N def or necrosis plez help

giglewigle

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Im growing under led 5 gals canna terra soil its only hapening to one i cant figure out wat this is there about 4 weeks into flower i waited till the pot was light as it was gunna get it was dry a whole figer down is it possible the soil being to dry killed the micro herd its in a fabric pot the unnafected one is in plastic so probly dident dry out as mutch please help i need this for my adhd i cant fuck this up20170727_225854.jpg 20170727_225828.jpg 20170727_225820.jpg
 

Johnei

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Overwatered(maybe in the near past if not this most recent watering), or plant is hungry.

I see purple on the leaf veins also that I don't think is genetic. Or might just be picture color trickery?
 

Johnei

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I know it sounds contradictory, but this could also be from too much food/salt buildup in the medium = pH issues showing weird deficiency fooling the observer into thinking they need more.

Sorry to confuse man.
lol
 

giglewigle

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Overwatered(maybe in the near past if not this most recent watering), or plant is hungry.
i fed yesterday with coconut water kelppowder and yates liquid compost and somw great white it alraedy had this this yesterday when i went 2 feed her was one lowest leaves dead plus one was showing signs of it just no where near this bad u think i should stop feed water ing like that and use some nutes the ph of the soil is 7 btw my tap water come out at 6.8 i bubbled it for about 24 hours iv got some bio boost and some bioflores u think i should swich to that next tim i feed
 

Johnei

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I think you should feed clean water only more often, and if yellowing progresses and whole plant starts leaning to a more light green color, you know they're hungry, if the yellow stop in it's tracks, you know it was buildup. Because there is no "this will fix it" answer I feel, it's a small mystery.

(Full plant pic would help, maybe.)
 

giglewigle

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I know it sounds contradictory, but this could also be from too much food/salt buildup in the medium = pH issues showing weird deficiency fooling the observer into thinking they need more.

Sorry to confuse man.
lol
cool cool im glad iv got some one to give me suggestions lol so many i should get her some disstilled water with some graet white its got b vitamins in it i havent used any thing synthetic only teas like soil probiotics and kelp n stuff 100 percent organic i dident know that could cuse nute build up it could be that tho i dont thing if used straight water with her maybe only once
 

giglewigle

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I think you should feed clean water only more often, and if yellowing progresses and whole plant starts leaning to a more light green color, you know they're hungry, if the yellow stop in it's tracks, you know it was buildup. Because there is no "this will fix it" answer I feel, it's a small mystery.
i love a good mystyrie glass half full if i can figure this out in time ittle onky make me a more experienced grower besides it could be worse i could have spider mites or somthing worse harder 2 dieal with cheers for tje help man apreciate it
 

giglewigle

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i think the purple vains is from my leds and the green parts are acualy light green yellow ill try and get some better pics 2 morro
 

ANC

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Vitamin B1 etc is best applied BEFORE stresses and every 10 days after as it gets used up that fast.
I also think you have deficiencies, purple spots on leaves as well as light spots between veins, go look it up, it is an easy one (one of the primary nutrients). Same applies for purple veins and stems... it is a primary nutrient used up in as little as 3 days.
 

Johnei

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If you hardly fed clean water only, and have been pumping the teas, it is more likely you have nutrient buildup, especially if the soil is rich with organic ingredients from the start. Organic nutrients take time, all is not used emedietly when fed. Soil holds onto nutrients and releases them to the plant in a slow release manor. clean waters after a feeding, teas or synthetics, both need some clean water after, because that clean water you can consider is actually still fertilizing the plant, using what is still there in the soil, water as the carrier. Nothin is a for sure right? only you know what you did. If your teas are just worm castings lets say, overfeeding shouldn't happen really. If you are making rich teas with all kinds of things, overload can happen even in organics. and wont show emedietly like in hydro if you burn the plants, can slowly burn for a while. only clean water watering can help the plant work out of it. flushing wont do shit, by the way. Nutrients are bonded to soil and humic matrix.
 

giglewigle

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i feel what use are saying is corect ill feed clean water from now on i only hope i dident fuck it up enough 2 get a harvest not worried about yield really if i can manage 2 get a few grams of some decent bud ill be happy besides i got my no till soil today plus i got this stuff called aration mix its a mix of aration amendments i also got a all in one super soil mix it came in a one kilo pack wich will make around 120 liters of soil when mixed with coco so while thats cooking ill use the no till but it will be even funner to do a comparison with the strain im growing now witch up untill now was right where she needed 2 be hay before i forget for for weeks in flower would u say its where she sould be for for weeks in
 

giglewigle

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Vitamin B1 etc is best applied BEFORE stresses and every 10 days after as it gets used up that fast.
I also think you have deficiencies, purple spots on leaves as well as light spots between veins, go look it up, it is an easy one (one of the primary nutrients). Same applies for purple veins and stems... it is a primary nutrient used up in as little as 3 days.
so i went on grow weed easy and im 99 percent sure i have a phosphorus def http://www.growweedeasy.com/phosphorus-deficiency-cannabis i am strugling with temps at the highest it was 30 lowest has been 10 i have been a bit slack i think ill turn on the seed mat at night i think high temps like 30c would be better than having temps as low as 10c especialy if the root zone is at a more compfertable temp ill use clean water and keep better controll of temps thanks guy ill udate the recovery
 

giglewigle

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Idealy you want about 24.5C in the light period and about 19C in the dark.
Ye i think i gotta change when tha dark period is lights off is abot 6 in the morning i think i should change it to 12 so it comes on at six thank u so mutch for your help bro i feel alot less stressed over this @Johnei looken at you to bro cheers
 

giglewigle

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okay its 3 in the morning when the suns up i can get proper pics wouldent say its gotten worse but its hard to tell so i gues thats a sign might benn 3 days since last water shes a bit droppy so i dont know how to tell if she needs water debating with my self wether or not i shold wait a day or to and only give her like a small amount of water but i cant get past the thought of there only being a tiny bit of water not like i wanna flood it but like a tiny part of the soil is wet moist and the rest is like bonedry not sure what to do
 

ANC

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This last leaf is bad, it is showing problems with access to metals like iron.
The second pic from the bottom is typical from magnesium deficiency/lockout.
 

giglewigle

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This last leaf is bad, it is showing problems with access to metals like iron.
The second pic from the bottom is typical from magnesium deficiency/lockout.
so if the temps are the root at the problem getting temps on track normal growth should resume ye im down to thinking its temps or ph im leaning more to temps if it was a ph problam i was gunna ditch being organic for the rest of the grow and use that ph perfect stuff im gunna go check the soil temps
 
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