My thoughts on the Las Vegas massacre

TacoMac said:
No, they don't you racist prick. Whites do, followed by blacks, followed by Hispanics, followed by Asians. Black's also have the misfortune of having laws specifically targeting them. Whites don't have that problem, nor do Hispanics or Asians.

Blacks are to this day the only people still persecuted and singled out in this country. They have been since they literally got off the boat.
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What laws specifically target black people?
 
UncleBuck said:
what made you decide to defend the guy on pedophilia websites and join the nazis in their "fake jew" crusade?
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You admitted to being a fake Jew Agnostic Jew is what you said. If you were a Jew you would follow the Jewish religion which says to kill gays and Muslims along with a whole lot more people. :)
 
The law I was arrested under was local. It was called "contributing unruly behavior to n an unruly area."

It is to bust white kids trying to buy drugs in a small city in New Jersey.

They give you a choice if you don't have a good lawyer.

Plead guilty and pay them and work for them for free or go to jail.

Or plead innocent and go to jail after a trial of our peers we have never met.
 
TacoMac said:
Quit being an idiot.

It took him around a minute to empty the rounds from the rifles. Then the firing stopped for almost a minute as he swopped the clips in all of them. Then he did it again.

Read the fucking police report.
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Magazine, you know nothing about guns. So you shouldn't be talking about them.
 
chemphlegm said:
might not be government , but private sector manipulations would be easier for you to consider?
not trying to convince anyone of course, I dont have any evidence this was more than a whacko with guns, for now.
I like open minds and your style of discourse.
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Thanks, I'm happy to have a discussion with you on this too.

The thing is, I don't see how or why a private sector would be involved. We have no idea why the shooter did the deed, we can only speculate that there was a second shooter and now we bring in a hypothetical third party?

Google fake news and Las Vegas. The second shooter story is already being called a fake conspiracy theory by the police and most media sources. I agree that there could be a second shooter but I'm skeptical and the people who ought to know are saying there wasn't.

Rather than speculate about something on which we have no information, let's talk about conspiracy theorists or those who tend to believe them.

Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html

“The best predictor of belief in a conspiracy theory is belief in other conspiracy theories,” says Viren Swami, a psychology professor who studies conspiracy belief at the University of Westminster in England. Psychologists say that’s because a conspiracy theory isn’t so much a response to a single event as it is an expression of an overarching worldview."

People who tend to believe conspiracy theories are more likely to believe the next one. I don't tend to believe conspiracy theories because they don't pass my personal sniff test for complexity. While I don't deny that two people could have done the dirty deed, why hasn't anybody close to the investigation said so? The conspiracy theorist has to claim that somebody is lying and other people who know aren't saying anything. At that point, my personal bullshit detector pops up because it's really hard to keep secrets without increasing the body count (dead men don't talk) which is what actually happened in Russian embassies not too long ago. The dead Russian body count is one of the reasons I believe that Russians conspired to affect our election.

This passage from the nytimes article is interesting as well:

Economic recessions, terrorist attacks and natural disasters are massive, looming threats, but we have little power over when they occur or how or what happens afterward. In these moments of powerlessness and uncertainty, a part of the brain called the amygdala kicks into action. Paul Whalen, a scientist at Dartmouth College who studies the amygdala, says it doesn’t exactly do anything on its own. Instead, the amygdala jump-starts the rest of the brain into analytical overdrive — prompting repeated reassessments of information in an attempt to create a coherent and understandable narrative, to understand what just happened, what threats still exist and what should be done now. This may be a useful way to understand how, writ large, the brain’s capacity for generating new narratives after shocking events can contribute to so much paranoia in this country.

“If you know the truth and others don’t, that’s one way you can reassert feelings of having agency,” Swami says.

So basically, my first instinct is to reject conspiracy theories because they are too easy to fabricate and we want to believe them.
 
A maintenance worker said Wednesday he told hotel dispatchers to call police and report a gunman had opened fire with a rifle inside Mandalay Bay before the shooter began firing from his high-rise suite into a crowd at a nearby musical performance.

At first, Campos, a guard at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, was hailed a hero for helping guide police to gunman Stephen Paddock's room on the 32nd floor. Police said Campos was shot in the leg at the end of Paddock's assault on concertgoers—potentially distracting the gunman and causing him to panic and kill himself.

But now, questions have been raised after Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo revised the timeline and said Campos had actually been shot about 9:59 p.m.—a full six minutes before the mass shooting began at 10:05 p.m.—which means the guard could have instead led Paddock to start opening fire on the crowd for fear of being caught.

so cops knew where the shooter was six minutes before he started shooting concert goers, eh boy
 
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chemphlegm said:
A maintenance worker said Wednesday he told hotel dispatchers to call police and report a gunman had opened fire with a rifle inside Mandalay Bay before the shooter began firing from his high-rise suite into a crowd at a nearby musical performance.

At first, Campos, a guard at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, was hailed a hero for helping guide police to gunman Stephen Paddock's room on the 32nd floor. Police said Campos was shot in the leg at the end of Paddock's assault on concertgoers—potentially distracting the gunman and causing him to panic and kill himself.

But now, questions have been raised after Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo revised the timeline and said Campos had actually been shot about 9:59 p.m.—a full six minutes before the mass shooting began at 10:05 p.m.—which means the guard could have instead led Paddock to start opening fire on the crowd for fear of being caught.

so cops knew where the shooter was six minutes before he started shooting concert goers, eh boy
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ah yes. it couldn't just be a simple discrepancy in the timeline, that would be the simplest explanation.

no no no, it needs to invoke massive conspiracy.
 
UncleBuck said:
yes, please explain to me the context in which i can read that to my wife and she says "oh, that's totally not racist".

because i read that to her and she said it was one of the most racist things she's heard.
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The story was about a township profiling whites in response to your racist remarks about blacks and laws.

You are cherry picking shit to support your anxiety disorder. And your imagined status here.

If you want to call the township that arrested me and left the locals on the street to keep doing business racist. You are smaller minded than I even thought.
 
MichiganMedGrower said:
The story was about a township profiling whites in response to your racist remarks about blacks and laws.

You are cherry picking shit to support your anxiety disorder. And your imagined status here.

If you want to call the township that arrested me and left the locals on the street to keep doing business racist. You are smaller minded than I even thought.
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yeah, why don't you go ahead and name that town so that i can see if they leave alone "the black" who is selling drugs.
 
UncleBuck said:
yeah, why don't you go ahead and name that town so that i can see if they leave alone "the black" who is selling drugs.
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It's Camden. And 20 years ago is when it happened. They have since gone bankrupt and lost their police and fire services.

The town is under the bridge to philly.

You have no experiences with this sort of thing to pose such secure assertions.

What have you done for experience for any of your staunch opinions anyway?
 
UncleBuck said:
i knew i never should have talked about how the cops in camden, new jersey just let "the black" go.
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You should never have talked in public at all.

The locals don't pay their fines. The white people who go there do. And their jail is perpetually over crowded.

I ask again. Do you know how anything really works? You have started a family and have no predisposition to learn anything. And you have no experiences. So how will you teach anything worthwhile?

I guess you will ask your wife.
 
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