How late can method 1 ppm be used in flower?

greg nr

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The mfg will tell you up to 1 day before. I doubt anyone has even come close to that.

But, people will certainly have ideas. It is a very aromatic oil. I imagine you could smell/taste it for days. But if I leave it out in a cup for example, it won't have any detectable smell after a week. The oils seem to be pretty volatile.

I don't use it past the second week of flour myself. If I use anything beyond that it would just be spinosad, which is a short lived bacteria and not harmful to people.
 

spokehead88

Active Member
The mfg will tell you up to 1 day before. I doubt anyone has even come close to that.

But, people will certainly have ideas. It is a very aromatic oil. I imagine you could smell/taste it for days. But if I leave it out in a cup for example, it won't have any detectable smell after a week. The oils seem to be pretty volatile.

I don't use it past the second week of flour myself. If I use anything beyond that it would just be spinosad, which is a short lived bacteria and not harmful to people.




Ok thanks so much for your knowledge.
Ill go woith spinosad then, what brand could you recomend? Capt jack?
Perhaps there is a cost friendly spinosoad out there?

I have eienstein oil, but it smells like old chinese food, id rather not spray that. I also have go gnats, i beleive its made up of cedar oil amoung other things...

How long can spinosad be used in flower?

Thanks you again
 

greg nr

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Are you fighting gnats? Try this in your water: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007UTE55A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then put up sticky traps. I wouldn't spray anything on flowers the last 2 weeks of flower, and preferably the last 4. The bacteria in the mosquito control will kill the larvae in the soil, and the traps will help snatch up the fliers.

As far as brand, I think there are only 2 brands of spinosad; monterey and capt jacks. I've only used the monterey.
 

spokehead88

Active Member
Are you fighting gnats? Try this in your water: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007UTE55A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then put up sticky traps. I wouldn't spray anything on flowers the last 2 weeks of flower, and preferably the last 4. The bacteria in the mosquito control will kill the larvae in the soil, and the traps will help snatch up the fliers.

As far as brand, I think there are only 2 brands of spinosad; monterey and capt jacks. I've only used the monterey.

Ohh ok,
I was/ am batteling mites, i think ive killed most off as ive been sprayin since 2 1/2 weeks in veg.
It had a 7 week veg, currently on day 15 of flower.
I will apply method 1, 1 last time b4 i switch to spinosad.
There og strains, indoor, under 1 k hps, coco. 11clones in 4 gal bags.
Im wondering if i could soil drench as well.
I do have some yello stickies, ill add more soon.
 

spokehead88

Active Member
Are you fighting gnats? Try this in your water: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007UTE55A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then put up sticky traps. I wouldn't spray anything on flowers the last 2 weeks of flower, and preferably the last 4. The bacteria in the mosquito control will kill the larvae in the soil, and the traps will help snatch up the fliers.

As far as brand, I think there are only 2 brands of spinosad; monterey and capt jacks. I've only used the monterey.
Thanls for the recomended product, ill save as a reference.
 

spokehead88

Active Member
Are you fighting gnats? Try this in your water: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007UTE55A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then put up sticky traps. I wouldn't spray anything on flowers the last 2 weeks of flower, and preferably the last 4. The bacteria in the mosquito control will kill the larvae in the soil, and the traps will help snatch up the fliers.

As far as brand, I think there are only 2 brands of spinosad; monterey and capt jacks. I've only used the monterey.

Can i spray spinosad on flowers at day 30?
Or just leafes
 

OldMedUser

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Been spraying since 2 1/2 weeks in veg and didn't get rid of them before flowering?

You're doing it wrong then. I just use Safer's Ends All II soap spray with Pyrethiums in veg with maybe a bit of neem and make sure that there's not a bug to be found before flipping to flower. My last grow I spent two hours a day hand killing thrips all thru flower because I flat out refuse to spray anything once in I start flowering. Not doing that again.

Been messing with thrips and mites in my vegging plants for the last couple of months because I wasn't diligent enough but one more spray session ought to be rid of them for good tomorrow. Went thru all 10 plants with my magnifying glass this morning and couldn't find a single live bug but one more spray will make sure they are gone for sure. 4 sprays, 3 days apart, should wipe out everything as long as you're careful to make sure you get every little bit of leaf and stem surface. I spray the top of the soil too in case there are any crawling around down there as well.

The bugs were a bonus that came with some free plants a buddy gave me. He's got both bugs all over his house plants and the mothers he sells clones off of and will never be rid of them until his house burns down. :D

You won't be able to get rid of them by just spraying the leaves and how you could even do that without getting overspray on the buds is a secret all growers would pay big money to know. lol

:peace:
 
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