Won't use bodhi again worst Hermies in 10 Bodhi

Serva

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While not 'psychedelic' per se, definitely induced a very trancelike, daydreamy state.
I have to underline this! Not what I would call psychedelic, but falling into a sunshine trance! I even liked the taste. Definitly NOT strong, but nice! A sweet floral taste, with sour/spicy undertones. Did I already mentioned, my wife called the buds SNOWBALLS (she doesn‘t know anything about weed), should be enough to imagine how frosty this cut is. You can see the first crystals right after flipping, and it won‘t stop producing more and more and more! None of my 6 plants had nanners (I am also running Jillybean, my last round with her, because all cuts (3) are producing nanners in week 4-5)! The cut is one of my hardest to grow, really sensitive to nutes, really sensitive to overwatering, and a fucking lanky girl... stretching like 200%. I will toss her now, because I am sooo height restricted, and have more appalachia crosses coming soon, but I will try to keep a stash of buds as long as possible, for the special moments! Most unique effect I have ever smoked!
 

ScaryHarry45

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Mate my environment is bang on im using osram SSL and citizen's i have grown over 60 strains from variable seed bank's and yes I have had a Hermie with a few seeds here and there but not as bad as this sunny D , it's like a male has shot his load over it and seed's everywhere, I am growing the blueberry hashplant next to her and she didn't Hermie and they're organics so there's nothing on my part that can influence Hermies so unfortunately I have a bum pack, Like i said maybe its a 1 off but it's enough never to buy his strains again, I'm fucking fuming with it tbh
If one hermie is enough to get you that mad its pretty clear you lack experience. And the fact you've experienced with multiple hermies in the past really exposes your story. I been growing for 15-16 years and have seen MAYBE one or two full on hermies that I wouldnt consider my own fault. You do realize what you're claiming is so far from the norm that its really tough to take your claim seriously. Not to mention you think you can change the sex of the plant after germination. That would make plant sex test kits pretty obsolete.

Can we see pic of one of your best buds? And you talk of lack of smell in strains. What is your harvesting tek? So many questions ... DO YOU EVEN GROW BRO?
 
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nc208

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Holy Fudge how is this thread still going on? This troll has you all going for 9 pages?

If you want a snapshot of this trolls experience
So I got myself some bodhi seeds blueberry hashplants and sunshine daydream, I had a few sunshine daydream males I picked 1 Which actually fooled me in the beginning when I didn't know how to sex a plant in veg mode and put it in my assumed female group until flower to my surprise it was a male!!,bushiest shortest male I've seen could have been a heshe lol so I collected the pollen and pollinated my psychosis female and now got my first batch of seeds and want to know should i be ripening them should I wait for a few weeks to harden off and what would this be known as?a IBL F1 S1 this is where im confused, Also is this the best way to get top genetics? Thanks in advance
http://rollitup.org/t/newbie-breeder-any-tips.953993/
 

whitebb2727

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So after reading up on all the hype about bodhi strains i decided to Give a couple of strains a go myself sunshine daydream And blueberry hashplant, I germinated 5 bbhp and 7ssdd I had 3 blueberry hashplant females and 2 females from the sunshine daydream which is pretty piss poor if you ask me but that's not anyone's fault, I harvested the blueberry hashplant had 2 phenos kept my favourite but the sunshine daydream i had 2 different phenos harvested 1 last week to find it covered in seeds I've had around 50 so far and I only smoked a quarter or so, I thought ok maybe it's a 1 off I'll try the other pheno and it's on week 4 and I inspected the buds this time and Just found a load more seed pods on it.so out of £80 worth of seed's I ended up with 2 females both Hermies and I will say this which I know won't be popular, dinafem and Humboldt do better strains at the fraction of the price,sunny d smell's ok but it didn't wow me what so ever and the other people who smoked it with me said the same it's Just ok. I have a feeling that because sunny d got popular and bodhi run out i think some rush job was done to get seed's back in stock Cause my sunny d looks More like the green crack i grew with Humboldts tamping folk's, I've Gone over to UGORG now screw bodhi strains
Pics or it didn't haplen5. Bodhi is solid gear. Grower mistakes can cause herms.
 

whitebb2727

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Bummer. It sucks when you get duds. I've had a couple of them in the past, Barney's Farm are duds for me, I refuse to buy any of those seeds. But others have luck with them.

Yea, Ancient was good for me on first try, I bought several more packs and have been lucky each time. I'm on my last pack.. if I pull a good male, I might chuck some pollen.
That makes me wonder. I've had a few various duds from various breeders. I'm talking full on beautiful plants. Plump solid buds with good smell. No high to them though. I figured it was one of those things that happen every so many hundreds or thousands of seeds.
 

N.R.G.

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I'm interested in what seed bank you ordered your Bodhi seeds from. Might have run into someone pulling a switch on you. Bodhi sent his last 300 or so packs of SSDD to GLG awhile back and when they are out they are out. Both the male and female in that mix were lost. Post pics so we can see what they look like.
 

whitebb2727

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Not really going to do anything. The sex of the plant is determined at the time the pollen mates with the flower. Much like humans, physical sex is determined long before birth/germination.

When a breeder makes a run, they will get between 3k-5k seeds. 50%-60% of those will be female. It's entirely possible you can get a pack of only male seeds. It does happen (so does all F seeds). It doesn't mean squat other than you lost the lottery.

Despite ritual beliefs, there really isn't anything you can do to change the sex of a plant short of a massive assault with hormones/chemistry. You can induce hermies in a female, but if you want flowers on a male you will still have a male with flowers.

So the sex ratio is just bad luck. A tent full of seeds is lazy growing. even if you somehow plant a male, you should still spot it. Anything short of nanners should be easy to spot. And nanners will only have localized effects (I've had a few nanners and no seeds in one case - not bodhi).

So the first thing you did wrong was attack a breeder for something that was out of their control, and then you doubled down by attacking them for something you should have caught. Then you topped it off with a topic title that is 100 on the attack-o-meter.

It seems like you meant to attack the breeder rather than discuss an issue or point out an experience. And those will get very different results.
Environment does effect the sex of cannabis.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/IND43966819/PDF&ved=0ahUKEwiliMbm9qjYAhUa24MKHet0CsYQFghOMAg&usg=AOvVaw04F293EWqL9izZU9jPxqwF

That is a pdf. Kind of long and for cannabis sativa l. Hemp. I don't see why it wouldn't apply to other types of cannabis.
 

Yodaweed

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Environment does effect the sex of cannabis.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/IND43966819/PDF&ved=0ahUKEwiliMbm9qjYAhUa24MKHet0CsYQFghOMAg&usg=AOvVaw04F293EWqL9izZU9jPxqwF

That is a pdf. Kind of long and for cannabis sativa l. Hemp. I don't see why it wouldn't apply to other types of cannabis.
What do you mean by this? Cannabis has distinct sex features that can be tested before sex is shown , which shows sex is predetermined, if you are getting hermies it's due to stress. Environment won't determine sex, it's the main reason why these tests are offered.

https://growershouse.com/remo-greenscreen-plant-gender-id-kit?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp11275&sc_intid=11275&keyword=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn_LCqo6p2AIVDtVkCh1tcAIlEAQYASABEgIdEfD_BwE
 

greg nr

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Environment does effect the sex of cannabis.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/IND43966819/PDF&ved=0ahUKEwiliMbm9qjYAhUa24MKHet0CsYQFghOMAg&usg=AOvVaw04F293EWqL9izZU9jPxqwF

That is a pdf. Kind of long and for cannabis sativa l. Hemp. I don't see why it wouldn't apply to other types of cannabis.
Sure, you can stress plants out and they will attempt to self pollinate. But you aren't changing the sex. There is either a y chromosome or there isn't. You aren't taking an xx pair and making them an xy.

The chromosomal sex of a plant is determined when the seed is formed. You can change the expression, but not the genes. And without a major assault of hormones or chemstry, you aren't going to suppress male sex parts and force female flowers instead.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Sure, you can stress plants out and they will attempt to self pollinate. But you aren't changing the sex. There is either a y chromosome or there isn't. You aren't taking an xx pair and making them an xy.

The chromosomal sex of a plant is determined when the seed is formed. You can change the expression, but not the genes. And without a major assault of hormones or chemstry, you aren't going to suppress male sex parts and force female flowers instead.
While I agree with that statement, because it's true, I have noticed I tend to get more females when I provide certain environmental factors during the seedlings early life. I will also admit that I assumed this was conjecture but it has done me justice since I've started doing it. More blue spectrum, warmer root zone temps, higher nitrogen etc..

So I assumed seeds behaved like human embryos which all start off female and either form male parts or doesn't so I assumed same with seeds, not really sexually determined until later stages in the organisms life cycle.

Cheers
 

whitebb2727

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Sure, you can stress plants out and they will attempt to self pollinate. But you aren't changing the sex. There is either a y chromosome or there isn't. You aren't taking an xx pair and making them an xy.

The chromosomal sex of a plant is determined when the seed is formed. You can change the expression, but not the genes. And without a major assault of hormones or chemstry, you aren't going to suppress male sex parts and force female flowers instead.
In the experiment it was observed that environment can influence sex.

I get what your saying. I actually agree. I also think just because something is thought to be correct doesn't mean its right.


Research on cannabis has been restricted. I would like to see more and I'm sure we will

There are studies and expierments that show it possible for environment to influence sex. In the pdf it actually showed a difference in sex ratio.

My own experiments with it, anecdotal at best, lead be to believe environment can influence sex.


I don't believe it to be as drastic an influence as some have said.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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In the experiment it was observed that environment can influence sex.

I get what your saying. I actually agree. I also think just because something is thought to be correct doesn't mean its right.


Research on cannabis has been restricted. I would like to see more and I'm sure we will

There are studies and expierments that show it possible for environment to influence sex. In the pdf it actually showed a difference in sex ratio.

My own experiments with it, anecdotal at best, lead be to believe environment can influence sex.


I don't believe it to be as drastic an influence as some have said.
That's the same results I've found when researching online. Cheers
 

Serva

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I don‘t have changed my enviroment. Last time I popped seeds, I got 8 males out of 10 plants. This time I got 10 females out of 11 plants...

I have not read any experiment, which was big enough, to proof such a statement, as plants wouldn‘t be determinated way before sexing, or even seedling stage.

It‘s also wrong, that all humans are female in the beginning. They are EMBRYOS! Universal Beings! Sexual appearance like dick and tits will express later, yes. Same for our plants! But the information is already inside, what will be expressed later.
 

N.R.G.

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I read that too. He even was all excited about his SSDD cross in a previous thread and then came back to that same thread and started with the herm talk. LOL
After reading that thread I'm sorry to say that I believe you accidentally pollinated your females. I have ran 4 full packs of SSDD searching for certain phenos and in my experience they have been super stable with males not ever showing sex until flipping the light. I had some that spent a year in veg before I got around to cloning them and then sending to flower. None of my 40+ SSDD ever had females throw nanners for what it's worth. Not saying they can't ever do it because all plants can if stressed hard enough. Anyway, consider yourself lucky, you have a batch of SSDD F2's!!
 

elkamino

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Hmm. My experience was different than the OP. Last year I popped 5 SSDD, got 4 girls, no nanners, 3 excellent plants and 2 solid keepers. Kept 1, she dense and smells of buttery blueberry muffin batter. Here’s some of her lowers at ~45 days. I’m about to flip her again, 4th run :bigjoint: At this point Hell I’d love to see a nanner
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GreenHighlander

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This thread is absolutely HILARIOUS.
The OP is such a tool that he shoulda been cool and stayed in school, so he could be a jerk and go to work.
Instead of being a jerk and attempting to trash a reputable breeders name .
YOU fucked up, NOT Bodhi .
Now stop being an arrogant tit and try to figure out what you did wrong.
Goodluck
 

Serva

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It‘s so interesting to see everyone looking for some different keeper! This one is looking like my #5 and #6 (which I still got). Great pain relief? Way more dense than the other plants? No trance like feeling? More a body stone? #2 (my personal fav) and #11 were lanky af, but had this lovely dreamy effect. #11 felt more like the sun was shining on my head (not that nice for me), while #2 is floating my body with warm sunshine, which just let me linger over dreams. #9 and #10 were just a mixing of everyhing between, nothing special for me. But none of them had nanners! I just flipped them (#2 + #6) for my 3rd run now!
 

see4

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That makes me wonder. I've had a few various duds from various breeders. I'm talking full on beautiful plants. Plump solid buds with good smell. No high to them though. I figured it was one of those things that happen every so many hundreds or thousands of seeds.
Good question. I don't think I've ever had an issue with plants not producing trichs, and thusly a high. But I suppose it could happen... that thc doesn't get produced in a fem plant.
 
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