Swami Seeds

newgrow16

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Sounds like severe stress caused intersex...as I recently ran through 30 females with zero issues...got 4 keepers.

1 part peat moss
1 part high quality compost
1 part pumice or perlite

Cherry Bomb x BOH may have something...feminized by stress..that's how ya do it.

1 cup fish meal per cubic foot
1 cup kelp meal per cubic foot
1 cup basalt rock dust per cubic foot
1 cup oyster shell powder cubic foot

That's it,use forever,re ammed with same or like food sources.
Do not use bottled nutes,or chlorinated water.
I am sure that you are correct, severe stress seems to be my story lately.
Thank you for the soil menu, as I have been struggling using bagged soils and am just starting storage bins for reusing and getting more organic.

And although I would rather not stress plants, some feminized BOH and a fem cherry bomb x boh are definitely okay with me!
 

Bringdemfya

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Hey Gas.

Can you tell me the Growth Characteristics, Production, and High of the BLISS, YOGI vs the Blue Orca Haze.

Which produces the best, and which is the most potent??

A. Bliss may be best producer,we cleared 1lb per plant in a light dep. There are Blue Orca Haze phenotypes that definitely do as well. I had one for a a few years that consistently gave me 1/2 pound in a 5 gallon pot.

Fastest growing?

A. Most of these types are similar in growth time.
The Bliss currently the fastest,my cut finishes nicely at 56 days. There are definitely these in the Yogi too.

Flowering Time???

A. Some NL5/haze phenotypes will finish around 55 days,the more sativa phenotypes which dominate the NL5/Haze hybrids and of course have longer flowering times.
I once took a nl/5haze 80 days easy.

What is the taste of the Bliss/Yogi?

A. Bliss is heavy haze orientated in flavor,Yogi has similar yet fruity subtleties.

Which 1 would you smoke, and then not go out in public?

A. None,but some have severe disorientation effects that most wouldn't go out in public after a sesh... Nl5haze,BOH for example.

Im also Really, Really interested in the NL5 x Hz, and my buddies also have it going, and the plants look killer from what they tell me. Really nice. Should be done before Christmas.

A.These are the real deal nl5/haze,everything about them is all they ever were and will be. Caution should be taken operating machinery.



Also probably Yogi. It would be nice to have a full report on them

A. Bliss sets me right brotherman. Lots of cbd/cbn and no ceiling on the head...usually a bowl is all I need at any one time.
Good for stress as well.

Yogi is more medicinal,similar to the Bliss in effect,yet has a richer cbd/cbn effect and still a decent head. Good smoke for recovery from injury.



A dried Yogi nug,and Blue Orca Haze big yeilder...

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InfiniteDreams

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Sounds like severe stress caused intersex...as I recently ran through 30 females with zero issues...got 4 keepers.

1 part peat moss
1 part high quality compost
1 part pumice or perlite

Cherry Bomb x BOH may have something...feminized by stress..that's how ya do it.

1 cup fish meal per cubic foot
1 cup kelp meal per cubic foot
1 cup basalt rock dust per cubic foot
1 cup oyster shell powder cubic foot

That's it,use forever,re ammed with same or like food sources.
Do not use bottled nutes,or chlorinated water.
How long will that carry the plants...all the way through Veg & Flower? Say we did a 2 months Veg, and 2-3 months of flower? 4-5 months is that realistic, or will AACT(actively aerated compost teas) be required? Curious....new and want to learn.

Also, what is the shelf life of seeds if they're stored in a cool (room temperature), dark, dry place? Curious as I would like to stock up on some Swami Gear.

I want to try them all! :weed:
 

Bringdemfya

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How long will that carry the plants...all the way through Veg & Flower? Say we did a 2 months Veg, and 2-3 months of flower? 4-5 months is that realistic, or will AACT(actively aerated compost teas) be required? Curious....new and want to learn.

Also, what is the shelf life of seeds if they're stored in a cool (room temperature), dark, dry place? Curious as I would like to stock up on some Swami Gear.


I want to try them all! :weed:
The soil mix posted will be water only for the first full round. Yes,supplement with ACT,SST,comfrey,fish,kelp,nettle,borage,etc..if need be.


Seeds are generally viable for 5 years considering no special storage procedures. To save indefinitely,put in insulated storage container and freeze. ..a pill bottle and a wrap with bubble mailer,or like material as insulation.
 

kristoffolese

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How long will that carry the plants...all the way through Veg & Flower? Say we did a 2 months Veg, and 2-3 months of flower? 4-5 months is that realistic, or will AACT(actively aerated compost teas) be required? Curious....new and want to learn.

Also, what is the shelf life of seeds if they're stored in a cool (room temperature), dark, dry place? Curious as I would like to stock up on some Swami Gear.

I want to try them all! :weed:
I wanna throw in my 2cents... using a standard “Coots mix”, with high quality castings,properly aged/seasoned compost (comphrey, nettle, composted leaves w/black leaf mold my fav mix) sphagnum peat, pummice- or whatever u preferfor aeration & all the amendment goodies - basalt rock powder, neam meal, karanja, brown algae kelp, ground barley malt, etc-
Not only does this do a fantastic job, start to finish- but its also an excellent “anti-baddies” mix, proving highly resistant to bugs, bad fungi/molds & harmful microbes, etc. Imo, there isnt a bottled feed line that exists that can match the results that a properly mixed & ammended soil can. Potency, complexity of effect, terp profile, smoothness are all top notch, & noticeably superior to bottled feed lines... & Ive tried a LOOOT of dif feed lines, going on 3 decades now. It gets better each season/cycle you use it, its way cheaper, & u dont need to mix & measure feed all the time. Just water & the occasional tea.
Also - Gas is 100%, absolutely correct when he says that the Swami Organic Seed co has the real deal, “what did you put in this?!” Nl5 x Haze lol Coming to the end of our 1st run. No official smoke report yet, most are still finishing... but from what we’ve pulled of the drying rack so far, I can say that the quality in certain phenos is both deceiving & obvious. Deceiving in that the bud doesnt LOOK, or even smell as good as its effect is... obvious in that its effect is so “grab you by the face & brain” strong, it cant be denied by anyone who smokes it. Now, there ARE stanky, & more resinous phenos in the big room, still growing, but so far, the strongest potency has come from the plainest, lowest smellling girl... watch out!
 

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kristoffolese

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I wanna throw in my 2cents... using a standard “Coots mix”, with high quality castings,properly aged/seasoned compost (comphrey, nettle, composted leaves w/black leaf mold my fav mix) sphagnum peat, pummice- or whatever u preferfor aeration & all the amendment goodies - basalt rock powder, neam meal, karanja, brown algae kelp, ground barley malt, etc-
Not only does this do a fantastic job, start to finish- but its also an excellent “anti-baddies” mix, proving highly resistant to bugs, bad fungi/molds & harmful microbes, etc. Imo, there isnt a bottled feed line that exists that can match the results that a properly mixed & ammended soil can. Potency, complexity of effect, terp profile, smoothness are all top notch, & noticeably superior to bottled feed lines... & Ive tried a LOOOT of dif feed lines, going on 3 decades now. It gets better each season/cycle you use it, its way cheaper, & u dont need to mix & measure feed all the time. Just water & the occasional tea.
Also - Gas is 100%, absolutely correct when he says that the Swami Organic Seed co has the real deal, “what did you put in this?!” Nl5 x Haze lol Coming to the end of our 1st run. No official smoke report yet, most are still finishing... but from what we’ve pulled of the drying rack so far, I can say that the quality in certain phenos is both deceiving & obvious. Deceiving in that the bud doesnt LOOK, or even smell as good as its effect is... obvious in that its effect is so “grab you by the face & brain” strong, it cant be denied by anyone who smokes it. Now, there ARE stanky, & more resinous phenos in the big room, still growing, but so far, the strongest potency has come from the plainest, lowest smellling girl... watch out!
Also wanted to add that some girls exhibit the occasional “smooth pod” shaped calyx, that can be easy to mistake for a banana/herm. If you look closely at the closeup pic, u can see a hair coming out of one of em. Anyway, a partner was freakin’ out over it, so I wanted to pass on that its fine - its just a unique growth style that pops up in some landraces and certain old school strains.
 

bobdagrowah

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I wanna throw in my 2cents... using a standard “Coots mix”, with high quality castings,properly aged/seasoned compost (comphrey, nettle, composted leaves w/black leaf mold my fav mix) sphagnum peat, pummice- or whatever u preferfor aeration & all the amendment goodies - basalt rock powder, neam meal, karanja, brown algae kelp, ground barley malt, etc-
Not only does this do a fantastic job, start to finish- but its also an excellent “anti-baddies” mix, proving highly resistant to bugs, bad fungi/molds & harmful microbes, etc. Imo, there isnt a bottled feed line that exists that can match the results that a properly mixed & ammended soil can. Potency, complexity of effect, terp profile, smoothness are all top notch, & noticeably superior to bottled feed lines... & Ive tried a LOOOT of dif feed lines, going on 3 decades now. It gets better each season/cycle you use it, its way cheaper, & u dont need to mix & measure feed all the time. Just water & the occasional tea.
Also - Gas is 100%, absolutely correct when he says that the Swami Organic Seed co has the real deal, “what did you put in this?!” Nl5 x Haze lol Coming to the end of our 1st run. No official smoke report yet, most are still finishing... but from what we’ve pulled of the drying rack so far, I can say that the quality in certain phenos is both deceiving & obvious. Deceiving in that the bud doesnt LOOK, or even smell as good as its effect is... obvious in that its effect is so “grab you by the face & brain” strong, it cant be denied by anyone who smokes it. Now, there ARE stanky, & more resinous phenos in the big room, still growing, but so far, the strongest potency has come from the plainest, lowest smellling girl... watch out!

How long did you let the nl x nh 5 go for
 

kristoffolese

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How long did you let the nl x nh 5 go for
Tricky question - Firstly- Im referring ONLY to Swami Organic Seed co’s genuine article, real McCoy Nl5 X Neville’s Haze. I believe its currently F5 from their 91’ line.
So... its important to understand that Gas & co, use a breeding practice called “open field pollination”, instead of the usual “Best looking male X best looking female” style of breeding. While the latter can be a good to produce homogeny & uniformity, the open field pollination style is better for keeping ALL of a strain’s characteristics in tact in future generations. EXACTLY what the serious grower & aspiring breeder wants :) Now while this keeps the next level, legendary effects in tact in the line, it’s important to realize that it can take some pheno hunting to get what youre after. Just be sure that u take one or 2 clones off of EVERYTHING u send into flower. When your harvest is in, dried & cured, u can decide on which are keepers that u want & toss the clones from phenos that didnt make it to “keeper” status.
This is a looong way of saying that there is a very wide range of flowering times in the Swami Nl Haze line. I see this as a great thing. You want a shorter flowering, more indica leaning girl? Its in there, just select for it. You prefer the powerfully intense, sativa dominant, classic NL5 X Haze rushy, racing high? Its in there :) So far, of the girls we’ve run, we have had 100% germination, one mutant & a ~2/3 female to male ratio. ~10% of females were obvious indica dominant phenos, both of them ripened in under 9weeks. But tbh, while good, the small bushy, quick flowering pheno is my least fav pheno so far. ~1/4females are looking like straight sativas. Most of the rest are sativa dominant, but with various obvious Indica influences. All the straight sativas are going 12 weeks+ & are still growing. Harvested 2 more of the “hybrid” pheno ladies this morning... Speaking of which, I want to recommend a certain pheno that we were lucky enough to find... its a sativa dominant pheno, thin sativa leaves, but without the height that her more sativa sisters have. Smell is very unique, & Im excited about the effect... she’s special. Now, the only sample Ive smoked of it so far, is a quick dried bud I clipped at the beginning of her harvest window over a week ago. The smell/taste is an extremely strong, bitter skunk, very difficult to describe... Reminds me of bitter Mediterranean herbs w/oil & vinegar... an acrid, pungent, skunk scent is layered beneath the initial nose scrunching bitterness, with definite spicey, sweet incense & woody notes blended in. But the awesomely unique and strong smell/taste is just the gravy on top :) Our excitement comes from how F’ing strong this gal is... I love when you take that first hit & instantly KNOW you have something special. Well, that’s definitely the case here :D Had 4 other ppl try it, and got 2 ppl saying it was among the strongest theyd smoked. I cant wait to sample the fully ripened, properly cured version! To those not used to growing the oldies, be careful... even plants that dont LOOK or SMELL like they are anything but “meh” quality, can be deceptively intense, effect-wise. So dont freak out if you arent running double rails of frost down every sugar leaf... her magic is in her effect. Definitely have some frosty phenos in there. But just be patient... Ive noticed these ladies like to frost up late, and seemingly all at once. This is connoisseur grade smoke... not for the grower trying for quick finishing “show bud”, that has great bag appeal, tons of resin, but average effect. Seems like the markets flooded with “show bud” pot :/ No, Swami’s NL Haze is for the grower who wants the best, who doesnt mind putting in a little work to tease out some next level, hippy head stash gear :)
 

kristoffolese

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Tricky question - Firstly- Im referring ONLY to Swami Organic Seed co’s genuine article, real McCoy Nl5 X Neville’s Haze. I believe its currently F5 from their 91’ line.
So... its important to understand that Gas & co, use a breeding practice called “open field pollination”, instead of the usual “Best looking male X best looking female” style of breeding. While the latter can be a good to produce homogeny & uniformity, the open field pollination style is better for keeping ALL of a strain’s characteristics in tact in future generations. EXACTLY what the serious grower & aspiring breeder wants :) Now while this keeps the next level, legendary effects in tact in the line, it’s important to realize that it can take some pheno hunting to get what youre after. Just be sure that u take one or 2 clones off of EVERYTHING u send into flower. When your harvest is in, dried & cured, u can decide on which are keepers that u want & toss the clones from phenos that didnt make it to “keeper” status.
This is a looong way of saying that there is a very wide range of flowering times in the Swami Nl Haze line. I see this as a great thing. You want a shorter flowering, more indica leaning girl? Its in there, just select for it. You prefer the powerfully intense, sativa dominant, classic NL5 X Haze rushy, racing high? Its in there :) So far, of the girls we’ve run, we have had 100% germination, one mutant & a ~2/3 female to male ratio. ~10% of females were obvious indica dominant phenos, both of them ripened in under 9weeks. But tbh, while good, the small bushy, quick flowering pheno is my least fav pheno so far. ~1/4females are looking like straight sativas. Most of the rest are sativa dominant, but with various obvious Indica influences. All the straight sativas are going 12 weeks+ & are still growing. Harvested 2 more of the “hybrid” pheno ladies this morning... Speaking of which, I want to recommend a certain pheno that we were lucky enough to find... its a sativa dominant pheno, thin sativa leaves, but without the height that her more sativa sisters have. Smell is very unique, & Im excited about the effect... she’s special. Now, the only sample Ive smoked of it so far, is a quick dried bud I clipped at the beginning of her harvest window over a week ago. The smell/taste is an extremely strong, bitter skunk, very difficult to describe... Reminds me of bitter Mediterranean herbs w/oil & vinegar... an acrid, pungent, skunk scent is layered beneath the initial nose scrunching bitterness, with definite spicey, sweet incense & woody notes blended in. But the awesomely unique and strong smell/taste is just the gravy on top :) Our excitement comes from how F’ing strong this gal is... I love when you take that first hit & instantly KNOW you have something special. Well, that’s definitely the case here :D Had 4 other ppl try it, and got 2 ppl saying it was among the strongest theyd smoked. I cant wait to sample the fully ripened, properly cured version! To those not used to growing the oldies, be careful... even plants that dont LOOK or SMELL like they are anything but “meh” quality, can be deceptively intense, effect-wise. So dont freak out if you arent running double rails of frost down every sugar leaf... her magic is in her effect. Definitely have some frosty phenos in there. But just be patient... Ive noticed these ladies like to frost up late, and seemingly all at once. This is connoisseur grade smoke... not for the grower trying for quick finishing “show bud”, that has great bag appeal, tons of resin, but average effect. Seems like the markets flooded with “show bud” pot :/ No, Swami’s NL Haze is for the grower who wants the best, who doesnt mind putting in a little work to tease out some next level, hippy head stash gear :)
Disclaimer- The girls in the big room grow with a standard coots mix, with compost tea & water only, and are obvioisly superior to the few that are in FFOF soil under a bottled feed regiment.
I also want to point out that we supplement with high levels of UVB lighting during the final 2-4 weeks of flowering, and this DOES make a significant, noticeable difference in potency. So just an fyi, your results may vary if you grow differently. Also noticing better quality in the girls we sexually matured before flowering, compared to those flowered from seed & highly trained. So far, our results are better with the girls we gave time & space to, than with the girls we immediately flowered & trained hard. Ive noticed this before in some strains... Golden Goat was one... the beauties we just topped & lollypopped, & let develop pre-flowers before flowering, were of noticeable higher quality than when we SOG’d her. Seeing that here... I highly rec letting her veg at least 4 weeks before flipping her.
 

kristoffolese

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Disclaimer- The girls in the big room grow with a standard coots mix, with compost tea & water only, and are obvioisly superior to the few that are in FFOF soil under a bottled feed regiment.
I also want to point out that we supplement with high levels of UVB lighting during the final 2-4 weeks of flowering, and this DOES make a significant, noticeable difference in potency. So just an fyi, your results may vary if you grow differently. Also noticing better quality in the girls we sexually matured before flowering, compared to those flowered from seed & highly trained. So far, our results are better with the girls we gave time & space to, than with the girls we immediately flowered & trained hard. Ive noticed this before in some strains... Golden Goat was one... the beauties we just topped & lollypopped, & let develop pre-flowers before flowering, were of noticeable higher quality than when we SOG’d her. Seeing that here... I highly rec letting her veg at least 4 weeks before flipping her.
To Gas- working with a group of vets here, paying it forward best I can... was asked to pass on a “thank you” message, sooo...
“Thank you so very much from the Spokane VFW! A lot of genuine suffering being relieved. So much appreciation from Terry, Wolfman & friends”. Currently working to breed in some of Adam Jacques high cbd genetics into ur super fire ;)
 

InfiniteDreams

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Sent off for BHO & nl5haze today, have to give these two a try this year. :bigjoint:

Right now RKS is the main priority..the quest for the 'Holy Grail' if you will :leaf:. Many are adamant RKS is extinct, and gone forever, breeded into oblivion...

Germination rate thus far is 100% ( 3 RKS/TO and 3 RKS/BO). As other have pointed out the internode spacing, and structure is extremely impressive. Extremely vigorous...

Looking forward to future lines...chocolate Thai, and the spring for RKS.

I have to think whoever does procure the RKS will have a goldmine on their hands as we see countless threads by old schoolers looking for this long lost exotic phenotype. I feel foolish for thinking Skunk terpene was prevalent and would be around forever...
 

InfiniteDreams

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will there be any pre-ordering?
My thoughts exactly! I CANNOT miss out on this...(Get in line BEHIND me Sour Wreck:finger: _LOL...Just Kidding! Only Teasing!:mrgreen:)

Already worried someone is going to buy out the whole lot.

Just thinking out loud here, but as a breeder it would bother me if I was to release a strain, another breeder buys it and then mass produces it, and sells it under a different name making money hand over fist on something I had worked hard to perfect and nurture to perfection. Pretty Brutal...can't help to think that may be part of the problem and why breeders keep things close to their vest.

I have to think that as the landscape changes with regard to recreational use worldwide, someone...somewhere...has RKS seeds tucked away, and it will be released back, and made available to the general public.

The sooner the better.

What I like about Swami is the mantra "People over Profits"...that is a breeder I can get behind.:peace::leaf::joint:

Hopefully, we all see RKS in the spring because it would truly be a blessing.
 
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kristoffolese

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Update on the NL5 X Haze... another girl came down. Still drying, but the wet trim produced a decent bowl of finger hash... and HOLY SHIT was it strong! Idk what the thc % or any of that... just that the EFFECT was ridiculously intense. Sooooo racey, damn! Pounding, racing heart, explosions of tingly rushy feelings shooting up & outward from the chest with every heart beat. Gripping on the face & mouth - sort of “headband-ish” in how much you feel it in ur face, mouth & head... I admit is was a wake and bake, and finger hash is obviously on a level above flower... but it was just straight scissor-scrapings. No acetone/alcohol wash or anything. Seriously though, it was def one of the top 20 (cannabis) highs for me, ALL TIME. Everyone dropped out before the bowl was finished, myself included - 3 bong hits wrecked me. Im obviously a heavily tolerant smoker, and even still - I couldnt bare the thought of going out into public - something that simply never happens to me anymore... THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH Swami & Gas! Ive wasted so much fucking time & money looking for this EXACT gear. Mr Nice, Greenhouse, Reserva Prevada - not knocking them as companies or anything... but Im sorry, their NL5xHaze offerings are total bullshit compared to these godesses from Swami Organic Seed co. SOOO HAPPY!
And I know Ive said it before, but dont be discouraged if ur only running 5-10 seeds and u dont find a keeper... Swami did a dynamite job keeping the bulk of the NL5 Haze genetic in tact. That means that the goodness IS in there... but it needs to be selected for. Ur simply not going to sow 20 seeds, get 10 females & have them all be homogenous keepers. Saying a genetic is “stable”, is really, the same as saying that its been bred into a genetic bottle-neck. With so many breeders going the “homogeneous, stable as possible” route, I worry about what traits, terps & unknown actors are being bred out :( So have faith & believe... I am THRILLED with the results of the couple dozen we’ve popped (total, spread over 3 gardens), but while we DID get at least 2 keepers (probably 3 - looking at you, skunky sativa pheno!), we culled 1 mutant in seedling stage, ~half dozen in veg & of the girls we have/are harvesting, most wont be back next cycle. You WILL get non-keepers, is my point - is I dont want anyone to miss out in this, because they grew out a few seeds, didnt get anything special & so assume its a BS line. It is the REAL DEAL. Have faith... I PROMISE you wont be disappointed
 

newgrow16

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Tricky question - Firstly- Im referring ONLY to Swami Organic Seed co’s genuine article, real McCoy Nl5 X Neville’s Haze. I believe its currently F5 from their 91’ line.
So... its important to understand that Gas & co, use a breeding practice called “open field pollination”, instead of the usual “Best looking male X best looking female” style of breeding. While the latter can be a good to produce homogeny & uniformity, the open field pollination style is better for keeping ALL of a strain’s characteristics in tact in future generations. EXACTLY what the serious grower & aspiring breeder wants :) Now while this keeps the next level, legendary effects in tact in the line, it’s important to realize that it can take some pheno hunting to get what youre after. Just be sure that u take one or 2 clones off of EVERYTHING u send into flower. When your harvest is in, dried & cured, u can decide on which are keepers that u want & toss the clones from phenos that didnt make it to “keeper” status.
This is a looong way of saying that there is a very wide range of flowering times in the Swami Nl Haze line. I see this as a great thing. You want a shorter flowering, more indica leaning girl? Its in there, just select for it. You prefer the powerfully intense, sativa dominant, classic NL5 X Haze rushy, racing high? Its in there :) So far, of the girls we’ve run, we have had 100% germination, one mutant & a ~2/3 female to male ratio. ~10% of females were obvious indica dominant phenos, both of them ripened in under 9weeks. But tbh, while good, the small bushy, quick flowering pheno is my least fav pheno so far. ~1/4females are looking like straight sativas. Most of the rest are sativa dominant, but with various obvious Indica influences. All the straight sativas are going 12 weeks+ & are still growing. Harvested 2 more of the “hybrid” pheno ladies this morning... Speaking of which, I want to recommend a certain pheno that we were lucky enough to find... its a sativa dominant pheno, thin sativa leaves, but without the height that her more sativa sisters have. Smell is very unique, & Im excited about the effect... she’s special. Now, the only sample Ive smoked of it so far, is a quick dried bud I clipped at the beginning of her harvest window over a week ago. The smell/taste is an extremely strong, bitter skunk, very difficult to describe... Reminds me of bitter Mediterranean herbs w/oil & vinegar... an acrid, pungent, skunk scent is layered beneath the initial nose scrunching bitterness, with definite spicey, sweet incense & woody notes blended in. But the awesomely unique and strong smell/taste is just the gravy on top :) Our excitement comes from how F’ing strong this gal is... I love when you take that first hit & instantly KNOW you have something special. Well, that’s definitely the case here :D Had 4 other ppl try it, and got 2 ppl saying it was among the strongest theyd smoked. I cant wait to sample the fully ripened, properly cured version! To those not used to growing the oldies, be careful... even plants that dont LOOK or SMELL like they are anything but “meh” quality, can be deceptively intense, effect-wise. So dont freak out if you arent running double rails of frost down every sugar leaf... her magic is in her effect. Definitely have some frosty phenos in there. But just be patient... Ive noticed these ladies like to frost up late, and seemingly all at once. This is connoisseur grade smoke... not for the grower trying for quick finishing “show bud”, that has great bag appeal, tons of resin, but average effect. Seems like the markets flooded with “show bud” pot :/ No, Swami’s NL Haze is for the grower who wants the best, who doesnt mind putting in a little work to tease out some next level, hippy head stash gear :)
Growing from seed in hope of providing my own medicine, not able to have perpetual yet. I smoke what I grow so having different Phenos can be a nice change, usually, one flower is better and disappears quickly! Thanks for the nice genetics, maybe I won't stress my next grow as much.
 

thisusernameisnottaken

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Update on the NL5 X Haze... another girl came down. Still drying, but the wet trim produced a decent bowl of finger hash... and HOLY SHIT was it strong! Idk what the thc % or any of that... just that the EFFECT was ridiculously intense. Sooooo racey, damn! Pounding, racing heart, explosions of tingly rushy feelings shooting up & outward from the chest with every heart beat. Gripping on the face & mouth - sort of “headband-ish” in how much you feel it in ur face, mouth & head... I admit is was a wake and bake, and finger hash is obviously on a level above flower... but it was just straight scissor-scrapings. No acetone/alcohol wash or anything. Seriously though, it was def one of the top 20 (cannabis) highs for me, ALL TIME. Everyone dropped out before the bowl was finished, myself included - 3 bong hits wrecked me. Im obviously a heavily tolerant smoker, and even still - I couldnt bare the thought of going out into public - something that simply never happens to me anymore... THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH Swami & Gas! Ive wasted so much fucking time & money looking for this EXACT gear. Mr Nice, Greenhouse, Reserva Prevada - not knocking them as companies or anything... but Im sorry, their NL5xHaze offerings are total bullshit compared to these godesses from Swami Organic Seed co. SOOO HAPPY!
And I know Ive said it before, but dont be discouraged if ur only running 5-10 seeds and u dont find a keeper... Swami did a dynamite job keeping the bulk of the NL5 Haze genetic in tact. That means that the goodness IS in there... but it needs to be selected for. Ur simply not going to sow 20 seeds, get 10 females & have them all be homogenous keepers. Saying a genetic is “stable”, is really, the same as saying that its been bred into a genetic bottle-neck. With so many breeders going the “homogeneous, stable as possible” route, I worry about what traits, terps & unknown actors are being bred out :( So have faith & believe... I am THRILLED with the results of the couple dozen we’ve popped (total, spread over 3 gardens), but while we DID get at least 2 keepers (probably 3 - looking at you, skunky sativa pheno!), we culled 1 mutant in seedling stage, ~half dozen in veg & of the girls we have/are harvesting, most wont be back next cycle. You WILL get non-keepers, is my point - is I dont want anyone to miss out in this, because they grew out a few seeds, didnt get anything special & so assume its a BS line. It is the REAL DEAL. Have faith... I PROMISE you wont be disappointed
There is also a indica version, you know anything about it?
 

kristoffolese

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How much uvb you talking about
Reptisun isnt enough uvb, neither is the 1 or 2 diodes included in narrow band chinese LEDs. You need to get an arcadia brand t-5 fixture, and be sure to use the 14% UVB bulbs. They have to be RIGHT over the plant you wanna boost thc & resin production in. Unfortunately, the uvb dissipates fast - the lower buds will show no apparent effect, but the tops are OBVIOUSLY blessed with increased resin & thc production. I prop mine at ~a 45degree angle, to avoid blocking light from above. Best use is with a light rail, imo. I have seen zero additional benefit using UVB during veg or even during the first half of flowering. Plants that received it for the duration of flowering, showed the same - but not more- resin & thc production as the girls who only received uvb during the last few weeks of flowering. To save $, I only use them for the last 3 weeks of flower myself. It IS real, though. I live in WA where weed is legal (I LOVE THE FUTURE!!! Lol) and am able to walk in and submit samples to 360-Analytics, for thca & thc, testing which happens to be down the road from me. Havent done a properly controlled uvb experiment in years, but when I had the $ for it (its $25+ to test each sample, depending whatvu want - terpine analysis, cbg, cbn, molds, fungi, etc), I was seeing 3-5% bump to thcs, & an obvious to the eyes, increase in resin production. No change in flowering times noticed. And when I say “3-5%”, I mean 21% thca, increasing to 24-26%... not just 3% of the total, if that makes sense. Generally, its about a 15-25% increase in potency, seen in the uvb treated tops. I also wanna mention- topping & ScrOGing short Indicas lends itself PERFECTLY to this method. When the plant is only 12”-18” tall, and is basically just a mass of 9” colas, every bud can be hit with uvb, and the entire yield is equally killer. With anything past 18” tall or so, the mid-bottom buds just arent getting enough uvb to matter as much. Best results with a light rail, using very short plants, topped and ScrOGed so that no one top is taller than another. I used to keep this shit secret at all costs, as it really does give you an edge over those who arent using it. But as Ive aged & matured, Ive evolved my thinking & believe that useful info should be shared freely. This is VERY useful info & I highly encourage those who havent tried it, to do a side by side & see for themselves. Its maybe $75-$85 for the T-5 fixture plus the 16%uvb bulb. Not sure of the current price, its been a while since I bought one. Bulbs are in the $30-$35 range.
 
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