VegasWinner
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name calling does you no good, reading will enhance your viewPicking on the OP? What the fuck are you even talking about? Name one thing I am wrong about or made up dumbass..
name calling does you no good, reading will enhance your viewPicking on the OP? What the fuck are you even talking about? Name one thing I am wrong about or made up dumbass..
I'm sure you can get these boards with real LM561c if you follow my advice above. A customer who buys only a few boards is uninteresting, they want big customers. If you are being lied to, you also have to lie to get to your destination. It's like Poker, you have to bluff them to get the more valuable Samsung diodes into the pot(on the board).I realize there are other costs associated of course, but those associated costs per board are pretty low, all they do is load a reel of leds into a machine and yes those machines cost money and so do the operators. Also being a manufacturer/factory in China I'm sure they buy the led's for a good margin less than I can as well.. You are right though in the aspect if they can con me with diodes at half the cost of what they were supposed to give me they possibly increased their profit margin by +50%.
[/QUOTE]1. Name one thing I said that was wrong.
2. The supplier will not discuss what HLG paid, that would be incredibly stupid on their part.
3. I did not pay $75, I did not pay anything I never purchased from HLG.
4. The price of $75 actually does mean something regarding what HLG paid, it means they paid a lower price than $75 with enough room for a profit, I never claimed to know what they paid.
5. I have not made up anything.
Yes exactly!Had I known what I know now I probably would have done something of the sort. I did however recently email the supplier and told them I purchased a samsung 304 board from a reputable us seller for comparison to make sure I am getting legit lm561c s6 diodes.
not a good business model in my opinion.I'm sure you can get these boards with real LM561c if you follow my advice above. A customer who buys only a few boards is uninteresting, they want big customers. If you are being lied to, you also have to lie to get to your destination. It's like Poker, you have to bluff them to get the more valuable Samsung diodes into the pot(on the board).
If they think you want to buy hundreds of boards, but you need to test them before you buy hundreds, you'll probably get boards that really fit the description.
I thiNK you JUST DIDYes exactly!
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i don't think you have been following this thread closely. the user you are responding to did not purchase from jeff, he purchased from a different seller on alibaba. i also don't think he received his boards yet. the OP @chuckduck purchased and received boards from jeff, and posted the picture of a diode which @Randomblame is suggesting may be fake. at this point i don't believe @nxsov180db has any reason to believe his boards are fake as i don't think he received themyou have no facts. that is called conjecture. You do NOT know you are making up to argue and you call me a dumbass while you make up information to argue with. name a fact you provided so far beyond retail price. you have no clue to wholesale production, i.e. conjecture.
I have facts.I work with Jeff regularly as my regular supplier. we talk all the time that is how that works, business relationships.
I get real boards with real Samsung diodes that work great too.. facts.
I am not here to argue, just point out the differences. If you have facts about HLG and their production costs, I would love to hear more, as they have NDA's.
I do me not worried about HLG.
makes life simple.
Look at the diodes on these boards and tell me they're real LM561c. I do not mean your GGboards or those of HLG, just those on this thread.not a good business model in my opinion.
If I have to lie to get what I want BAD cause.
If he has to lie to sell me what he wants BAD cause too. bad for business
I prefer to do business with HONEST people not LIARS, either a customer or a supplier.
Bad karma to do otherwise in my view of life.
LOL!I thiNK you JUST DID
you have been nothing but helpful and professional from what i have seen. some people can't handle the truth.Now you go too far, my friend! Do not insult me and do not call me a dick. I've done more for this forum than you think and just because you're in a bad mood, you do not have to offend me.
Thanks for that post. 174 l/w vs. 191l/w best case scenario if I'm reading that correctly.This is Sammy's LED calculator tool
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/led/support/tools/calculator-pkg
Here is a quick comparison, but for the 561c I took the "worst" A1 voltage bin and for 561b+ I used the middle voltage bin. You do not know which binning was used here.
BTW,
He(Jeff) used exactly the same excuse for another customer who posted his experiences here. I just do not know in which thread but I know he got some double row 16" strips with 96 diodes.
The first delivery was real and the second time he got 561b+ instead of 561c.
Yeah, I should strap him to a chair and force him to read my entire post history, LOL!
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For sure still better than HPS. The difference could be between 5-25lm/w less depending on the used binnings. But you can compensate it by a certain margin if you drive them a bit lower.Thanks for that post. 174 l/w vs. 191l/w best case scenario if I'm reading that correctly.
Ultimately this will be a better build than HPS right? What's your prediction on what I'd get if I pulled the trigger on what he says will be the real C diodes?