Labor Unions starting a third party

[Grandpapy]

And people wonder whatever happened to living wages...

Don't tell the commerce idlers tax cuts are possible in the benefits package.
We'll call it a tax on taxable rebates. (corps love that one)

 

[ttystikk]

Don't tell the commerce idlers tax cuts are possible in the benefits package.
We'll call it a tax on taxable rebates. (corps love that one)

I admire your ability to poke such fun at the Trainwreck of our country. I'm sure it's good for your blood pressure, which is probably more therapeutic than anything you're likely to get from Medicare.

 

[Grandpapy]

I admire your ability to poke such fun at the Trainwreck of our country. I'm sure it's good for your blood pressure, which is probably more therapeutic than anything you're likely to get from Medicare.

lol

 

[Rob Roy]

Union jobs pay better. Why are you against unions?

You know your idea that what an employer and employee agree for pay isn't always fair.

You honestly think that without unions and minimum wages that employers would actually pay what they do?

No they wouldn't. They would pay less. They would take advantage of people willing to work for less.

Look back at how people were treated in the mines.

Increased opportunity is often a function of a free market. Decreased opportunity is often a result of an unfree market.
Of course, most people have no idea of what a "real" free market looks like and instead cobble together a strawman argument against the faux free market / cronyistic blow hardian thing that exists today.

But anyway...here's a pretty picture for you....

 

[ttystikk]

Increased opportunity is often a function of a free market. Decreased opportunity is often a result of an unfree market.
Of course, most people have no idea of what a "real" free market looks like and instead cobble together a strawman argument against the faux free market / cronyistic blow hardian thing that exists today.

But anyway...here's a pretty picture for you....


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You're trying to drive by looking out the back window.

Walmart doesn't negotiate wages with its employees. It's 'take it or leave it'. All the negotiating power is with the company.

This is why Walmart workers end up on food stamps.

Demand curve macroeconomics has fuck all to do with it.

 

[Rob Roy]

You're trying to drive by looking out the back window.

Walmart doesn't negotiate wages with its employees. It's 'take it or leave it'. All the negotiating power is with the company.

This is why Walmart workers end up on food stamps.

Demand curve macroeconomics has fuck all to do with it.

Actually I'm looking down at the clusterfuck from outer space and wondering when people will figure out that switching who gets to hold the gun is not any kind of a real change.

You appear to be looking for the keys you dropped in the driveway in your living room, because there's more light inside. You'll never find your keys, but at least you might vacuum your soiled rug.

Walmart doesn't force anybody to work there, but your government forces you to subsidize their success, via licensure, regulation and public subsidies derived from confiscatory means.

Yes, I know, you don't know what I'm talking about.

 

[whitebb2727]

Increased opportunity is often a function of a free market. Decreased opportunity is often a result of an unfree market.
Of course, most people have no idea of what a "real" free market looks like and instead cobble together a strawman argument against the faux free market / cronyistic blow hardian thing that exists today.

But anyway...here's a pretty picture for you....


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That's all fine and everything except it really doesn't work that way.

I worked for minimum wage back when it was three something an hour. I haven't since.

A free market doesn't change that. There will be employers that take advantage of people.

As stated, Wal-Mart is one. There is nothing stopping Wal-Mart from paying a better wage.

 

[londonfog]

That's all fine and everything except it really doesn't work that way.

I worked for minimum wage back when it was three something an hour. I haven't since.

A free market doesn't change that. There will be employers that take advantage of people.

As stated, Wal-Mart is one. There is nothing stopping Wal-Mart from paying a better wage.

The people who accept the wage offered.

 

[Grandpapy]

The people who accept the wage offered.

If we could only lash together Corp's floatable trash and follow the current to opportunities.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Increased opportunity is often a function of a free market. Decreased opportunity is often a result of an unfree market.
Of course, most people have no idea of what a "real" free market looks like and instead cobble together a strawman argument against the faux free market / cronyistic blow hardian thing that exists today.

But anyway...here's a pretty picture for you....


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Nobody who understands economics would post that particular graph for the current discussion.

 

[whitebb2727]

The people who accept the wage offered.

True.

I was just saying that Wal-Mart is free to do as they wish. They still choose to pay minimum wage.

 

[Justin-case]

True.

I was just saying that Wal-Mart is free to do as they wish. They still choose to pay minimum wage.

Don't bother, this idiot ^^^^^ thinks high fructose corn syrup is more dangerous than high capacity assault rifles.

 

[Grandpapy]

Don't bother, this idiot ^^^^^ thinks high fructose corn syrup is more dangerous than high capacity assault rifles.

High Fructose (mag/drum loaded Diabetes) will milk, bankrupt, cripple as well as suck the life out of nearby relatives before killing it's victim.

So I can see his point. I was lucky in my children had higher ed laid out before I was struck by a stay.

 

[ttystikk]

Actually I'm looking down at the clusterfuck from outer space and wondering when people will figure out that switching who gets to hold the gun is not any kind of a real change.

You appear to be looking for the keys you dropped in the driveway in your living room, because there's more light inside. You'll never find your keys, but at least you might vacuum your soiled rug.

Walmart doesn't force anybody to work there, but your government forces you to subsidize their success, via licensure, regulation and public subsidies derived from confiscatory means.

Yes, I know, you don't know what I'm talking about.

Maybe I'm not the only one.

 

[Rob Roy]

That's all fine and everything except it really doesn't work that way.

I worked for minimum wage back when it was three something an hour. I haven't since.

A free market doesn't change that. There will be employers that take advantage of people.

As stated, Wal-Mart is one. There is nothing stopping Wal-Mart from paying a better wage.

How do you take advantage of a person if they have an opportunity to say yes or not to what you are offering ?

 

[Rob Roy]

Nobody who understands economics would post that particular graph for the current discussion.

 

[Rob Roy]

Maybe I'm not the only one.

You are absolutely right. Your savior Bernie Sanders has no grasp on how a free market works either. Good point.

 

[ttystikk]

How do you take advantage of a person if they have an opportunity to say yes or not to what you are offering ?

Well, let's see; in the case of, say, Walmart; gain unfair business advantage by lobbying local, state and national governments for tax perks and special favors.

Take advantage of superior financial leverage by building a huge store in town.

Deliberately undercut all the local merchants, forcing them out of business.

Then tell everyone who lost their jobs working for those other businesses, 'you have a choice'. Yeah, work for us for shit wages- or starve.

I'd ask if you're fucking stupid, but years of your posts have pounded that point home with a pile driver.

 

[ttystikk]

You are absolutely right. Your savior Bernie Sanders has no grasp on how a free market works either. Good point.

How the fuck would you know? You don't even know what one is.

Show us an actual free market. Just one. Anywhere.

 

[ttystikk]

Loaded with empty calories and lacking in nutritional substance, just like all the rest of your posts.

Have you put in your vote for Roy Moore yet? He represents your interests...