Ending the Ronald Reagan Lie

[abandonconflict]

Frankly, the debate over the electoral college is something of a red herring.

So you don't mind that an archaic constitutional clause regarding black people being considered 3/5 of a person having influenced our electoral process, causing a fascist carrot to gain control of the gov't is worth debating and that it is a fallacy to do so?

 

[Fogdog]

Oh so now you are going to try and talk to me like a human being? After insulting me all morning yesterday and today? I don't owe you an explanation for shit. Go back to your copy and paste spam, Bernie Ballwasher. Pada will be along shortly to give you some pity likes.

hypocrite*
*copyright, Bernocrats for Freedom, sponsored by the Freedom Partners Action Fund

 

[ttystikk]

Democracy 2.0: Bernitocracy*

Vote like a Bernocrat* or stay home because you aren't qualified.
*sponsored by the Freedom Partners Action Fund

What does this even mean?

Are you telling me not to vote in my own best interest?

I tried that and it didn't work out. Of course, I realize that most people really want to believe in something.

You believe in the Democratic Party and that's fine. When they actually start standing up for people who aren't millionaires I'll start believing in them, too.

 

[Fogdog]

So you don't mind that an archaic constitutional clause regarding black people being considered 3/5 of a person having influenced our electoral process, causing a fascist carrot to gain control of the gov't is worth debating and that it is a fallacy to do so?

3/5 of a vote is too much for a people who are unable to decide what's in their own self interest.

 

[ttystikk]

It still matters. You don't have to be completely happy about either, but one will generally be a better choice.

You can't deny that. You vote. So you're picking somebody over somebody else.
You must have a reason for it, right?

I'm advocating for an actual choice.

D vs R, where both are firmly in the pockets of monied interests, is no longer a choice in any significant sense of the term.

If you really believed in Democratic ideals, why are you hounding me about my right to vote for whom I choose?

That's the basic contradiction all the howling Dems here will do anything to obscure.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

I'm advocating for an actual choice.

D vs R, where both are firmly in the pockets of monied interests, is no longer a choice in any significant sense of the term.

If you really believed in Democratic ideals, why are you hounding me about my right to vote for whom I choose?

That's the basic contradiction all the howling Dems here will do anything to obscure.

Hounding you?

whatever, man.

 

[ttystikk]

Bernocrats* need their own forum to prevent people who can't decide for themselves what's in their best interests from polluting pure Bernietocracy*.
*sponsored by the Freedom Partners Action Fund

Right. Because you can't argue or debate honestly.

 

[_gresh_]

Hounding you?

whatever, man.

He is really good at playing the victim.

 

[SneekyNinja]

He is really good at playing the victim.

He's such a poor, oppressed (chubby virgin) white man.

Im sure he's crying in PM's to his support group now.

 

[ttystikk]

Hounding you?

whatever, man.

Sorry if I'm a little defensive; there's a half dozen socks chasing me around the section these days.

I'll try to keep them separate from the honest debaters here.

 

[Fogdog]

What does this even mean?

Are you telling me not to vote in my own best interest?

I tried that and it didn't work out. Of course, I realize that most people really want to believe in something.

You believe in the Democratic Party and that's fine. When they actually start standing up for people who aren't millionaires I'll start believing in them, too.

"Because its all corrupt." No need to be specific about who. Just cynic your way through. Easy.

And the proof that Bernocrats* are superior in their cynicism and ultimate knowledge of what's right and wrong?
*sponsored by the Freedom Partners Action Fund

Zero candidates endorsed or sponsored by Bernie and his PAC, Our Revolution (snicker) have won an election. No sign of corruption here! No sign of popular support either. I know which of the two you would use as a reason/excuse for failure.

Then again, Our Revolution doesn't disclose donations, so who's to know?

 

[ttystikk]

"Because its all corrupt." No need to be specific about who. Just cynic your way through. Easy.

And the proof that Bernocrats* are superior in their cynicism and ultimate knowledge of what's right and wrong?
*sponsored by the Freedom Partners Action Fund

Zero candidates endorsed or sponsored by Bernie and his PAC, Our Revolution (snicker) have won an election. No sign of corruption here! No sign of popular support either. I know which of the two you would use as a reason/excuse for failure.

Then again, Our Revolution doesn't disclose donations, so who's to know?

You brought Bernie into this discussion, not me.

It's been 40 years since Reagan was elected. If the establishment opposition was going to do something to stop this, don't you think they would have done it by now?

But keep worshiping a party that doesn't give a fuck about you.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Sorry if I'm a little defensive; there's a half dozen socks chasing me around the section these days.

I'll try to keep them separate from the honest debaters here.

Like I said yesterday, the glass is half full.

I'm OK, you're OK.

Any views I have are really to benefit others who don't have what you and I do.

And to improve the country, which seems to be in turmoil since last November.

 

[ttystikk]

Like I said yesterday, the glass is half full.

I'm OK, you're OK.

Any views I have are really to benefit others who don't have what you and I do.

And to improve the country, which seems to be in turmoil since last November.

I'm here to do the same thing.

It seems there are several people here who will spend all day posting memes to keep people in the dark and eating bullshit.

As long as it's THEIR bullshit, it's fine!

 

[ttystikk]

"Because its all corrupt." No need to be specific about who. Just cynic your way through. Easy.

And the proof that Bernocrats* are superior in their cynicism and ultimate knowledge of what's right and wrong?
*sponsored by the Freedom Partners Action Fund

Zero candidates endorsed or sponsored by Bernie and his PAC, Our Revolution (snicker) have won an election. No sign of corruption here! No sign of popular support either. I know which of the two you would use as a reason/excuse for failure.

Then again, Our Revolution doesn't disclose donations, so who's to know?

The accusation that I'm an ignorant cynic does not absolve you from defending your position that the Democratic Party is NOT corrupt.

I'm posting thread after thread to show their corruption and how it works; you come back with personal smears of 'cynicism' and nothing.

Believe what you like.

 

[_gresh_]

I'm here to do the same thing.

It seems there are several people here who will spend all day posting memes to keep people in the dark and eating bullshit.

As long as it's THEIR bullshit, it's fine!

Going for a more passive aggressive approach now, I see. How incredibly boring and predictable.

 

[Fogdog]

You brought Bernie into this discussion, not me.

It's been 40 years since Reagan was elected. If the establishment opposition was going to do something to stop this, don't you think they would have done it by now?

But keep worshiping a party that doesn't give a fuck about you.

mmhumm.

And which party is forcing a debate right now to repeal healthcare for 30 million people?

Can you name any "corrupt Democrats", ones who are currently under investigation for corruption right now? A true cynic wouldn't know or even care to know.

 

[Fogdog]

The accusation that I'm an ignorant cynic does not absolve you from defending your position that the Democratic Party is NOT corrupt.

I'm posting thread after thread to show their corruption and how it works; you come back with personal smears of 'cynicism' and nothing.

Believe what you like.

Being an ignorant cynic somehow makes you above criticism?

LOL, "personal smear". pity party. You said you were a cynic in an earlier post. I'm listening and that's what you said.

 

[ttystikk]

mmhumm.

And which party is forcing a debate right now to repeal healthcare for 30 million people?

Can you name any "corrupt Democrats", ones who are currently under investigation for corruption right now? A true cynic wouldn't know or even care to know.

I'm posting my evidence for all to see in threads on this section.

Just because the parties have legalized corruption and would therefore escape scrutiny for it does not mean that the same activities are not inimical to democracy or the greater good of the vast majority of the American People.

In other words, your argument is false and misleading.

 

[ttystikk]

Being an ignorant cynic somehow makes you above criticism?

LOL, "personal smear". pity party. You said you were a cynic in an earlier post. I'm listening and that's what you said.

I'm cynical and sceptical that the Democratic Party has my interests in mind, yes. I think I have good reason to be.

Calling me ignorant is cynical in itself. Perhaps you're the cynic?

Is 'pity party' an argument or a smear?