Club 315w lec

hey, any of you guys or gals ever run the 210 w LEC?? I'm thinking of trying it out in a small veg tent instead of going T5's.my 315 puts me at almost 80 w/sq ft for a 2x2 veg tent. 210 is 50 w/sq ft

i have the philips ballast and it's an easy switch over to run the 210w. just need the bulb. like 50 bucks on ebay.

anyone?
 
rkymtnman said:
hey, any of you guys or gals ever run the 210 w LEC?? I'm thinking of trying it out in a small veg tent instead of going T5's.my 315 puts me at almost 80 w/sq ft for a 2x2 veg tent. 210 is 50 w/sq ft

i have the philips ballast and it's an easy switch over to run the 210w. just need the bulb. like 50 bucks on ebay.

anyone?
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http://www.lighting.philips.com/mai...al-halide/mastercolor-cdm-t-elite-med-wattage

I am sure it would work as well or better than standard metal halide.

But it doesnt mention horticultural use like the 3100k 315.
 
rkymtnman said:
hey, any of you guys or gals ever run the 210 w LEC?? I'm thinking of trying it out in a small veg tent instead of going T5's.my 315 puts me at almost 80 w/sq ft for a 2x2 veg tent. 210 is 50 w/sq ft

i have the philips ballast and it's an easy switch over to run the 210w. just need the bulb. like 50 bucks on ebay.

anyone?
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I ran my first SS 315 at 210....well the switch never got flipped at the manufacturer...
It did just fine..4200 bulb.
 
rkymtnman said:
hey, any of you guys or gals ever run the 210 w LEC?? I'm thinking of trying it out in a small veg tent instead of going T5's.my 315 puts me at almost 80 w/sq ft for a 2x2 veg tent. 210 is 50 w/sq ft

i have the philips ballast and it's an easy switch over to run the 210w. just need the bulb. like 50 bucks on ebay.

anyone?
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The bulbs rated open?
 
genuity said:
I ran my first SS 315 at 210....well the switch never got flipped at the manufacturer...
It did just fine..4200 bulb.
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haven't thought of doing it that way! would save money on not buying a new bulb.

how did you figure out it was set at 210? didn't seem like the bulb was as bright as it should be??
 
Carolina Dream'n said:
As someone who had grown with 7 ft ceilings for over 6 years now, stay away from anything DE. It leaves no room for mistakes on stretch/plant size. You'd be better off with 12 315s. Canopy essentially wall to wall.

Personally I'd go with 3 ton mini split.
Two quest 105 dehumidifier.
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This^^^. I wish my basement had another 2 feet. At least a foot. Iam at 7 now with 8 750 Gavitas. And the fixtures are between the basement floor joists. Got lucky and they happen to fit just snug. Nanos with the flat horizontal orientated ballast would of been even better but they would of been even more recessed...shining on about an inch of joist wood...lol. (Sawzall on a rental home = been there done that. Many landlords are pissed in this town). Truth is..I actually am too low for double ended hps. My plant heights are critical. No room for error. And canopy management is critical/ veg size is of the utmost importance. Yes...with de's...its easy to fry the tops. I have to train them low and wide in my veg room. Much more important than mogul socket hid's. 8 foot plus minimum for even 750's and I'd venture to say 2 or 3 ft more with thouie de's. But if I keep them low and out of the danger zone...Iam ok. Cant run drain to waste tables either. Just plumbed together catch saucers for runoff. Lowest I can go. Every inch is prime real estate. Again..ive said it before..and ive heard of it but I dont understand how people are cramming 750 and 1000 watt de's into tents and low ceilings.
 
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since1991 said:
This^^^. I wish my basement had another 2 feet. At least a foot. Iam at 7 now with 8 750 Gavitas. And the fixtures are between the basement floor joists. Got lucky and they happen to fit just snug. Nanos with the flat horizontal orientated ballast would of been even better but they would of been even more recessed...shining on about an inch of joist wood...lol. (Sawzall on a rental home = been there done that. Many landlords are pissed in this town). Truth is..I actually am too low for double ended hps. My plant heights are critical. No room for error. And canopy management is critical/ veg size is of the utmost importance. Yes...with de's...its easy to fry the tops. I have to train them low and wide in my veg room. Much more important than mogul socket hid's. 8 foot plus minimum for even 750's and I'd venture to say 2 or 3 ft more with thouie de's. But if I keep them low and out of the danger zone...Iam ok. Cant run drain to waste tables either. Just plumbed together catch saucers for runoff. Lowest I can go. Every inch is prime real estate. Again..ive said it before..and ive heard of it but I dont understand how people are cramming 750 and 1000 watt de's into tents and low ceilings.
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I considered doing the very same thing. I was going to get 1000 de hps and put hem up inside the ceiling joists but then decided on the cmh lights but of course had to over think it and want to add hps, as I have grown with hps for like 10 years so I naturally want to use it.
 
Rollngrow said:
I considered doing the very same thing. I was going to get 1000 de hps and put hem up inside the ceiling joists but then decided on the cmh lights but of course had to over think it and want to add hps, as I have grown with hps for like 10 years so I naturally want to use it.
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1000 watt de's arw no go for anything less than 9 foot. At least I would think so. Iam had trouble with 750's at 7 feet. Sucks for us low ceiling growers to not be able to take advantage of powerful efficient de lamps. I manage but I have to pay attention more to plant size. One of the reasons I am so on the fence with cmh lamps. Would be perfect. But i have to know for sure the weight would still be there. Its a hefty trigger pull/gamble buying equivalent wattage of fixtures of an untried (for me) new lamp at what...450 $ a pop? Thats alot of bread...even for a dope grower. Todays dope grower anyways. 15 years ago...sign me up no problem. Lol. Heres the cash. Lol.
 
Anyone see how high the big boys in warehouses and greenhouses keep their double ended lamps? At least 12 to 16 feet. Seems counter intuituve but thats how its done. Its because they have so damn many. I seen a pic of a Netherlands greenhouse. Giant fucker..size of 50 football fields. Tulip house. It said it was packed with like 2500 p.l. fixtures or some crazy number. Mounted up HIGH. They dont fuck around in the greenhouse world. And here we are...trying to cram 1 to 10 of em in a basement or house. Lol.
 
since1991 said:
Anyone see how high the big boys in warehouses and greenhouses keep their double ended lamps? At least 12 to 16 feet. Seems counter intuituve but thats how its done. Its because they have so damn many. I seen a pic of a Netherlands greenhouse. Giant fucker..size of 50 football fields. Tulip house. It said it was packed with like 2500 p.l. fixtures or some crazy number. Mounted up HIGH. They dont fuck around in the greenhouse world. And here we are...trying to cram 1 to 10 of em in a basement or house. Lol.
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i almost went the DE 750 route. i'm glad i didn't even with 8 ft ceilings.
 
hmm, I'm not having a problem with heat with my 750, almost disappointed heatwise. Just barely kept the room at 75. Also while the light is intense for sure the way everyone talked I thought laser beams were gonna shoot out everywhere.
 
since1991 said:
Anyone see how high the big boys in warehouses and greenhouses keep their double ended lamps? At least 12 to 16 feet. Seems counter intuituve but thats how its done. Its because they have so damn many. I seen a pic of a Netherlands greenhouse. Giant fucker..size of 50 football fields. Tulip house. It said it was packed with like 2500 p.l. fixtures or some crazy number. Mounted up HIGH. They dont fuck around in the greenhouse world. And here we are...trying to cram 1 to 10 of em in a basement or house. Lol.
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Overlapping light increasing intensity. But not that high indoor. 5-6 ft at the most. (6ft would be in veg or very early flower) and that's in 500-1000 light rooms.

Also in greenhouse they are supplement light, most often to just keep light schedules or increase light on cloudy days, so the higher they are they most space they cover.
 
since1991 said:
1000 watt de's arw no go for anything less than 9 foot. At least I would think so. Iam had trouble with 750's at 7 feet. Sucks for us low ceiling growers to not be able to take advantage of powerful efficient de lamps. I manage but I have to pay attention more to plant size. One of the reasons I am so on the fence with cmh lamps. Would be perfect. But i have to know for sure the weight would still be there. Its a hefty trigger pull/gamble buying equivalent wattage of fixtures of an untried (for me) new lamp at what...450 $ a pop? Thats alot of bread...even for a dope grower. Todays dope grower anyways. 15 years ago...sign me up no problem. Lol. Heres the cash. Lol.
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I like 600 super hps bulbs every 3.5' for the low ceilings I deal with. Even better would be 2 600's with a 315 in the middle of each 4'x8' area.

And I keep the plants under 30" over 3 gallon pots.
 
Just put the ladies on the screens. I am running two 315's, one vert and one horizontal st present. They are not tall enough for both to be set vertical, so I have the lower one vert and the upper light horiz. Running the one vertical without the second light is a problem because to keep the lamp just above the tops of the plants creates that dead zone of light at the tip of the lamp. So the lower parts of the plant were out of the direct light. Will be going both vertical within a week or so.
This is the light setup.
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Group shot.
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She is only 20" but she loves being bound to the screen. :)
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As with last grow we are not removing the fans yet, tucking them behind the screens.
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Ladies bound to the screens and ready to rock.
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These are indica dom so I am not expecting a lot of lateral growth but hope to get at least a 150 to 200% stretch. Am around 20 plus inches not.

GR
 
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