Former top cops Fantino, Souccar launch marijuana-services business

Lightgreen2k

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Who knows? They only have to provide a better product than the black market which isn't a very high standard.

Maybe they read RIU for entertainment purposes like I do. The 5-10 black market schills regularly posting in this sub forum make a compelling case for the public to put pressure on the government to make sure the industry is heavily regulated to keep them out.

Come to think of it maybe the hypocrite and gb are working for the LPs to do just that. They make new threads every day, can't use English properly and from their own pictures, can't grow.

Or even worse they are bottom feeding scum collecting bounty from crimestoppers. It is a $1k+ reward for reporting illicit grow operations. Easy pickings for gb or hypocrite who are telling people to grow without approval to then go and report them with the information people naively put on an internet site. That would explain why they are hostile towards anyone promoting activity that isn't aligned with the black market.
Im not.getting in yours and @gb123 arguement. I doubt he is law enforcement or and Lp..

Anyhow @WHATFG Its been four years for some LPS. There are a few mom and pop lps out there with small operations.

Again these are humans. Humans can learn traits and skills. Through trial and error you learn not what to do next time..

Im saying this because I recently purchased this product..


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Its all natural predator mites : Controls thripes/broadmites/russetmites/spidermites and a few other ones.

Anyhow when I was making the order they asked me what type of crops I was using this for, and I told them. They then told me about five to six Lps are using this exact product over the past year.

After the pesticide scare lots have been improving...
 

WHATFG

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I'm really sorry you had to buy that. As far as LPs using it...don't care....I've been here the entire time this shit show has been unfolding...it wasn't a pesticide scare-it was those company's attempt to not lose money on their shitty "medicine". i will not support corporate cannabis no way no how. The small mom and pop operations should be able to hit the ground running yes?...how much time do they need to "get it right"?...
 

CalyxCrusher

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Again these are humans. Humans can learn traits and skills. Through trial and error you learn not what to do next time.
And if they're taught incorrectly from the get go? Humans are creatures of habit. And in this industry everyone is "the best" and tend to have fragile egos. If they haven't gotten it right by this point, the only way they will is to clean house and hire new growers.
 

gb123

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Im not.getting in yours and @gb123 arguement. I doubt he is law enforcement or and Lp..
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lol then STFU and stay out of it (:


I knew from before you had no clue but now I see you cant read very well at all either..
Me thinks you just like to read what you have to say..

cheers not knowing anything ears (:
 

The Hippy

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Im not.getting in yours and @gb123 arguement. I doubt he is law enforcement or and Lp..

Anyhow @WHATFG Its been four years for some LPS. There are a few mom and pop lps out there with small operations.

Again these are humans. Humans can learn traits and skills. Through trial and error you learn not what to do next time..

Im saying this because I recently purchased this product..


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Its all natural predator mites : Controls thripes/broadmites/russetmites/spidermites and a few other ones.

Anyhow when I was making the order they asked me what type of crops I was using this for, and I told them. They then told me about five to six Lps are using this exact product over the past year.

After the pesticide scare lots have been improving...
Nothing wrong with those mites......they fight the bad bugs on the surface level. Nematodes are also effective. Much better alternative to using poison or pesticides. It's natural
 

Lightgreen2k

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I'm really sorry you had to buy that. As far as LPs using it...don't care....I've been here the entire time this shit show has been unfolding...it wasn't a pesticide scare-it was those company's attempt to not lose money on their shitty "medicine". i will not support corporate cannabis no way no how. The small mom and pop operations should be able to hit the ground running yes?...how much time do they need to "get it right"?...
Dont be sorry. Its all bio based and predator mites vs spraying your crops. ALL natural Ipm methods. Intergrated pest management...
 

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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gb amigo..it IS a veritable jungle of bugs and pm out there....yes.. even for NON LP folks<---
.......bugs do not 'care; about us MED people[either] lol....this product is about as good as it gets..i hope
 

Lightgreen2k

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"Its all natural predator mites : Controls thripes/broadmites/russetmites/spidermites and a few other ones."

>>interesting..in a bottle no less..
Target Pests: Broad mites, Hemp Russet mites, Cyclamen mites, Western flower thrips, Onion thrips, and Bamboo mites


Description: Cucumeris is a species of predatory mite that feeds on immature stages of thrips. It also feeds on pollen, two-spotted mites and other species of mites. Adults are pear-shaped, tan in color, and less than 0.5mm (1/50th in.) long. Eggs are round, transparent, and 0.14mm in diamete


http://www.evergreengrowers.com/amblyseius-cucumeris-slow-release.html

The generalist predatory mite A. swirskii is widely used against other pests such as thrips and whiteflies and is also very effective in controlling broad mites. Amblyseius swirski means a much more stable biological system for plant and crop protection. It not only effectively tackles thrips and whitefly, but also attacks spider mites. Moreover, the predator is extremely mobile and has good searching behavior. Because swirskii attacks a number of pest insects, it can maintain its population even when there are no more thrips on the plants. Swirskii remains present and can act as soon as thrips reappear. Amblyseius is a beneficial predatory mite endemic to the Eastern Mediterranean region. This species is considered a generalist predator, and readily consumes small soft-bodied pest species as well as pollen or plant exudates. Amblyseius swirskii has attracted substantial interest as a biological control agent of mites, broad mites, thrips and whiteflies in greenhouse.

SWIRSKI-MITE
swirskis

https://www.buglogical.com/spider-mites/amblyseius-swirskii-25-000-slow-release-mite/
 
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Lightgreen2k

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And if they're taught incorrectly from the get go? Humans are creatures of habit. And in this industry everyone is "the best" and tend to have fragile egos. If they haven't gotten it right by this point, the only way they will is to clean house and hire new growers.
I agree with you. All I will say is that they can bring in people to help them make the changes they need.

Look at Jungle Boys for example and there massive rooms. Btw if you are a member of ICMAG Jungle Boys Is Jack Mayor from way back 2010 days..
 

Photon Flinger

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Im not.getting in yours and @gb123 arguement. I doubt he is law enforcement or and Lp..

After the pesticide scare lots have been improving...
There isn't an argument that I know of. That would require discussion and I have him on ignore.

FYI, if you want another natural way for critter control, read up on supplemental UV light. UVA works well enough, you can try it out with one of those bug zappers run during lights on to see how it works for you.
 

gb123

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There isn't an argument that I know of. That would require discussion and I have him on ignore.

FYI, if you want another natural way for critter control, read up on supplemental UV light. UVA works well enough, you can try it out with one of those bug zappers run during lights on to see how it works for you.
you no known how to scuss..
 

The Hippy

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There isn't an argument that I know of. That would require discussion and I have him on ignore.

FYI, if you want another natural way for critter control, read up on supplemental UV light. UVA works well enough, you can try it out with one of those bug zappers run during lights on to see how it works for you.
Are you afraid of GB still?
 

gb123

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Toronto's former chief is not the only ex-cop or politician to want to profit from legal marijuana, but he may be the biggest hypocrite among them

by Enzo DiMatteo

September 25, 2017

12:42 PM

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Aleafia Inc., which describes itself on its website as a “total health network." The company will essentially act as a middleman that connects prospective medicinal-marijuana users with licensed growers, according to the Globe and Mail, which broke the story over the weekend – and then promptly put it behind a paywall knowing full well the clicking frenzy Fantino's association with legal weed would touch off.

Fantino's not the only former top cop or politician to try and profit off legal weed – the list is a long one – but he may be the biggest hypocrite among them.

You don't have to look far to understand why Fantino's involvement in the burgeoning bud biz might be difficult to wrap your head around. Just google the words "Julian Fantino" and "marijuana," and what comes up is hit after hit of a career (both in politics and in policing) dedicated to a level of reefer madness that's had no equal. This is the dude who once likened decriminalizing weed to legalizing murder.

As recently as the last federal election, Fantino was claiming in an interview with the Toronto Sun that legal pot would prove a boon for organized crime, despite evidence to the contrary (like Colorado where marijuana is legal). Back then, he charged that the Libs' plan to legalize weed included opening marijuana cafes. Horrors. Fantino also distributed flyers in his Vaughan riding in 2014 claiming Justin Trudeau planned to make pot available to minors. Which is to say that when it comes to marijuana – and saving his own political ass – Fantino is prepared to say anything.

The real mind bender: Fantino also said in the Sun interview that he was offered "a lot" of money by an unnamed company to get in on the ground floor of the burgeoning bud business. All he would have to do was lend his name to the enterprise. He said, "I would never do it."

So what's changed?

Fantino told the Globe that he's "evolved" on the issue. He says it was his time as Veterans Affairs minister under Harper, during which he saw Afghan war vets turning to prescription marijuana to deal with anxiety, sleep disorders and PTSD, that was a turning point.

But that explanation doesn't quite pass the sniff test either since it was under Fantino's watch that the Veterans Affairs department recommended capping the amount of prescription marijuana vets could receive under the feds' benefits program.

It would be interesting to hear from Fantino if his newfound tolerance for marijuana extends to reparations for those, mostly Black youth, who have been saddled with life-limiting criminal records because of pot prohibition.

As OPP commish, Fantino only saw red when it came to green, establishing a "marijuana eradication program" to bust grow-ops. He claimed the operation was to counteract a growing marijuana epidemic that he claimed was fuelling the purchase of guns, cocaine and heroin. To him, marijuana was the root of all evil when it comes to the drug trade, even though it's widely accepted that most of the marijuana grown in Canada supplies the domestic market. It's safe to say Fantino has never been one to let the truth stand in the way of a good story, or photo op.

He wasn't always a buzzkill on pot. When the Liberals under Paul Martin were toying with the idea of decriminalization in 2003, Fantino instructed his officers on the Toronto force not to bust anyone holding under 30 grams. But that was more out of frustration than a belief in the idea of leniency. As long as Ottawa was taking its sweet time making up its mind on whether or not to decriminalize weed, the cops were in legal limbo.

Fantino will no doubt mine what contacts he's made in law enforcement and political circles for his new venture. His partner at Aleafia Inc., Raf Souccar, is a former undercover drug officer and RCMP deputy commissioner, and served on the PM's task force on marijuana.

It also just so happens that the director of communications at Canopy, the largest licensed marijuana producer in the country, is also a former underling of Fantino's at Veterans Affairs (and also winner of the Minister's Award of Excellence during his time there). Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
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