seaniken
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I said I got dense, potent nugs. 2 ounces off one plant. That doesnt seem too bad to me at all!
light and airy buds??
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Al B. Fuct
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2oz off one plant with CFLs is indeed not bad at all, but how many CFLs did it take to produce that and how large was the plant?
seaniken
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yeah I had about 8 CFL's on one plant. Quite a bit. I do agree that an HPS would be more efficient. So next time I will use HPS. But for those beginning and dont want to invest in a light setup, I wouldnt be against CFL's. My plant was about 3 1/2 ft tall. CFL's just suck cuz you have to adjust them ALL THE TIME.
2smoke4bud7
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how many times do you water you flowering plants with molasses through out the 6 weeks of feeding?
Al B. Fuct
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Approximately none. Plants can't use sugars as a nutrient.
Al B. Fuct
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I wasn't aware that 'we' suggest that molasses and nothing else is useful.
Molasses is sucrose, same as table sugar. Not a point that requires any further dissection, really.
Molasses is sucrose, same as table sugar. Not a point that requires any further dissection, really.
calicat
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If you have access to a hydro store then purchase molasses that is unsulpherated. How you use it would be 2 tablespoons for every gallon of water from the third week of flowering till finish. I have a friend that uses grandma's syrup if you do not have any hydro stores in your area. best of luck.
Al B. Fuct
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Plants can't use sugars as a nutrient. They will only feed microbes and pathogens. Sugars should not be used in a hydro system.
NASTYRUDEDOGG
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plants do benefit from molasses in the water. Somehow, someway, it does help. CASE CLOSED!
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
'case closed' because you say so, hm? I don't think so.
There's absolutely no peer-reviewed botanical evidence that plants can use sugars as a nutrient. There's as much evidence to suggest plants can use petrol as a fertiliser.
If you can find reliable botanical or horticultural evidence indicating that plants can use sugars as a nutrient, by all means, post them here.
Plants are biological systems which have evolved to adapt to available conditions and nutrients. If there were natural deposits of sugars anywhere on this earth (that faster moving critters like insects and animals had not gotten to first), you would find a plant that has adapted to feed on them. So, if there's a strain of plant that is indigenous to the much fabled Great Sugar Lake in Bumfuck, Egypt, that's the plant you would feed molasses. I'm not aware of any strains of cannabis that are native to that region, but you might hit Wikipedia, there's sure to be something on the topic there.
Sugars are especially problematic in hydroponic systems. Pathogen access to a tank of nutes is much easier than to a sugar solution in soil. Common results are colonies of mould, exacerbatiuon of root problems, attraction of insects, etc.
There's absolutely no peer-reviewed botanical evidence that plants can use sugars as a nutrient. There's as much evidence to suggest plants can use petrol as a fertiliser.
If you can find reliable botanical or horticultural evidence indicating that plants can use sugars as a nutrient, by all means, post them here.
Plants are biological systems which have evolved to adapt to available conditions and nutrients. If there were natural deposits of sugars anywhere on this earth (that faster moving critters like insects and animals had not gotten to first), you would find a plant that has adapted to feed on them. So, if there's a strain of plant that is indigenous to the much fabled Great Sugar Lake in Bumfuck, Egypt, that's the plant you would feed molasses. I'm not aware of any strains of cannabis that are native to that region, but you might hit Wikipedia, there's sure to be something on the topic there.
Sugars are especially problematic in hydroponic systems. Pathogen access to a tank of nutes is much easier than to a sugar solution in soil. Common results are colonies of mould, exacerbatiuon of root problems, attraction of insects, etc.
NASTYRUDEDOGG
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Al b fuct. Chill out man, I never said plants use sugar, okay. But it does seem to feed the organisms in soil to provide more nutrients available for uptake by plants. I can just imagine you looking exactly like your avatar, all pissed off smoking a joint. Why don't you have a couple of beers and chill out, okay. CASE CLOSED!
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
I'm not pissed off. However, when you put up a post that contradicts what I have just said (with a basis in botanical science evidence) and does so on the basis of your say so alone with no supporting evidence, with your demand that the discussion be halted, don't expect me to remain silent.
Don't tell me I'm wrong, prove me wrong.
Don't tell me I'm wrong, prove me wrong.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
You can very easily add P & K with flowering supplements that contain them, without adding things that can cause problems.
NASTYRUDEDOGG
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Al B Fuct, do you not agree with the fact that molasses benefits the micro organisms that in turn aid in the process of flower prodution of the cannabis plant? 
genfranco
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al b fuct is making more sense these days..... lol...j/k al b.... so yeah it feeds the micro organisms and in turn they feed off your dead roots so in turn you have a healthier plant that drinks better?... Anyway... I agree 100% as far as in hydroponics..... me and al b already hit this theme up before and honestly he seems like a very edjucated person... likes to read and shit... maybe its just a wives tale... like beer or cig butts in your soil....in any case.. what i say that if people find it that it works ...then it does... my only problem with al b is that he isnt even willing to try for himself in 1 single plant and compare to the rest of his forest that he no doubt im sure has.... al b really seems pasionate about this molasses thing.. he has allot of good info in him.... i think this is just one of those pet peeves... al b just do a side by side on 1 plant and then youll have your own answere as if it magically helps or not... these people use it and it works for them ....so why knock it...
good luck all
good luck all
NASTYRUDEDOGG
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Come on man just do a comparison with 1 plant, I'm sure it won't hurt and who knows you may just increase your yield. General, this guy does seem to know his shit but how much more can he learn if he's got a closed mind and is so adament about not doing a trial.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
There should be no microbes in a proper inorganic hydroponic system. There's no need for them. We're not dealing with an orchid that absolutely relies on a fungus found in the roots of certain trees.Al B Fuct, do you not agree with the fact that molasses benefits the micro organisms that in turn aid in the process of flower prodution of the cannabis plant?
H2O2 takes that role in hydrooponics.
I have zero evidence before me that plants can use sugars as a nutrient. I have the same amount of evidence supporting the use of petrol as a fertiliser. Should I try some petrol, too? How many ml/L?
I've said it before, I don't have to jump off a cliff to prove I can't fly.
My mind is not closed. I am open to any real botanical science- that's the rules these things operate under, not wives tales.
Tricks
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I cut a K2 a week ago wich was fluffy as hell. Grew under 2x 400 watt hps, dunno wtf happend. Same light has a BB under it thats 2 weeks behind that K2 and the buds on that BB are rock hard. Got 3 more under that same light, but there only 4 weeks into flower. All plants r on the same feeding and watering schedule.
First time that happend, pulled a K2 before this one and its buds where very dense. Had a small gnat problem for about 2 weeks, but dont think that hurt it too bad.
First time that happend, pulled a K2 before this one and its buds where very dense. Had a small gnat problem for about 2 weeks, but dont think that hurt it too bad.