Progressives protest Diane Feinstein; 'support single payer or retire'

Padawanbater2

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Last spring, a Harvard-Harris poll found Sanders to be the most popular active politician in the country. African Americans gave the senator the highest favorables at 73 percent — vs. 68 percent among Latinos, 62 percent among Asian Americans and 52 percent among white voters. It wasn’t a fluke: This August, black voters again reported a 73 percent favorability rating for Sanders. Critics, such as Starr, continue to point to the senator’s 2016 primary numbers among older African American voters to claim that his message somehow doesn’t resonate with people of color as a whole — and continue to ignore that, according to GenForward, Sanders won the black millennial vote in the primaries.

So why does the myth that black voters don’t like Sanders persist? It certainly isn’t because black voters can’t relate to his focus on the working class. According to the Economic Policy Institute, people of color will form the majority of the American working class by 2032. In other words, the white working class does not have a monopoly on economic marginalization.

Folks in McDowell County, W.Va., and inner-city St. Louis are encountering many of the same challenges. So, an economic message that includes advancing policies that will close the wage gap, raise the minimum wage, ensure equal pay for equal work, create jobs, make education affordable and ensure health care as a human right is a message that cuts across demographics.

Thus Democrats should be careful not to continue the false association of working class issues strictly with the white working class — a major fixation after last year’s election and an assumption of many criticisms of Sanders’s message. As someone who traveled across the country with Sanders during his campaign, I know firsthand that the narrative of working-class politics as exclusively white erases the stories of so many of the people who believed in and fought for a political revolution — and a government that works for all of us, not just a wealthy or connected few.

The senator’s message still resonates — perhaps now more than ever. Just look at the fight to expand health care: Poll after poll shows that Americans across the board are ready for “Medicare for all” — something the senator championed when it wasn’t politically popular to do so. Indeed, Pew polling found this year that 85 percent of blacks and 84 percent of Hispanics support single-payer health care — while whites are split on the issue roughly 50-50. Now, Medicare for all has the support of legislators such as rising star Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), who recently announced she will co-sponsor Sanders’s upcoming single-payer bill. As Harris said, “It’s just the right thing to do.”

There is no doubt we on Sanders’s 2016 campaign could have better communicated how the senator’s fight against a rigged economy held in place by a corrupt system of campaign finance specifically affected different communities. But let’s not pretend there isn’t broad-based support for the policies he’s fighting for. Instead of attacking Bernie, folks should follow his journey and witness the work. Whether it’s been standing with black union workers in Mississippi, standing with Conyers and Anthony in Detroit, or putting himself on the front lines of the fight to save the Affordable Care Act, the senator is using his voice and the weight of his popularity to fight for the policies that will benefit us all. And the polls show that people get it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/12/its-time-to-end-the-myth-that-black-voters-dont-like-bernie-sanders/
 

Fogdog

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If they're on the same page 93% of the time, why do Clinton supporters, like Buck and Fogdog, continue to drive a wedge between factions? If unity is the goal, why do they continue to shit on Sanders and his supporters (even after having voted for him [idiot])? We have to defeat Trump in 2020, in order to do that, we have to be united. If we're not united, those that choose to fracture the party will be held responsible. As I've said, the left is already united. It's members of the Democratic establishment who resist.
Sanders is a very divisive politician. His speech during the unity tour with Perez was anything but one of a person who sought to unify. His and your approach is to shun those who aren't going to follow Sanders wherever he goes. That's division, not unity.

Just look at the incredible demands on Feinstein to retire for no other reason than that she disagrees with Sanders' half baked and unworkable universal healthcare bill. Feinstein gave her reasons why she can't support it. She says shes running for office in 2018. It's up to the Democratic Party voters in California to decide. If you are so right on this then it should be easy replace her.

Instead I read about chicken shit Sanders supporters who demand she retire.

Primaries are where the party's nominee is selected, not in some town hall meeting.
 
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Fogdog

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Last spring, a Harvard-Harris poll found Sanders to be the most popular active politician in the country. African Americans gave the senator the highest favorables at 73 percent — vs. 68 percent among Latinos, 62 percent among Asian Americans and 52 percent among white voters. It wasn’t a fluke: This August, black voters again reported a 73 percent favorability rating for Sanders. Critics, such as Starr, continue to point to the senator’s 2016 primary numbers among older African American voters to claim that his message somehow doesn’t resonate with people of color as a whole — and continue to ignore that, according to GenForward, Sanders won the black millennial vote in the primaries.

So why does the myth that black voters don’t like Sanders persist? It certainly isn’t because black voters can’t relate to his focus on the working class. According to the Economic Policy Institute, people of color will form the majority of the American working class by 2032. In other words, the white working class does not have a monopoly on economic marginalization.

Folks in McDowell County, W.Va., and inner-city St. Louis are encountering many of the same challenges. So, an economic message that includes advancing policies that will close the wage gap, raise the minimum wage, ensure equal pay for equal work, create jobs, make education affordable and ensure health care as a human right is a message that cuts across demographics.

Thus Democrats should be careful not to continue the false association of working class issues strictly with the white working class — a major fixation after last year’s election and an assumption of many criticisms of Sanders’s message. As someone who traveled across the country with Sanders during his campaign, I know firsthand that the narrative of working-class politics as exclusively white erases the stories of so many of the people who believed in and fought for a political revolution — and a government that works for all of us, not just a wealthy or connected few.

The senator’s message still resonates — perhaps now more than ever. Just look at the fight to expand health care: Poll after poll shows that Americans across the board are ready for “Medicare for all” — something the senator championed when it wasn’t politically popular to do so. Indeed, Pew polling found this year that 85 percent of blacks and 84 percent of Hispanics support single-payer health care — while whites are split on the issue roughly 50-50. Now, Medicare for all has the support of legislators such as rising star Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), who recently announced she will co-sponsor Sanders’s upcoming single-payer bill. As Harris said, “It’s just the right thing to do.”

There is no doubt we on Sanders’s 2016 campaign could have better communicated how the senator’s fight against a rigged economy held in place by a corrupt system of campaign finance specifically affected different communities. But let’s not pretend there isn’t broad-based support for the policies he’s fighting for. Instead of attacking Bernie, folks should follow his journey and witness the work. Whether it’s been standing with black union workers in Mississippi, standing with Conyers and Anthony in Detroit, or putting himself on the front lines of the fight to save the Affordable Care Act, the senator is using his voice and the weight of his popularity to fight for the policies that will benefit us all. And the polls show that people get it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/12/its-time-to-end-the-myth-that-black-voters-dont-like-bernie-sanders/
The author was his press secretary during his campaign. Yeah, really convincing.

Sanders has one black friend. He actually had quite a few. About 30% of Democratic Party members who are black voted for him. Of course the 70% who didn't vote for him were the reason he lost to Clinton.

So, cherry pick a person with professional ties to Sanders as the minority voice.

Also quote polls that you like but don't have anything to do with how people will vote.

Post a wall of text. It's propaganda but the kind you want, so it's ok.
 

travisw

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Democrats could win with mark Cuban, Mike Bloomberg ,Gavin Newsome or Tillman fertita.
Instead they'll run some career politician with a law background.


Mark Cuban - "I would prefer to be a Republican"
http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-cuban-republican-party-big-problem-2015-8

Mike Bloomberg - Ran for mayor as a Republican and is a fucking Republican.

Tillman Fertitta - Also a fucking Republican.

So your brilliant solution for the Democrats to win back the White House is to just start running billionaire repubs against billionaire repubs?
 

abandonconflict

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Last spring, a Harvard-Harris poll found Sanders to be the most popular active politician in the country. African Americans gave the senator the highest favorables at 73 percent — vs. 68 percent among Latinos, 62 percent among Asian Americans and 52 percent among white voters. It wasn’t a fluke: This August, black voters again reported a 73 percent favorability rating for Sanders. Critics, such as Starr, continue to point to the senator’s 2016 primary numbers among older African American voters to claim that his message somehow doesn’t resonate with people of color as a whole — and continue to ignore that, according to GenForward, Sanders won the black millennial vote in the primaries.

So why does the myth that black voters don’t like Sanders persist? It certainly isn’t because black voters can’t relate to his focus on the working class. According to the Economic Policy Institute, people of color will form the majority of the American working class by 2032. In other words, the white working class does not have a monopoly on economic marginalization.

Folks in McDowell County, W.Va., and inner-city St. Louis are encountering many of the same challenges. So, an economic message that includes advancing policies that will close the wage gap, raise the minimum wage, ensure equal pay for equal work, create jobs, make education affordable and ensure health care as a human right is a message that cuts across demographics.

Thus Democrats should be careful not to continue the false association of working class issues strictly with the white working class — a major fixation after last year’s election and an assumption of many criticisms of Sanders’s message. As someone who traveled across the country with Sanders during his campaign, I know firsthand that the narrative of working-class politics as exclusively white erases the stories of so many of the people who believed in and fought for a political revolution — and a government that works for all of us, not just a wealthy or connected few.

The senator’s message still resonates — perhaps now more than ever. Just look at the fight to expand health care: Poll after poll shows that Americans across the board are ready for “Medicare for all” — something the senator championed when it wasn’t politically popular to do so. Indeed, Pew polling found this year that 85 percent of blacks and 84 percent of Hispanics support single-payer health care — while whites are split on the issue roughly 50-50. Now, Medicare for all has the support of legislators such as rising star Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), who recently announced she will co-sponsor Sanders’s upcoming single-payer bill. As Harris said, “It’s just the right thing to do.”

There is no doubt we on Sanders’s 2016 campaign could have better communicated how the senator’s fight against a rigged economy held in place by a corrupt system of campaign finance specifically affected different communities. But let’s not pretend there isn’t broad-based support for the policies he’s fighting for. Instead of attacking Bernie, folks should follow his journey and witness the work. Whether it’s been standing with black union workers in Mississippi, standing with Conyers and Anthony in Detroit, or putting himself on the front lines of the fight to save the Affordable Care Act, the senator is using his voice and the weight of his popularity to fight for the policies that will benefit us all. And the polls show that people get it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/12/its-time-to-end-the-myth-that-black-voters-dont-like-bernie-sanders/
Tldr

The only polls that matter are elections.
 

schuylaar

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While Clinton and her supporters continue to focus on the wedge in the Democratic party in an effort to grasp at any remaining straws that they believe will keep her relevant, Sanders and his supporters continue to push progressive policies forward and battle the GOP and Trump on every regressive action they take

 
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schuylaar

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Last spring, a Harvard-Harris poll found Sanders to be the most popular active politician in the country. African Americans gave the senator the highest favorables at 73 percent — vs. 68 percent among Latinos, 62 percent among Asian Americans and 52 percent among white voters. It wasn’t a fluke: This August, black voters again reported a 73 percent favorability rating for Sanders. Critics, such as Starr, continue to point to the senator’s 2016 primary numbers among older African American voters to claim that his message somehow doesn’t resonate with people of color as a whole — and continue to ignore that, according to GenForward, Sanders won the black millennial vote in the primaries.

So why does the myth that black voters don’t like Sanders persist? It certainly isn’t because black voters can’t relate to his focus on the working class. According to the Economic Policy Institute, people of color will form the majority of the American working class by 2032. In other words, the white working class does not have a monopoly on economic marginalization.

Folks in McDowell County, W.Va., and inner-city St. Louis are encountering many of the same challenges. So, an economic message that includes advancing policies that will close the wage gap, raise the minimum wage, ensure equal pay for equal work, create jobs, make education affordable and ensure health care as a human right is a message that cuts across demographics.

Thus Democrats should be careful not to continue the false association of working class issues strictly with the white working class — a major fixation after last year’s election and an assumption of many criticisms of Sanders’s message. As someone who traveled across the country with Sanders during his campaign, I know firsthand that the narrative of working-class politics as exclusively white erases the stories of so many of the people who believed in and fought for a political revolution — and a government that works for all of us, not just a wealthy or connected few.

The senator’s message still resonates — perhaps now more than ever. Just look at the fight to expand health care: Poll after poll shows that Americans across the board are ready for “Medicare for all” — something the senator championedwhen it wasn’t politically popular to do so. Indeed, Pew polling found this year that 85 percent of blacks and 84 percent of Hispanics support single-payer health care — while whites are split on the issue roughly 50-50. Now, Medicare for all has the support of legislators such as rising star Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), who recently announced she will co-sponsor Sanders’s upcoming single-payer bill. As Harris said, “It’s just the right thing to do.”

There is no doubt we on Sanders’s 2016 campaign could have better communicated how the senator’s fight against a rigged economy held in place by a corrupt system of campaign finance specifically affected different communities. But let’s not pretend there isn’t broad-based support for the policies he’s fighting for. Instead of attacking Bernie, folks should follow his journey and witness the work. Whether it’s been standing with black union workers in Mississippi, standing with Conyers and Anthony in Detroit, or putting himself on the front lines of the fight to save the Affordable Care Act, the senator is using his voice and the weight of his popularity to fight for the policies that will benefit us all. And the polls show that people get it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/12/its-time-to-end-the-myth-that-black-voters-dont-like-bernie-sanders/
2020.
 
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