Liberal amendment to remove 100 cm plant limit from 4 plant home grow passes #HESA #C45

CalyxCrusher

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DIY-HP-LED said:
There will be a lot of prescriptions in Ontario... Drop the price through the floor if they screw ya, run local seminars and run a business setting up grows for everybody who wants one. You can probably give pot away maybe an ounce at a time and perhaps a clone too, if you just charge for the container. Read the new law carefully and look for holes. Set up as many as possible smoke or not, pot costs a lot to grow indoors, lot's of expenses. What do you figure it costs someone to produce a pound in the basement. Hemp farmers will own the CBD market and the government insiders will run big grows, low cost per pound cause of scale, dry nutes, automation and green houses/LED lighting. Tax and corporate profits will provide plenty of opportunity, just hang around the dispensaries looking for new business, you'll do quite well, make a list and deliver.

They might monitor power (hydro) for big users, a little welding business in the garage can help, gas heat, hot water and stove help too. Strip the roof of a garage and cover with tan filon fiberglass panels, poly on the inside in the fall, big south side window covered in filon too. A single car garage filled with auto flowers and regular phenos, timed right, might yield 3 decent crops per year or more and a basement grow too could add to the pile. Garage on your prescription, plus a relative's prescription too or friends and the wife's got four in the basement. Take a break in winter and go to the islands for a bit and enjoy the weather...
Best to keep the business rolling though, keep em happy!

Get a good delivery guy or two and keep as low a profile as possible with a disposable cell or two. been done before lots. A good plan too, just keep the scale personal and friend like, same as now for many. If you hang around the dispensary area just to see who goes in, you might know a few in your area, sit with the wife on a park bench and the number of knowns will triple! Intro, read, sample, offer, list delivery and cash. Watch that end too (means test), if ya had a good job for a while antiques, gold (panning), stamps cards, etc are favorites. Don't sell to kids or crooks (B&E) etc, or have anything to do with a heat score. yer list is respectable folks who want private delivery, discretion and a little deal. Free samples are useful to drum up business and gain good will, many customers might introduce friends. Don''t make any unnecessary enemies! And yer delivery guy has gotta smile too!

Ya gotter made, don't get greedy and stupid and ya will live long and prosper, bigly!
Ya don't need to many regulars to make a bit of extra and since the government are assholes on this, don't pay em either. Justin said he doesn't want the tax and fuck Winn... well... you can...;)
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All that seems rather obvious for those wanting to go the route no? You do realize most people here are older right?
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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CalyxCrusher said:
All that seems rather obvious for those wanting to go the route no? You do realize most people here are older right?
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That's why I moved into the neighborhood, I've been trying to build a community on the site and foster organizations for rights. When it is legal, much fear and isolation will disappear and I figure things will start rolling in that direction. Have a look on the thread. I figure the medical end is where the mindfulness stuff belongs. I might help more over here, cause folks need to know they can smoke and practice too. Pot users are in chronic pain and suffer from depression too.

Still learning my way around, was mostly chronicling grow light projects and figured a Canada thread might be good for people who grow now and in the near future. Gather us together, increase our numbers and organize. Standard human behavior

My focus is to help the poor elderly and medical patients to grow their own cheaply. LED light bulbs look like the answer to me for this. See the discussion on the thread. My own "hobby" was shared as well, some others might like the approach too.

This might cut into the trade of some medical users, but is little concern to me, anybody can victimize the poor.

PS is there much other safety info for light builders and growers on the threads? I did not see much. No likes for the health alert on the first page spoke volumes to me, one of the reasons for the move. Nobody it seems has elderly relatives, wonder how much was passed along to others, I don't care about likes much either, except as feedback, but they do say much to me, as does the lack.

YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED I LIKE HUMOR TOO!;)
 
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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CalyxCrusher said:
All that seems rather obvious for those wanting to go the route no? You do realize most people here are older right?
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From the Canada thread, my views:
Cannabis Legalization in Canada
After the new year, as the promised legalization date approaches, we will be finding out more about what the government is thinking. Either through public announcements or most likely "leaks", so they can publicly float they're intentions without making a commitment (politicians, ya gotta love'm). As this process unfolds I would expect and encourage those who are here now and in the future to not be shy about making your views and opinions known, especially to the media and politicians, phone calls work better than email for this. Sitting outside the bastard's office works real good. If ya don't like what yer hearing, call up and give'm shit, when you get your MP on the line (insist) you might want to start with, " What the fuck do you think yer doing, I wouldn't of voted fur ya if I knew ya was gonna be that fuck'n stupid, you dumb bastards..."

I expect things to get pretty political and warm around here then...
Fortunately the Americans will be busy impeaching Trump to pay much attention to us, it'll be HUGE and he will go down in flames bigly, it'll be quite the show.
I'm will'n to give odds on it...;)
 
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gb123

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DIY-HP-LED said:
From the Canada thread, my views:
Cannabis Legalization in Canada
After the new year, as the promised legalization date approaches, we will be finding out more about what the government is thinking. Either through public announcements or most likely "leaks", so they can publicly float they're intentions without making a commitment (politicians, ya gotta love'm). As this process unfolds I would expect and encourage those who are here now and in the future to not be shy about making your views and opinions known, especially to the media and politicians, phone calls work better than email for this. Sitting outside the bastard's office works real good. If ya don't like what yer hearing, call up and give'm shit, when you get your MP on the line (insist) you might want to start with, " What the fuck do you think yer doing, I wouldn't of voted fur ya if I knew ya was gonna be that fuck'n stupid, you dumb bastards..."

I expect things to get pretty political and warm around here then...
Fortunately the Americans will be busy impeaching Trump to pay much attention to us, it'll be HUGE and he will go down in flames bigly, it'll be quite the show.
I'm will'n to give odds on it...;)
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What's new? (:
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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gb123 said:
What's new? (:
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Trying to find out myself, hence the post. If ya wanna win. put kids first.

Ya don't here the NRA going on about self interest, though they do, but it's all about "liberty" and protecting the second amendment.

The don't say we're a bunch of scared, parinod arseholes, who feel more comfy fingering a gun and don't give a shit, how many kids are killed either, not my problem!

Not a winning formula for a minority interest, we need more support and if we can protect the kids better than the corporations, we win, period. Hard for money to win then. Small licensed growers in competition and the pot commission sticks on a label, you only get inspected, cause of ripoffs, kids, pesticide or bud rot. Bud rot or pesticide ya lose yer dope and earn an inspection, with tips on doing better, or lose yer licence to produce.
They buy (tax too), inspect, test, stick a label on and sell to the private dispensaries. Buy minimum of a KG, see where the price goes. Tax should be based on harm/benefit, not because it's a vice, it's not for adults. Let the corporations compete too, but the little guys have more trouble buying the government. So there would be unnecessary inspection and regulation, to limit competition for them.

It starts with idea people can gather around and talk about, more heads are better than one at coming up with a plan. I figure this is a good starting point.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Trying to find out myself, hence the post. If ya wanna win. put kids first.

Ya don't here the NRA going on about self interest, though they do, but it's all about "liberty" and protecting the second amendment.

The don't say we're a bunch of scared, parinod arseholes, who feel more comfy fingering a gun and don't give a shit, how many kids are killed either, not my problem!

Not a winning formula for a minority interest, we need more support and if we can protect the kids better than the corporations, we win, period. Hard for money to win then. Small licensed growers in competition and the pot commission sticks on a label, you only get inspected, cause of ripoffs, kids, pesticide or bud rot. Bud rot or pesticide ya lose yer dope and earn an inspection, with tips on doing better, or lose yer licence to produce.
They buy (tax too), inspect, test, stick a label on and sell to the private dispensaries. Buy minimum of a KG, see where the price goes. Tax should be based on harm/benefit, not because it's a vice, it's not for adults. Let the corporations compete too, but the little guys have more trouble buying the government. So there would be unnecessary inspection and regulation, to limit competition for them.

It starts with idea people can gather around and talk about, more heads are better than one at coming up with a plan. I figure this is a good starting point.
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Act human and organize, or those who do, will get the government to kill ya, activist or corporations, but for different reasons.;)

If the feds are acting in good faith, ok. Go to war with the provinces, weakest and smallest first and work your way to Winn!;)

My beef will probably be with the provinces, courts will take care of the feds (provinces too) and the constitution and judges decide, good by me, change the basic law.

Forget medical though, that's covered and will be more so over time. Drug stores and compounding pharmacists, will own it eventually.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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gb123 said:
My kids are first and THEYRE INFORMED... :)


bad example
NO ONE DIES or GET S KILLED or Gets hurt

so,,,,:?
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Even if it's harmless to kids, it's habituating at a critical stage of life. Not a moral argument, but one of keeping kids life options open. Habits can come later in life. Honest education is the only answer to this issue in the long run, not the drug war propaganda I got as a teen and young adult.

The pot war is not only bullshit, but a big time crime against humanity and will be judged that way.

You said it yourself, your kids are first, everybody agrees on that, but not on pot.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Idea
After it's legal, have meetings at public parks (no smoke ins) for a family day of fun and games at the park, while some of the adults have a meeting. Invite the press!
We're just like you! surprise! That's how ya build empathy for your position, thing like the public image, do some public charity too! Give out the big oversized checks, like the corps! Or just have a program to help the elderly cause you'll be able to give shit away too! Do stuff like that to win.
Corporations do this kind shit, are they smarter?
 
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:idea:
nothing new here...
Id rather learn em :razz: and so far...So Good! :weed:(:
Id rather beat em at their own game..
and who are you again?:-?
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Who am I? Someone who cares for others Who are you? What drives your intentions? Are you making some cash, that might be driving things? What are you? I can ask very good questions too, but I can answer them honestly as well, how about you? I don't see to many health related posts in the section, just concern about the law and if your medical, ya got that covered for now, but not forever, understand this. Not me driving it, but others will, I have sympathy and want a different future, but that takes guts, don't whine if yer hunted like an animal, for forgetting to be human.

Your concerns about children are touching, fueled by scientific knowledge no doubt. Got any idea of your own?

My thing is protecting kids with the best possible policies and the most freedom for adults. Science will change the medical end of things and 90+ % of medical users will just go recreational. Won't be that many left to inspect, just the ones with over a 3 gram a day script. I think this is how it is going to be, not driving this particular agenda. With my agenda, market force and freedom will take care of the issue along with public education.


This is kinda a politics place, so let's talk it for a bit. That's what were gonna do anyway as Joe citizens soon.
I'm speaking to people in regions of the entire country, some will be activist of one kind or another. I'll be doing it on multiple platforms too, so think future time too. Some of the text here might be lifted for another purpose, so nothing is wasted.

Think about your response and give me some good ideas, cause anybody can bitch. I'll give ya a like cause I like a good discussion. I'm no snowflake either, how bout you? I'm no different in person either.
 
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DIY-HP-LED said:
Who am I? Someone who cares for others Who are you? What drives your intentions? Are you making some cash, that might be driving things? What are you? I can ask very good questions too, but I can answer them honestly as well, how about you? I don't see to many health related posts in the section, just concern about the law and if your medical, ya got that covered for now, but not forever, understand this. Not me driving it, but others will, I have sympathy and want a different future, but that takes guts, don't whine if yer hunted like an animal, for forgetting to be human.

Your concerns about children are touching, fueled by scientific knowledge no doubt. Got any idea of your own?

My thing is protecting kids with the best possible policies and the most freedom for adults. Science will change the medical end of things and 90+ % of medical users will just go recreational. Won't be that many left to inspect, just the ones with over a 3 gram a day script. I think this is how it is going to be, not driving this particular agenda. With my agenda, market force and freedom will take care of the issue along with public education.


This is kinda a politics place, so let's talk it for a bit. That's what were gonna do anyway as Joe citizens soon.
I'm speaking to people in regions of the entire country, some will be activist of one kind or another. I'll be doing it on multiple platforms too, so think future time too. Some of the text here might be lifted for another purpose, so nothing is wasted.

Think about your response and give me some good ideas, cause anybody can bitch. I'll give ya a like cause I like a good discussion. I'm no snowflake either, how bout you? I'm no different in person either.
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Why I'm in this end of the forum, seeing if anybody was hurting, so I could send them to this work in progress. Have a look, that's how I noticed the header in the section, post a link for the news, if you care, yes I can google it, but it's kinda a test.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/mindfulness-meditation-for-medical-users.950536/
 
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gb123

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Who am I? Someone who cares for others Who are you? What drives your intentions? Are you making some cash, that might be driving things? What are you? I can ask very good questions too, but I can answer them honestly as well, how about you? I don't see to many health related posts in the section, just concern about the law and if your medical, ya got that covered for now, but not forever, understand this. Not me driving it, but others will, I have sympathy and want a different future, but that takes guts, don't whine if yer hunted like an animal, for forgetting to be human.

Your concerns about children are touching, fueled by scientific knowledge no doubt. Got any idea of your own?

My thing is protecting kids with the best possible policies and the most freedom for adults. Science will change the medical end of things and 90+ % of medical users will just go recreational. Won't be that many left to inspect, just the ones with over a 3 gram a day script. I think this is how it is going to be, not driving this particular agenda. With my agenda, market force and freedom will take care of the issue along with public education.


This is kinda a politics place, so let's talk it for a bit. That's what were gonna do anyway as Joe citizens soon.
I'm speaking to people in regions of the entire country, some will be activist of one kind or another. I'll be doing it on multiple platforms too, so think future time too. Some of the text here might be lifted for another purpose, so nothing is wasted.

Think about your response and give me some good ideas, cause anybody can bitch. I'll give ya a like cause I like a good discussion. I'm no snowflake either, how bout you? I'm no different in person either.
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oh frig

SPARE US ALL....:shock:
 
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