morgwar
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If he isn't waiting for his dogs 3rd heat to breed her, there's NO possible way he knows what he's doing in general.
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GetoBoyFarmer
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Isn't it amazing how breeding dog and cannabis goes hand in hand.
chemphlegm
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yeah, 8 month old dog aint right, should at least wait till she's a year old......
before posting pictures of her sex anyways.
before posting pictures of her sex anyways.
goldberg71b
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I meant to stop in yesterday when I saw the IG post but got lost in daily BS and forgot. I see y'all saw it and discussed it. I'm OLD SCHOOL and long time smoker. I joined here about 5 years or so ago and this is where I stayed and mostly searched for info I was interested in. None of which was breeders. I only joined IG searching for TD gear.
But this crap is unbelievable. All I can say is I don't want anything to do with people who are going to act like that and I'm talking both sides. I'll never know because I'm not going back and reading or learning about all the arguing to figure out if I cared to take a side. Cause I don't care. All I want is the seeds I desire. As far as that goes I've got a ton now. So I'm not buying anymore anytime soon. For no other reason than I can't bring what I don't pop with me when I die.
I don't know who fucked who or for that matter if anyone was fucked at all. But with the world as small as its gotten and the laws the way they are many peoples lives can be ruined with a phone call or email. I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT
It's hard enough trying to figure out if someone's problem with a breeder is the fact that they can't grow. With situations like these now you've got to consider if haters aren't pissing vinigar for other reasons. Just to ruin someone's business or even scores. I've got no time for either.
We all should be on the same side. For gods sakes let's be serious. If you sell seeds once they're bought that's it! The owner can do anything they fucking want with them. If you're a breeder and you swap cuts and have an agreement sure it should be followed by both. But if someone doesn't follow that agreement the person to be angry with is yourself! You made a bad choice in who you trusted! That's it don't trust him again!
If you've got the gold and don't want it to be grown by others you don't sell seeds! You don't sell or share cuts! You sell product any way you choose to legal or illegal and keep you genes!
But to think that me or anyone else should pay 300 or 10 bucks for seeds and think at the end of one grow we need to buy more isn't logical or reasonable. If a gem(s) is found by a quality grower who wants to be a breeder. You better believe it's ok to do so. I personally would give props to where I acquired the genetics. However if that breeder acted like a child I probably wouldn't give props and I'd rename it and carry on. But to think that a friend finding and sharing bag seeds makes you the sole provider after decades of seed distribution is insane. The only way to do that is provide a better product at a reasonable "market" rate while holding and gain market share!
I've said it before I'll say it again. If JJ wants to rule the chem world then there's a few things he has to do. But even those things won't eliminate others it would just decrease the likelihood someone would buy them elsewhere.
1- Make sure you've ALWAYS got stock
2- Don't price yourself out of the market
3- be nice to customers
4- access needs to be good and efficient
5- make sure no one provides a better product than you
6- Never lose site of your bread winners
7- Don't shit where you sleep
8- in this day in age you need to be visable and available for questions.
9- follow any and all company threads
10- Never let gossip or a bad experience by one go unchallenged. As long as your statements are valid you'll be fine.
11- That IG rant isn't what I had in mind for #10
I had no idea about this crap when I told JJ last round about this. I just don't like people talking behind people's back especially when posting conversations. Even though it wasn't private I thought it was at the time. Because what I have learned out of these spats is that it doesn't matter to him. Or he would have come here last time and said something! I guess I should say that's what I would have done. There are PLENTY of places to buy seeds. Most of which are cheaper than TD but that doesn't mean they produce a lesser product. Its not a privilege to be able to buy seeds and once you do it's yours to do with as you wish.
But this crap is unbelievable. All I can say is I don't want anything to do with people who are going to act like that and I'm talking both sides. I'll never know because I'm not going back and reading or learning about all the arguing to figure out if I cared to take a side. Cause I don't care. All I want is the seeds I desire. As far as that goes I've got a ton now. So I'm not buying anymore anytime soon. For no other reason than I can't bring what I don't pop with me when I die.
I don't know who fucked who or for that matter if anyone was fucked at all. But with the world as small as its gotten and the laws the way they are many peoples lives can be ruined with a phone call or email. I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT
It's hard enough trying to figure out if someone's problem with a breeder is the fact that they can't grow. With situations like these now you've got to consider if haters aren't pissing vinigar for other reasons. Just to ruin someone's business or even scores. I've got no time for either. We all should be on the same side. For gods sakes let's be serious. If you sell seeds once they're bought that's it! The owner can do anything they fucking want with them. If you're a breeder and you swap cuts and have an agreement sure it should be followed by both. But if someone doesn't follow that agreement the person to be angry with is yourself! You made a bad choice in who you trusted! That's it don't trust him again!
If you've got the gold and don't want it to be grown by others you don't sell seeds! You don't sell or share cuts! You sell product any way you choose to legal or illegal and keep you genes!
But to think that me or anyone else should pay 300 or 10 bucks for seeds and think at the end of one grow we need to buy more isn't logical or reasonable. If a gem(s) is found by a quality grower who wants to be a breeder. You better believe it's ok to do so. I personally would give props to where I acquired the genetics. However if that breeder acted like a child I probably wouldn't give props and I'd rename it and carry on. But to think that a friend finding and sharing bag seeds makes you the sole provider after decades of seed distribution is insane. The only way to do that is provide a better product at a reasonable "market" rate while holding and gain market share!
I've said it before I'll say it again. If JJ wants to rule the chem world then there's a few things he has to do. But even those things won't eliminate others it would just decrease the likelihood someone would buy them elsewhere.
1- Make sure you've ALWAYS got stock
2- Don't price yourself out of the market
3- be nice to customers
4- access needs to be good and efficient
5- make sure no one provides a better product than you
6- Never lose site of your bread winners
7- Don't shit where you sleep
8- in this day in age you need to be visable and available for questions.
9- follow any and all company threads
10- Never let gossip or a bad experience by one go unchallenged. As long as your statements are valid you'll be fine.
11- That IG rant isn't what I had in mind for #10
I had no idea about this crap when I told JJ last round about this. I just don't like people talking behind people's back especially when posting conversations. Even though it wasn't private I thought it was at the time. Because what I have learned out of these spats is that it doesn't matter to him. Or he would have come here last time and said something! I guess I should say that's what I would have done. There are PLENTY of places to buy seeds. Most of which are cheaper than TD but that doesn't mean they produce a lesser product. Its not a privilege to be able to buy seeds and once you do it's yours to do with as you wish.
BigLittlejohn
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lol.
Nah I will be hunting through what I already paid for, I just won't condone his douchebaggery by financially supporting any more.
If interested I'd be willing to part with the remainder of my Star Cookie pack, though.
kona gold
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That's because the reality is, no matter how big an asshole he is, and no matter how sincere everyone on here with seems to be. Especially about integrity, are all f'ing hypocrites!
Cause you know he has some of the best genetics out there.
So no matter the shit you all talk, you still going to grow them.
And if you say no you won't, then prove it, and send them to me!
morgwar
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No no no lol, were relegated to fishing through packs of crap to find a gem, just like reservoir, I've got the cdd, ssdh. I'm not giving them up either.
But ultimately with either jj or res. I'm stuck dedicating a set aside growing area and will have to devote a year or three looking for the diesel that used to be.
Res wanted 300 a pack too, back in the day.
He's got fire? No he's got kindling.
you have to make the fire yourself.
But ultimately with either jj or res. I'm stuck dedicating a set aside growing area and will have to devote a year or three looking for the diesel that used to be.
Res wanted 300 a pack too, back in the day.
He's got fire? No he's got kindling.
you have to make the fire yourself.
morgwar
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Rules for any industry.
morgwar
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Though this has become a bash thread, I will chime in if I get some good results on the 91#12.
They are handsome plants, resilient and uniform ill post pictures after the up pot bolt.
My sour bobbies are being grown up north by a buddy and so far it looks like 2 females out of 12 plants. Not very promising but I'm not clear on the genetic implications of a higher male count. Environment is a factor I'm sure.
Female frogs turn male if no males are present.
Could simply be that the original mother plant was pollinated late and triggered male seed production to offset a perceived lack of males in the vicinity.
These plants in the wild are routinely pollinated by multiple males. Hmmm
They are handsome plants, resilient and uniform ill post pictures after the up pot bolt.
My sour bobbies are being grown up north by a buddy and so far it looks like 2 females out of 12 plants. Not very promising but I'm not clear on the genetic implications of a higher male count. Environment is a factor I'm sure.
Female frogs turn male if no males are present.
Could simply be that the original mother plant was pollinated late and triggered male seed production to offset a perceived lack of males in the vicinity.
These plants in the wild are routinely pollinated by multiple males. Hmmm
BigLittlejohn
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I don't see it as hypocrisy at all. I paid for seeds and I plan to grow them. In one case I offered you the rest of my pack because I have no interest in hunting through Forum x Stardawg when I have much better cookie / chem crosses from other breeders. But I'm also not giving them away. So if you want to PayPal me some loot I will send them your way.
If dude wasn't a dick he would still be getting my money on occasion but that's not hypocrisy, that is a consumer reacting to the actions of a producer. I choose to support other breeders going forward.
If I still choose to keep the 3 chems cut that I hunted that has nothing to do with JJ. He doesn't own the genetics, the plants do.
chemphlegm
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I own/grow the best Chem genetics, anyone saying different is a fucking liar.
BigLittlejohn
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I would hope with a handle like chemphlegm you grow some fire chem strains.I own/grow the best Chem genetics, anyone saying different is a fucking liar.
chemphlegm
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since legal its been near exclusive chems for me. around 7k spent on seeds to date, many many chems later......
sure I chased every color every flavor all the cup winners.....done with fruit cups for years now...
I like it most when my non using wife says "wow, that smells like a box of moth balls" I need the napthalene like exp for my well being. I really like the grapes even though many were disappointing to me in the effects dept(subjective) I'm a pot prick and demand very specific traits to make the cut here. soon as I find another newbie pot prick he/she gonna have a sack full of half used seed packs ! a friend with seeds is a friend indeeds right
BigLittlejohn
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I like to have a diverse mix of things. My wife does use and is always wanting something fruity and I keep a few chem types going. I just got a cut of Buckeye Purple which is supposed to have strong grape flavor with decent effect. Will let u know how it works out.
cuddlesthesheep
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Never smoked a buckeye purple that really got me high.. had several. Never grown it tho. Looks beautiful tho.
BigLittlejohn
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I will run it. The person that gave me the cut hunted it so we shall see...even if it is just a decent daytime blaze I will be happy if it is tasty.
kona gold
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So you say you have grown all the chem seed strains?
Did you ever run apothecary's version?