Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

[ttystikk]

The reason that the soldier is holding a gun on that man is ISIS does not play by the rules of war, and that soldier is not going to take a chance. Hold him there till he is proven not to be the enemy.
That's the way it worked when I was a GI. Never trust anyone but your team.

Do you think them soldiers want to be there?

The question being asked is whether and why that soldier needs to be there at all.

 

[Sedan]

Do you think them soldiers want to be there?

Of course they want, do not hesitate !!

Captured Ukrainian soldiers in the Donbas. They are forced to sing the Hymn of Russia ... they sing with pleasure !!

 

[Sedan]

The question being asked is whether and why that soldier needs to be there at all.

I do not agree, Colleague, with your opinion, unfortunately! If you do not mind, I will express my opinion. The main thing in all this: To whom is this beneficial ?? !! And what specific goals (not TV or Internet news), it is SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES, pursued by someone who benefits from it !! ??

And this is not a gang of terrorists, they are very clever and calculating people. It's people, not the image of some !!!!!!!!!!! They are higher than all the shit that we are interested in, than they are laughing, they saturate us, knowing the basest desires of people, and pursuing exclusively selfish goals !!!!IThis group of people .. ordinary people! And there is a SYSTEM which is a priori evil, as it is written in the Bible

 

[gr865]

Can go by the false stories in the bible. They were told that just to control the masses.
Why are we in the middle east? The answer is damn simple, OIL, period, oh, and the fact the a majority of our elected officials have major stock holdings in the war machine.

 

[Sedan]

Why are we in the middle east?

To whom is this beneficial ?? !!

Bingo, Bro !! You are on the right track ...

Now the second question:

Why is someone in Ukraine ?! In addition ... this conflict was not who was not profitable ..because we see the result...

PEACE!!!

PS: Gentlemen, you often take offense at me, that I do not like the US government !! Have you ever wondered why a Ukrainian citizen does not like the US government? He did not see the US government once in his life!

 

[Sedan]

Once again I apologize !!! If you do not agree to say this, I will CLOSE YOUR OWN FOREVER !! You will listen only about acid-base balance and control of salt level in the ground !! You just tell me !!

 

[gr865]

The question being asked is whether and why that soldier needs to be there at all.

I do not believe that picture was taken in the Ukraine, I do not believe that US soldiers are in the Ukraine. I could be wrong, but I have heard nothing on any US forces being there. I remember once in Viet Nam, I held a whole village hostage while my team went through the village. In one hut, they found a stash of weapons, a major stash. When they came back and ask who that hut belonged to no one said a word, and then one man stood up an ran, he did not get far. One of my teammates just happen to step around the corner where that ol boy was running and caught him right in the jaw with the but of his M16, took him to the ground. I would have shot him had my teammate had not stopped him.
He could have pulled the pistol he had and shot one on my teammates or me, that would not have been good because there would have been lots of bloodshed of innocent people.
I say innocent, but the members of that village did not turn him in, and I am sure they knew about him.

Anyway, if the picture Sedan posted with the soldier holding the person hostage is in the Ukraine I apologize, we should not be there.

GR

 

[ttystikk]

I do not agree, Colleague, with your opinion, unfortunately! If you do not mind, I will express my opinion. The main thing in all this: To whom is this beneficial ?? !! And what specific goals (not TV or Internet news), it is SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES, pursued by someone who benefits from it !! ??

And this is not a gang of terrorists, they are very clever and calculating people. It's people, not the image of some !!!!!!!!!!! They are higher than all the shit that we are interested in, than they are laughing, they saturate us, knowing the basest desires of people, and pursuing exclusively selfish goals !!!!IThis group of people .. ordinary people! And there is a SYSTEM which is a priori evil, as it is written in the Bible

I think you got my meaning backwards.

I don't want American soldiers in Iraq, or in Afghanistan, or in Kenya, Columbia, Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc etc etc

America does not fight wars to win them anymore, only to keep spending money on defense companies so they can keep taking profits while impoverishing the American People at home.

 

[ttystikk]

I do not believe that picture was taken in the Ukraine, I do not believe that US soldiers are in the Ukraine. I could be wrong, but I have heard nothing on any US forces being there. I remember once in Viet Nam, I held a whole village hostage while my team went through the village. In one hut, they found a stash of weapons, a major stash. When they came back and ask who that hut belonged to no one said a word, and then one man stood up an ran, he did not get far. One of my teammates just happen to step around the corner where that ol boy was running and caught him right in the jaw with the but of his M16, took him to the ground. I would have shot him had my teammate had not stopped him.
He could have pulled the pistol he had and shot one on my teammates or me, that would not have been good because there would have been lots of bloodshed of innocent people.
I say innocent, but the members of that village did not turn him in, and I am sure they knew about him.

Anyway, if the picture Sedan posted with the soldier holding the person hostage is in the Ukraine I apologize, we should not be there.

GR

That pic was taken in Iraq or Afghanistan.

 

[gr865]

I think you got my meaning backwards.

I don't want American soldiers in Iraq, or in Afghanistan, or in Kenya, Columbia, Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc etc etc

America does not fight wars to win them anymore, only to keep spending money on defense companies so they can keep taking profits while impoverishing the American People at home.

Now that is a No Shit comment!
And even when the conflict ends, the American people foot the fucking bill to rebuild the country we were at war with. Only to have it destroyed by the people that didn't want us there in the first place.
The US has led the world for a very long time, being protector, guardian and peace keeper. When actually the only countries they did this for were the countries with OIL or something else that our government wanted. They could give a shit about anywhere that does not have something that will enrich the wealthy of our country and every other country in the world. Hell we don't even take care of our own territories if they can't or don't enrich the wealthy, look at Porto Rico. Fucking DJT did not even know that it was a US territory.
Every politician is out for his own good, what can he do to enrich him/herself. That is not just in the USA but every country in the world.
It upsets me so that we as a people put up with the crap that our government gets away with.
We need a wholesale house and senate cleanup, get rid of them lifers, begin term limits, put all poilitions on the same packages as the people, Social Security, Healthcare, and the benefits they receive, during and after they serve.

It is time to stop the madness!

GR

 

[gr865]

That pic was taken in Iraq or Afghanistan.

That is what I basically said, and the reason for that is what I explained before. I don't give a shit about how scared that person was, make sure he is not the enemy before you turn your back on him.
I lost a nephew in Afghanistan, had an insurgent get into their camp dressed as an Afghan soldier and he kill my nephew and one other before he was killed. But what can you expect from adversaries who use women and children as shields.
There were many times during interrogation of a suspected NVR I would get so pissed I would want to walk up to him and just shoot him in the head but he knew that as US soldiers we would not harm him and he would basically laugh at us and had a few spit in my face. They only did that once, the butt of my M16 hurts when put in the right location. Oh and I got reprimanded for doing that and lost rank for 3 months and had to take the lower pay level. That sucked. But we are suppose to be the nice guys!

GR

 

[ttystikk]

Now that is a No Shit comment!
And even when the conflict ends, the American people foot the fucking bill to rebuild the country we were at war with. Only to have it destroyed by the people that didn't want us there in the first place.
The US has led the world for a very long time, being protector, guardian and peace keeper. When actually the only countries they did this for were the countries with OIL or something else that our government wanted. They could give a shit about anywhere that does not have something that will enrich the wealthy of our country and every other country in the world. Hell we don't even take care of our own territories if they can't or don't enrich the wealthy, look at Porto Rico. Fucking DJT did not even know that it was a US territory.
Every politician is out for his own good, what can he do to enrich him/herself. That is not just in the USA but every country in the world.
It upsets me so that we as a people put up with the crap that our government gets away with.
We need a wholesale house and senate cleanup, get rid of them lifers, begin term limits, put all poilitions on the same packages as the people, Social Security, Healthcare, and the benefits they receive, during and after they serve.

It is time to stop the madness!

GR

Let's start with getting money out of our political system.

 

[Sedan]

I think you got my meaning backwards.

I don't want American soldiers in Iraq, or in Afghanistan, or in Kenya, Columbia, Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc etc etc

America does not fight wars to win them anymore, only to keep spending money on defense companies so they can keep taking profits while impoverishing the American People at home.

You're the only American who understands me right here !!! Thank you!! Translate all I can not translate it into English !!

I'm not a communist, I'm a philosopher !!!

I do not believe that picture was taken in the Ukraine, I do not believe that US soldiers are in the Ukraine. I could be wrong, but I have heard nothing on any US forces being there.

GR

I'm demoralized, my Friend !! You can not distinguish an Arab from a Ukrainian? ..... that's really news for me !! I'm shocked! I now imagine an image of a Ukrainian in the head of an American ... I'm shocked !! My tongue is speechless!Imagine if you showed me a Thai or a native of New Guinea, and I would say that it's an American, and then would have entered into a pale with you about the stock prices on Wall Street? What would you tell me?

But we are suppose to be the nice guys!

GR

Napalm not used in Vietnam, the best guys? Or do you want to show what kind of injury leaves napalm? I compare napalm with chemical attacks of 1914. Top of civilization.)))

In Ukraine from Americans, only "dead presidents", they do their job, at times better than any napalm !! There are no American soldiers in Ukraine, they can only be in Afghanistan, or in Kenya, Columbia, Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc. etc etc Because Goode guys are afraid of wild bears, they bite!)))

 

[ttystikk]

That is what I basically said, and the reason for that is what I explained before. I don't give a shit about how scared that person was, make sure he is not the enemy before you turn your back on him.
I lost a nephew in Afghanistan, had an insurgent get into their camp dressed as an Afghan soldier and he kill my nephew and one other before he was killed. But what can you expect from adversaries who use women and children as shields.
There were many times during interrogation of a suspected NVR I would get so pissed I would want to walk up to him and just shoot him in the head but he knew that as US soldiers we would not harm him and he would basically laugh at us and had a few spit in my face. They only did that once, the butt of my M16 hurts when put in the right location. Oh and I got reprimanded for doing that and lost rank for 3 months and had to take the lower pay level. That sucked. But we are suppose to be the nice guys!

GR

Two time Congressional Medal of Honor recipient and Marine Corp General Smedley Butler wrote a book 80 years ago, War is a Racket;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

I bet he'd have plenty to say about today's military adventurism.

A link to quotes from the book;
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/191777-war-is-a-racket

 

[Sedan]

I think you got my meaning backwards.

I don't want American soldiers in Iraq, or in Afghanistan, or in Kenya, Columbia, Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc etc etc

America does not fight wars to win them anymore, only to keep spending money on defense companies so they can keep taking profits while impoverishing the American People at home.

You're the only American who understands me right here !!! Thank you!! Translate all I can not translate it into English !!

I'm not a communist, I'm a philosopher !!!

I do not believe that picture was taken in the Ukraine, I do not believe that US soldiers are in the Ukraine. I could be wrong, but I have heard nothing on any US forces being there.

GR

I'm demoralized, my Friend !! You can not distinguish an Arab from a Ukrainian? ..... that's really news for me !! I'm shocked! I now imagine an image of a Ukrainian in the head of an American ... I'm shocked !! My tongue is speechless!Imagine if you showed me a Thai or a native of New Guinea, and I would say that it's an American, and then would have entered into a pale with you about the stock prices on Wall Street? What would you tell me?

Napalm not used in Vietnam, the best guys? Or do you want to show what kind of injury leaves napalm? I compare napalm with chemical attacks of 1914. Top of civilization.))) In ukraine from Americans, only "dead presidents", they do their job, at times better than any napalm !! There are no American soldiers in Ukraine, they can only be in Afghanistan, or in Kenya, Columbia, Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc. etc etc

 

[gr865]

Well all in all, this a forum for cannabis growing not politics.

I hate what my country has done throughout the world. I consider us bullies, but again it is all about oil.

 

[gr865]

I'm demoralized, my Friend !! You can not distinguish an Arab from a Ukrainian? ..... that's really news for me !! I'm shocked! I now imagine an image of a Ukrainian in the head of an American ... I'm shocked !!
I sincerely apologize for my lack of knowledge of your country. I am not one to keep up on world politics. Hell I don't even want to keep up with US news.
It is time for DJT to exit.

 

[ttystikk]

Well all in all, this a forum for cannabis growing not politics.

I hate what my country has done throughout the world. I consider us bullies, but again it is all about oil.

Not just oil anymore.

 

[Sedan]

I'm demoralized, my Friend !! You can not distinguish an Arab from a Ukrainian? ..... that's really news for me !! I'm shocked! I now imagine an image of a Ukrainian in the head of an American ... I'm shocked !!
I sincerely apologize for my lack of knowledge of your country. I am not one to keep up on world politics. Hell I don't even want to keep up with US news.
It is time for DJT to exit.

Thanks, there was an interesting discussion!

Not just oil anymore.

......

 

[Frajola]

Bro, I call you to the revolution? Are you kidding? laughing can I start?)) I do not know Cuba, I have never been interested in this beautiful country, unfortunately. Therefore, I did not write anything about her. This is just an alternative, which, in my opinion, deserves to be studied as a world precedent. History needs to be known from all sides, in order to avoid mistakes, or vice versa in the future.

If I offended someone with this song, who suffered from those people, I sincerely apologize !! I did not know that this song will cause such negative emotions, my Friend! My mistake!!

For me, peace is certainly possible, because he lives in my heart !!

PEACE!!!!

PS:Russia has this cup constantly, since the time of Ivan the Terrible, the 16th
century, who killed his son personally for wanting to overthrow him!

"Ivan the Terrible kills his son" - a picture of the Russian artist Ilya Repin, written in 1883-1885.


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No offense taken Sedan, actually thanks for uploading the video, so many others can see and always learn something, history has to be known like you well said.
And always, like a coin, the thing has 2 sides, even today there are Cubans that still love the former and past bushwhacker dictator Fidel Castro.
Even in Brazil we still have stupid people that love the corrupt politicians, they just refuse to see the light.
Its like to refuse to believe that the man went to the moon with Russian rockets!! lol.....

By the way today a Judy from the supreme federal court of some bullshit in Brazil set free some corrupt people, they were convicted already by the justice and they were well put in jail and supose to be in for a hell of a time and even like that they were set free today. That is really offensive to the people of my country, a shame!

peace folks.....