Seed Junkie Genetics

whytewidow

whytewidow

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I work to hard for my.money to buy seeds that herm. I nvr got on the wedding cake hype or purple punch kick. 150 a pack for a chance at getting shit. Why. There are tons n tons of breeders some not mainstream that put out better fire for a whole lot less. Just like back in the day with Cali conn hermie issue. Do your due diligence and dont waste your money. If you really look on IG. You can find smaller breeders that are pulling over 30% thc on worked lines. That blow sjg herm issue outta the water.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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eastcoastled said:
$50 per pack means he has to sell 2000 packs to net 100k. 100k minus packaging, and other expenses to get to the final product. Then the tax man has to get his, I say he's lucky to walk away with 50k. 4000 packs to clear 100k and that's if it's only him by himself doing all the work, packaging, etc. Anyone who owns a legit legal business will tell you if 50% of your sales end up back in your pocket as profit, you are fucking killing it!. The seed banks are the ones murdering the game.
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Observe & Report said:
I don't think the USA seed banks are making that much money, either. I'm pretty sure DBJ has a day job, which is why GLG promos start at 6 and 9 pm his time. Terp T said he's the "oil man" as in concentrates so I think OES is a side business for him too. Selling seeds is probably a way better gig than being someones trimmer but I doubt anyone is getting rich doing it. It's likely a power law distribution so 10% of the banks and breeders are doing 90% of the business. Attitude probably makes a lot of revenue but they have employees so profit is likely low. Reshipping and dealing with angry idiots saps a lot of profit. In any event, the seed banks are carrying most of the risk so they have to make profit to make it worth their while but I doubt they are taking home much.
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Man y’all just don’t know how much some of these breeders make in a year but it’s only certain ones. Over 100k plus and I don’t think they be paying taxes simply cus it’s still illegal federally. Seedsherenow makes the most simply cus he has the bread to buy all stock and sells at all the cups and events and buys the best gear. Overseas will never be the same since USA banks are so prevelant but yea there are some getting stupid rich
 
AmericanGrower508

AmericanGrower508

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General rule of thumb is breeder gets paid half of what bank sells it for. Like BOG I can buy straight from him at $40 or the bank at $80.
As for how much breeders make, having made plenty of seeds I can safely say that if a breeder uses a 4 x 8 of all 1 cross he will easily get over 10000 seeds. So if he is running say 4 tents with 4 different crosses thats say 40000 seeds. 10 a pack = 4000 x $50 = 200k - say 5k for pkg/stickers. Plus thats 1 run so even if he grows bud 1 run he still gets 2 seed runs.
 
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eastcoastled

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akhiymjames said:
Man y’all just don’t know how much some of these breeders make in a year but it’s only certain ones. Over 100k plus and I don’t think they be paying taxes simply cus it’s still illegal federally. Seedsherenow makes the most simply cus he has the bread to buy all stock and sells at all the cups and events and buys the best gear. Overseas will never be the same since USA banks are so prevelant but yea there are some getting stupid rich
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My comment was geared towards them being legit, and paying taxes. With the IRS you are guilty until proven innocent,they have more power than most people know. If they aren't legit it will be sorted out one day.
 
ganja noob

ganja noob

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whytewidow said:
I work to hard for my.money to buy seeds that herm. I nvr got on the wedding cake hype or purple punch kick. 150 a pack for a chance at getting shit. Why. There are tons n tons of breeders some not mainstream that put out better fire for a whole lot less. Just like back in the day with Cali conn hermie issue. Do your due diligence and dont waste your money. If you really look on IG. You can find smaller breeders that are pulling over 30% thc on worked lines. That blow sjg herm issue outta the water.
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Any recommendations??
 
jwreck

jwreck

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Growers demand seed from a strain - strain has herm tendencies - breeder caves and makes seeds - growers buy seeds with herm genes - grower gets herms - grower mad - grower gets on ig,riu to bitch and complain.
Dont be mad at the breeder at the end of the day if you dont have the means to get clones seeds are your only hope.
Trim and keep a close eye on them eventually youll find something special
 
Thegermling

Thegermling

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jwreck said:
Growers demand seed from a strain - strain has herm tendencies - breeder caves and makes seeds - growers buy seeds with herm genes - grower gets herms - grower mad - grower gets on ig,riu to bitch and complain.
Dont be mad at the breeder at the end of the day if you dont have the means to get clones seeds are your only hope.
Trim and keep a close eye on them eventually youll find something special
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Paying $150 for twelve something seeds is lost money just for the plant to hermie. Hermie genes can be repressed but apparently this breeder doesnt know that (seed junky).
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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If anybody thinks its not possible to get herms from cookie crosses you just don’t know. Nobody has stabilized cookies where no herms show whatsoever in the genes. Yes there are breeders who have crosses that do much much better and not show the tendencies to show herms but anytime you growing anything cookies expect for it to possibly happen. Can’t be mad at breeder cus end of the day you decided to buy the beans and also many factors can make a plant herm. Can we always honestly say that we gave perfect conditions and no stress to the plant whatsoever? I tend to go with on cookies if it’s showing herm tendencies from seed plant it has to be low if it’s high up no go if low I’ll pluck and continue to watch and grow. If many continue to show its a no go if nothing after then I run from clone but nobody should be looking to expect to get no herms if you do great but it’s possible you will see one. Also I do agree tho testing before hand will allow you to make that decision if seeds should be sold. Some of the crosses are 100% herms every female so those are the ones that shouldn’t be available but hype has created the market for people will take chances to get fire
 
714steadyeddie

714steadyeddie

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jwreck said:
Growers demand seed from a strain - strain has herm tendencies - breeder caves and makes seeds - growers buy seeds with herm genes - grower gets herms - grower mad - grower gets on ig,riu to bitch and complain.
Dont be mad at the breeder at the end of the day if you dont have the means to get clones seeds are your only hope.
Trim and keep a close eye on them eventually youll find something special
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That’s some bullshit and something lame ass Jbeezy would say......

At the end of the day breeders use all sorts of “in demand cuts” too breed with, yet their gear doesn’t herm out at a high rate. Look at bodhi , all his females are usually big name cuts that everyone knows but his males are his creation that are stable as fuck.

I understand getting hermies are growers self made errors, but if 75% (maybe more maybe less) of customers are reporting that they are getting 7-9 hermie plants per pack then that’s all on the fucking Breeder. Then to have such a toxic attitude about it when paying customers ask simple questions about his gear is what really pisses me off.

BOTH his fem and regular gear are throwing hermies left and right. Even on the animal mints pack which is Regs, was throwing out hermies.

So the lame excuse that “ growers demand seeds from hermie prone cuts” is a bunch of crap. I read jbeezy typing up that very same excuse on IG.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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714steadyeddie said:
That’s some bullshit and something lame ass Jbeezy would say......

At the end of the day breeders use all sorts of “in demand cuts” too breed with, yet their gear doesn’t herm out at a high rate. Look at bodhi , all his females are usually big name cuts that everyone knows but his males are his creation that are stable as fuck.

I understand getting hermies are growers self made errors, but if 75% (maybe more maybe less) of customers are reporting that they are getting 7-9 hermie plants per pack then that’s all on the fucking Breeder. Then to have such a toxic attitude about it when paying customers ask simple questions about his gear is what really pisses me off.

BOTH his fem and regular gear are throwing hermies left and right. Even on the animal mints pack which is Regs, was throwing out hermies.

So the lame excuse that “ growers demand seeds from hermie prone cuts” is a bunch of crap. I read jbeezy typing up that very same excuse on IG.
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100% agree 7-9 herms per pack is unacceptable. Male selection is key Bodhi is on a different level with male selection but all his males aren’t always his creation but like I said his selection is hat separates him. Nobody compares imho just for the reason you said he uses the big name cuts too and doesn’t have high rate of herms. I would like to see him use the Wedding Cake but obvious he seed junky went wrong somewhere in his male selection and personally I think he went wrong building most of his cookie stock of Animal Cookies that one imho def shows offspring to herm more just like when In House had all the Animal Cookie fems. I haven’t heard much of seed junky OG crosses but hopefully he gets away from cashing in on the hype and focusing on making good beans
 
jwreck

jwreck

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714steadyeddie said:
That’s some bullshit and something lame ass Jbeezy would say......

At the end of the day breeders use all sorts of “in demand cuts” too breed with, yet their gear doesn’t herm out at a high rate. Look at bodhi , all his females are usually big name cuts that everyone knows but his males are his creation that are stable as fuck.

I understand getting hermies are growers self made errors, but if 75% (maybe more maybe less) of customers are reporting that they are getting 7-9 hermie plants per pack then that’s all on the fucking Breeder. Then to have such a toxic attitude about it when paying customers ask simple questions about his gear is what really pisses me off.

BOTH his fem and regular gear are throwing hermies left and right. Even on the animal mints pack which is Regs, was throwing out hermies.

So the lame excuse that “ growers demand seeds from hermie prone cuts” is a bunch of crap. I read jbeezy typing up that very same excuse on IG.
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What male did bodhi create? Wookie,appy,sl and hp13 all came from someone else. He made excellent choices selecting the male thats about it.
Ive heard of herm reports from all breeders bodhi included especially when you take a cut like og sour or cookies that are already prone to hermie and you reverse them to make fems.
 
Vato_504

Vato_504

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To be real. I ran a pack of triangle mints and had problems with germming. Outta 12 3 popped but I got 3 fire females. No herms no balls or nothing. But he did replace the pack with 4 packs. And outta the beans he sent as replacements my potna got a nice male and female. So that’s my experience with JB.
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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Not a whole lotta breeding going on here. So many great and unique strains exist that are unstable and produce a certain amount of intersex offspring.
There doesn't seem to be much incentive to stabilize these genetics when fortunes are being made as is.
Seems logical to me that if a breeder were to devote the time to stabilizing these herm prone genetics, they would get left behind and forgotten about, as the fire chuckers keep the hype train rolling, on the hopes of consumer unobtainium.
If the intersex rate becomes to great, the breeder will get such a bad reputation, that people will eventually move on to someone else, until the problem is fixed.
 
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