
charface

charface

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Aksala49 said:
I've used them for years. Had a rebuild on one after 4 years of use. 8' long x 3' wide space, 1 Platinum 600 that pulls 340 watts at the wall gives me 3X the yield of a static light. The only "penalty" is grows will take about a week longer. Not much of a penalty for that extra 200%. Since my space is long, I got a couple extra "trollies" to suspend all my electrical cords above the canopy. Slicker than a gut!
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Yeah, right now i have the light too high in order to at least get partial light to the border.
Im hoping i can drop that light a foot or so above because its air cooled and the movement should keep it from bleaching, thats my hope anyway.
 
OldMedUser

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racerboy71 said:
what size space are you covering with the mover and the 400 watter oldmed?
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It's a 4x4' Screen with the too tall plants draped over it but it's mainly a 4x3 area that needs the light mostly and it seems to be working OK. Just too wide to be covered well by a stationary 400. I could hang another 400 to get great coverage and had a 1000W on it but it seemed to be too much and my exhaust fan was coming on too often. Now the exhaust fan doesn't come on at all and my RH is staying up around 50% instead of 25% and I'm using a DIY alcohol lamp to keep the CO2 up over 1000ppm. Working great!

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OldMedUser

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charface said:
Yeah, right now i have the light too high in order to at least get partial light to the border.
Im hoping i can drop that light a foot or so above because its air cooled and the movement should keep it from bleaching, thats my hope anyway.
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Not just a hope but a reality. With my last grow I had a 1000w HPS as close as a foot away and checking with my laser thermometer the to leaf surfaces never got hotter than 80F. If I stopped the rail the temps shot right up and would soon fry the closest leaves. I was manually killing off thrips all thru flowering and it takes a bit of getting used to having the light slowly creeping back and forth. Kept a hat in the room to put on so it wasn't frying my hair. :)

To cover something like an 8x4 space I'd need two 600s at least but only have two 1000s so would need to be running both. One 1000w can do the job so I'm saving huge on very expensive power just using one. As soon as I can I want to get two 600s to run instead of a 1000. Mount them butt to butt for even better coverage end to end and get 50% more lumens for only 20% power usage.

First I have to get that space built and get a couple crops in to justify the cost of two new 600s. If everyone didn't have to be so sneaky about stuff like grow lights I could probably get a couple of used 600s off Kijiji or something for a couple hundred bux and I'd get them today. Need that money for a new exhaust fan and have my sights set on an 8" Vortex S-line with 728cfm. https://www.growlights.ca/fans-filters-ventilation/atmosphere-vortex-s-line-8.html I only have a 6" outlet but can use a couple cheap adaptors to hook it up and with a speed controller can run it slow most of the time but have more capacity for further expansion. 10 year warranty sound pretty good too. Cheap no-name one I'm using now is getting noisy and don't want to have that die on me and have no fan. Going to see if I can trade in my new 6" can filter for an 8" inline filter so I can run two separate lines thru it for both rooms. Back-draft flaps on each side with temp/rh controllers in each room. Too many options! :D

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charface

charface

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This is the screen i have been covering with two stationary 1000s.

I really messed this scrog up by running three strains at once. The difference in stretch left me cramped or too sparse in areas.

This next run will be all sour d
With two 1000s on movers.

I should be able to fill this entire net.

After that the last upgrade im considering are the ceramic lights im reading about here.

Still on the fence
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OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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charface said:
After that the last upgrade im considering are the ceramic lights im reading about here.

Still on the fence
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I'd stay on the fence about that. They are great lights but you'd need 2 of the 630w ones to do what you can do with the 1000s and it would take years to recoup the initial investment in power savings. Same with the COB LEDs argument that people keep throwing at me.

Sure they cost an arm, leg and your first born to buy but you'll save tons of money in electricity . . . eventually. I've looked at lots of great grows using LEDs and they have 3 or 4 light boxes hanging up there using almost as many real watts and covering no more area than I can do with one 3lb 1000w bulb in an open reflector hood. Not to mention the heat savings. I need the heat or my heater is coming on to keep it up in my cold basement and I'd rather get that heat from my light as light grows plants, not electric heat. lol

How big is that screen? I'll be doing 4 tubs in the 8x4 space and each will have it's own 4'x22" ScroG screen for 7.3sqft each. Would make them 4x2' but need to be able to get between the tubs to tie tips to the screen as they go thru the stretch. Each tub will be sitting on a wheeled dollie to make it easier to move them around and plan to have a curtain of panda film along the open side to bounce the light back on to the plants.

They will look something like this one I did a while back tho that tub isn't ScroGed.

DwcScroG01.jpg

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Victor6634

Victor6634

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It is a great system I used them on 2 1000 watt nanolux de and worked awesome I just don’t use them anymore since I switched to cobs and qbs. Light rails help eliminate hot spots
 
charface

charface

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OldMedUser said:
I'd stay on the fence about that. They are great lights but you'd need 2 of the 630w ones to do what you can do with the 1000s and it would take years to recoup the initial investment in power savings. Same with the COB LEDs argument that people keep throwing at me.

Sure they cost an arm, leg and your first born to buy but you'll save tons of money in electricity . . . eventually. I've looked at lots of great grows using LEDs and they have 3 or 4 light boxes hanging up there using almost as many real watts and covering no more area than I can do with one 3lb 1000w bulb in an open reflector hood. Not to mention the heat savings. I need the heat or my heater is coming on to keep it up in my cold basement and I'd rather get that heat from my light as light grows plants, not electric heat. lol

How big is that screen? I'll be doing 4 tubs in the 8x4 space and each will have it's own 4'x22" ScroG screen for 7.3sqft each. Would make them 4x2' but need to be able to get between the tubs to tie tips to the screen as they go thru the stretch. Each tub will be sitting on a wheeled dollie to make it easier to move them around and plan to have a curtain of panda film along the open side to bounce the light back on to the plants.

They will look something like this one I did a while back tho that tub isn't ScroGed.

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Screen is roughly 9x6.
Well that sucks i thought those lights
Put out better light band or whatever making them better than a standard 1000.
Sometimes I hear what I want to hear. Lol
 
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