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Taco740

Taco740

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Diabolical666 said:
Ugh horrible advice. The feeding from chem is the best advice amongst these posts.
Imho you have been overwatering and sufficating yiur roots which is locking out the nutrients you need..N Cal mag right away. Low dose of N at this stage.
Back off on the water , give it enough to dry out every 2-3 days this helps incorporate a feeding schedule in.
Transplanting: yiu should be transplanting 2-3 times threwout your grow cycle on indoor growing. Planting a seed in a field in direct sunlight is a whole different game. Planting a small seedling in a huge pot will slow down the growth cycle exponentially.
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I haven't been over watering. I water 2 maybe 3 max a week. I wait till it gets dry before I even water my plants. If anything I thought I might have been ubderwatering.

I just got a bottle of CALiMAGic a couple of days ago so I'm using that now, but how do I get more N in my plants?

And do I need to worry about my PH? If so is my soil too high? And is my run off too low?
 
StonerCol

StonerCol

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Taco740 said:
I just got a bottle of CALiMAGic a couple of days ago so I'm using that now, but how do I get more N in my plants?
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It will be useful to check the pH of your water just to know where you are starting from but ordinarily tap water shouldn't vary too much from a pH of 7. Obviously tap water can vary but it shouldn't be too far from 7 because otherwise it starts to harm humans which is the point of tap water. CalMag often gets used when there is no need for it. It isn't necessarily the solution to your problem.
You need to continue feeding grow and bloom nutes all the way through the grow because the plant still needs to grow as well as bloom. If you only use bloom nutes during the bloom phase you might well cause problems that way.
 
StonerCol

StonerCol

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Lucky Luke said:
exactly..cause soil can only buffer so much.
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No, it is more to do with the crops that are being grown. If crops that require more or less alkaline/acidic soil are being grown then the soil is amended by the farmer as required. Lime is added to soil to reduce acidic levels, allowing plants with pH level requirements above 7.0 to thrive.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Taco740 said:
I haven't been over watering. I water 2 maybe 3 max a week. I wait till it gets dry before I even water my plants. If anything I thought I might have been ubderwatering.

I just got a bottle of CALiMAGic a couple of days ago so I'm using that now, but how do I get more N in my plants?

And do I need to worry about my PH? If so is my soil too high? And is my run off too low?
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Dont worry or even test for run off PH in soil unless you REALY now what ya doing. The important one is the PH of the slurry (a mix of the soil and ur water). KISS approach. If thats in between 6 and 7 ur fine.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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StonerCol said:
No, it is more to do with the crops that are being grown. If crops that require more or less alkaline/acidic soil are being grown then the soil is amended by the farmer as required. Lime is added to soil to reduce acidic levels, allowing plants with pH level requirements above 7.0 to thrive.
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yes..and we grow a plant that likes a PH between 6 and 7.

You said that you dont need to worry about PH in soil and used Farming as analogy.

Your wrong and i also used farming as a example. Farmers do indeed PH their soil. The may use lime or other adjusters to match the crop they are growing. I used Lime as an example and your fixating on that and the effect it has.

Stop trying to defend your point cause its wrong.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Id also like to point out that a farmer growing acres of crop is completely different to growing small numbers in pots.

A cared for tomato plant for eg will always be more productive if done in a pot at home than any of the 1000's in a field.
 
StonerCol

StonerCol

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Lucky Luke said:
You said that you dont need to worry about PH in soil
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And that is true - unless you have a really fucked up water supply. You used the farming analogy and I just went with it. Of course commercial farming is different but what is not different is how roots react in a 1 gallon pot or a field. The plant knows no different, until it becomes root bound in the pot which won't happen in a field.

A seed planted a half inch under soil doesn't know/care whether it is in a pot or a field, in terms of its' root development.
Lucky Luke said:
A cared for tomato plant for eg will always be more productive if done in a pot at home than any of the 1000's in a field.
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Depends who is doing the caring and their knowledge/experience.
Lucky Luke said:
Stop trying to defend your point cause its wrong.
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No it isn't wrong at all. If it is then provide evidence. Your opinion is no more valid than mine. Most soil growers that I know of don't worry about pH because they use appropriate soil. If the soil is inappropriate and/or the water supply is really crap then it is different. In normal circumstances it is not necessary to pH the water.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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StonerCol said:
And that is true - unless you have a really fucked up water supply. You used the farming analogy and I just went with it. Of course commercial farming is different but what is not different is how roots react in a 1 gallon pot or a field. The plant knows no different, until it becomes root bound in the pot which won't happen in a field.

A seed planted a half inch under soil doesn't know/care whether it is in a pot or a field, in terms of its' root development.

Depends who is doing the caring and their knowledge/experience.

No it isn't wrong at all. If it is then provide evidence. Your opinion is no more valid than mine. Most soil growers that I know of don't worry about pH because they use appropriate soil. If the soil is inappropriate and/or the water supply is really crap then it is different. In normal circumstances it is not necessary to pH the water.
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Bugeye

Bugeye

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It's your soil ph that matters in a soil grow. Water ph matters,but not a lot if it is soft water.

There are great reasons to transplant, just not when the seed is just popped. You can start in seedling soil, go to 50/50, then to full strength soil, a gentle transition. Each and every transplant you can inoculate very effectively with myco fungi, a great benefit in organics. You save energy in early veg by running smaller lights. You don't leach nutes out of your soil as much before roots can get to them, and each transplant of fresh dirt is all the food they need for several weeks. Easy as fuck to get through veg on this routine. In short, those opposed to transplanting are big scaredy cats. Grow a pair!
 
ANC

ANC

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Farming is a whole other ballgame. The Fertiliser guys can take samples of your soil, and the based on things like analysis of the nutrient contents of the crop you tell them you want to farm with can tell you exactly how much of what fertiliser should go into hit a specific yield. They are really good with this by now. I think as they start to incorporate cannabis into their routines in legal states, the proper data will be available for all in very little time.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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ANC said:
Farming is a whole other ballgame. The Fertiliser guys can take samples of your soil, and the based on things like analysis of the nutrient contents of the crop you tell them you want to farm with can tell you exactly how much of what fertiliser should go into hit a specific yield. They are really good with this by now. I think as they start to incorporate cannabis into their routines in legal states, the proper data will be available for all in very little time.
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My state grows opium poppies for big pharma and its amazing what they can do.
The farmer is basically an employee on his own land and has to do exactly what the poppie company tells him to do. Which they dont mind of cause as it takes away the guessing game and the sleepless nights of how much if any they should water tomorrow. It will show up on their laptop.
 
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