5x Cheese bag seed 9weeks 12/12'ready for flush or not?

kaydeezee

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Like the title states, we're 9weeks 12/12 and roughly 7&1/2 weeks since the start of flowering.

I don't know the exact origins of these bag seed only that it's defiantly cheese of sorts. The flowers smell very much like sweet cheese the first 5 weeks then a deep more musky skunk smell.

I've grown these girls in 1gal fabric pots canna coco using gh 3part for veg and transition' then moved into flowering with a 1part coco feed called ionic bloom.

Last 7days I've used a finishing product high in PK & MG with a little sulfur called SHOGUN dragon force.

Lighting/ventilation

250watt mh (veg) 250watt hps (flower)(open hood) &170w marshy do old version (3w diodes)
4"240cfm fan & 5" pro filter 350cfm
16"oscillating fan
2x6" clip fans

PPM never more than 700 @.5 conv PH has drifted from 5.6 to 5.9 in VEG
5.8 to 6.2.

Haven't had any problems with bugs but have had a little calcium Def on 2 plants directly under the LED this past 2 weeks since dropping the calmag.

My question i's should start the flush now?
I've been giving the coco a flush every 21days in flower with FLORA CLEAN to leach out salt build up and the ph has always stabilised once I've done this?

Here are a few shots of the past few days:
Week 7/8 flower20171125_123525.jpg 20171126_090101.jpg 20171125_123544.jpg 20171125_123457.jpg 20171123_174651.jpg

I was planning in a 10day flush of just plain ph tap water with a ppm of 180 and no watering the last couple days to really dry out the coco & plant, that would take me to just under 11weeks 12/12 and 9weeks full flowering?
 

coreywebster

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Personally I don't see the need to flush. But they look like they have a little bit more swelling to go and more hair receding.
I would reduce nutrients so your not depriving the plant.
I chuck water only through my coco for last few days just to leach the medium ready for reuse.

If your gona flush your gona flush, I'm not gona argue about that.

But your plants do look cracking mate, a job well done.
 

kaydeezee

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Personally I don't see the need to flush. But they look like they have a little bit more swelling to go and more hair receding.
I would reduce nutrients so your not depriving the plant.
I chuck water only through my coco for last few days just to leach the medium ready for reuse.

If your gona flush your gona flush, I'm not gona argue about that.

But your plants do look cracking mate, a job well done.
Thanks for your honest words.
I'm still learning even though I've grown MJ plants for over 2years consistently with very few problems Im still trying to get it compleatly right in terms of flavour/smell and balanced high?my patience is the one thing I'm still working on the most lol
I have flushed the coco for 2days with flora clean like I do every 21/28days so If my plants have a little longer to go should I give hem a small feed everyday of around 400/500ppm until I see the desired trich's of 30/40% amber and once I see that start a 3/4 day leaching?
 

coreywebster

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I have flushed the coco for 2days with flora clean like I do every 21/28days so If my plants have a little longer to go should I give hem a small feed everyday of around 400/500ppm until I see the desired trich's of 30/40% amber and once I see that start a 3/4 day leaching?
Sounds like a plan. :bigjoint:
 

tyke1973

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Hang on to it because the Original cut of Exodus is becoming Rare,I have been after another for a while now,Yea that is me bro,Livers is a Blues Cut ,That was originally done in Barnsley Yorkshire.

Just my opinion,But all ways flush for 7 days,If you can't taste the difference with flushed weed and un flushed ,something wrong with your taste buds.I like to know that my plants have only been up taking water ,but with auto pots growing the medium ,is just there to support the plant and hold the roots .All the feeding is done from the roots in the bottom of the tray,The Medium is bone dry ,And i like to know there just taking in water,But i think it makes the plants Finish of better,Just something i have noticed over the years,There will still be nutrients in the plant,so no need putting more in.
 
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tyke1973

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A lot of UK growers are going,down the haze road now ,and out growing the Exodus ,Big Mistake.Because i have spoke to many growers and breeders that have never even tasted the real exodus,When i visit Cups .They are all ways Diluted with something else to get them over seas.So hang on to it bro telling ya you have found a Gem there,Plus it looks like you have found the best pheno of it just by how it looks ,in your pictures ,Stunning work keep it up.

No one really knows the strains that was used to make Livers,A fair few have said that Dj Shorts blueberry is the blues and exodus cheese others say seeds found in a bag of Blue cheese was crossed with Jtr but i have no idea all i know is that ,both are bad ass cuts,I have livers but im still on the hunt for the exodus.

Had my Exodus mother for over 7 year ,Lost it this year .She just started to burn up,even in veg .Nothing i did made a difference,The last grow i did of it the bud was fire and nice when pruned ,but its time was up,loved that plant.So make sure you think about femming it at some point if possible,This was the mistake i made.i should have femmed a section of one of the plants in flower ,for future use.

Makes the best oil i have had,Pineapple express is the new kid on the block in my grow room now ,and does all my medical needs good ,but not like the cheese did,that was brilliant for both my own needs and wifes,
 
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tyke1973

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Under the MH the structure looks like the exodus but under the LED compleat diffrent

That looks so delicious lol how long did you let her go before the chop?

Does this cut usually have dark green leaf or are we over feeding do you think?
9 week
 

tyke1973

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I would water the day before harvest. Letting it go dry before will hinder the curing process.
Never water before the Harvest ,let the Medium Dry out.Then chop down ,and either dry Fast or Slow ,I personally dry fast ,But then all ways let the Buds once Pruned Have a Nice Cure For a while before Smoking,Normally 5/7 days to get them to the point where i can prune then jar them,And just burp the jars untill its 100% dry then the jars are sealed and put away for a min of 4 week then Smoked there after
 

tyke1973

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I been looking at a lot of my old grow photo's ,and if this has a fruity sweet smell to it then I would have to say I think it's more likely Livers ,either way you hav a fine strain,fem a branch dude telling you .Or you will be looking back at this thread one day thinking I wish I listened to him.The only girl that never give me shit,and always was bang on form .Livers I have seeds of ,I even have livers X this cheese ,so I'm not totally with out her line image.jpeg
 

tyke1973

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wow looks killer! you had a bag of weed with 5 seeds in it though?! hope it wasn't a gram bag! LOL
Dude does not matter if there are beans in it and it either of the two we are talking about ,shit order me a bag ,tell him I want more seeds than bud lol,do not let him know that the seeds are fire bro ,or it will mean the streets are once again hit with it ,the rarer the better.
 

Stink Bug

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100% dry would mean the curing process ended before it even began. 60% moisture is as low as you want to go. Any lower and curing stops. And cannot be restarted by adding moisture. But to each his own...
 

tyke1973

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If your plant has not got an
I would water the day before harvest. Letting it go dry before will hinder the curing process.
If the plants not got enough water in it,to go a day with out somethings wrong,The Moisture that is in the Medium and the plant will hold it for prob a few days,But i would not feed the day before you take it down.But each to there Own,I see no need on adding water to something that you are going to be drying the day after.But like i say it really is each to there own,
 

Stink Bug

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If your plant has not got an

If the plants not got enough water in it,to go a day with out somethings wrong,The Moisture that is in the Medium and the plant will hold it for prob a few days,But i would not feed the day before you take it down.But each to there Own,I see no need on adding water to something that you are going to be drying the day after.But like i say it really is each to there own,
Well I believe the OP stated earlier he was going to let the soil really dry out before harvest. You also stated let the medium dry out. Not a good thing. And I never said he should feed the day before harvest, just water.
 
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