sandhill larry
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I lost a couple of Peach early to termites. They will wilt like that. But the stalk will be ate right at or below ground level. Now I use DE around everything.
WTF... overwatering?
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sandhill larry
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No, it's a BST strain I crossed. {Sister strain to Rotten Stinking Bastard} The mother got her name from the peach tree I planted in the hole with her. I didn't know there was a Peach strain. I may have to Gorille de Raisin it's ass to Peche now that I know that.
marcospartida
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Is the main stem loose? I had a plant like that years ago die from a golpher eatting the roots..but i seen you are using smart pots ..another time had a loose plant it was broken and maggots where eatting the plant from the main stem inside of it near the bottom...or just bad luck
Buba Blend
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Funny thing about watering is there are more than one way to do it right. For one person runoff works, for another no runoff works, for some watering quickly works, for others watering slowly works. If the person who waters slowly starts watering slowly to runoff they will saturate their pots with to much water. If the person who waters quickly does not water to runoff he will leave his pot with dry spots.
^^^ 1st time I ever thought about it this way. What do you guys think? Does it make sense?
Plant is gone but pic will live forever. I'm with @MjMama fusarium wilt. I can see it was a happy plant recently, your other plants are happy, I can't see how you could have screwed it up watering.
chemphlegm
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you grow in 100 gallon soil and add only 4 gallons of water when soil is dry. this is your issue. chronic underwatering.
start here. water a 100 gallon pot with 20 gallons of water and walk away. when the soil is dry to the bottom, not wilting plants, water again the same. my five gallon pot gets one gallon of water this way. do the math?
Buba Blend
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So the picture. Do you see the possibility of fusarium wilt in the picture or are you saying from the picture it is not?
Dutchieman420
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California is really hot and unless u are right on our coastline watering is very very dependant on weather!
Most of us around here live with our plants and spend slot of time around them, this is why overwatering is a big issue with some farmers.
The only time I have seen underwatering in a habitual way was a guerrilla grow where we had to hike up soil nutes and worst of all water. Every freaking puff of that harvest was hard earned
The jar thing I was referring to is more an indoor grow& smaller backyard grows although a nifty trick I have een fuckin with the last few years has been a convenience thing.
Wen using a hose i use a jar or picher and poor 1or2 full vessels onto the next plant when running the hose on the previous
This kinda preps the soil for better absorption once u rotate ur hose
Buba Blend
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Thanks! Cruisin the forums I didn't realize I was in the outdoor section. I was talking as an indoor grower in 3 or 5 gallon pots. I guess outdoors or in a green house a plant can fall that fast from under watering. I guess I'm looking at it from an indoor growers perspective. Curious what the OP has to say about the under watering because he seems to be enough of a gardener to know if he had a watering problem. I'm not arguing the math chemphlegm gave. My gut feels if his other plants are healthy and he has a green house with other plants that are healthy (I'm assuming that) that he would know if he had a watering problem that would make the plant drop that fast and if I'm not mistaken die.
chemphlegm
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I wouldnt count that out, or over heated, or fed some whacked ph, or poisoned too. but from the picture the first thing I see, coupled with the information given by op....is an under watering issue 4 gallons of water in that size container is barely watering the topsoil, leaving roots to dangle in huge dry spots with no reason to travel any further out to more dry soil. water till completely wet, then not again till the day before they wilt from being dry.
you first begin to notice Fusarium when you see little dark spots on your plant’s lower leaves. The affected leaves become yellowish brown, and then the tips will start turning upward, and wilting will start. I dont see any of those signs except for wilting.
Dutchieman420
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I am firm in my belef that good genetics account for leaps and bounds in this random problems area
Just like tobacco corn tomatoes, everything resistance to everything from bugs to yeilds vs. water ratio + light wattage vs. yeilds. It all is improved if people are diligent with breeding practices.
We call growing males 'especially with fire ' for more reasons than accidental breeding if anyone has some really good males and want to hook a brotha up with some pollen for my blue cut cookies let me know plz. I will need it sooner rather than later I would want to talk about the strains first
jensenbeach1
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I had similar thing happen but it was branch by branch or quarter of the plant. I was talking with an experience grower and he says thats from russet mites? There is no signs of damage because they get inside the plant he said they arent visible they ride on the backs of spider mites?? Only way to know if you have them is when you start seeing that wilt happen oddly throughout plant
petert
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Thanks for all the replies!
Just to try to fill in info again.. the plant 5+ feet tall and 5+ feet wide was perfectly healthy looking one day and completely wilted and dead 2 days later.
Having dealt with Russet mites last year I take sample leaves from most of my plants in the greenhouse at least twice a week and look at any suspect looking (non perfect) leaves through a 30x and then a 60x magnification.
I have seen very minimal numbers of spider mites on 2-3 of the 15 plants in the greenhouse.. those are being managed by Green Lacewing Larvae. I haven't sprayed Green Cleaner since I introduced the Larvae.
I water daily and use a moisture meter at various spots in the pots. The plant was definitely not suffering from underwatering as the soil I dug out from the pot was moist in all areas of the pot.
The roots did not appear to me to show signs of root rot.. but admittedly I've never dealt with that either.. they looked healthy and were spread out all around the 100 gallon soil saver pot.
I sure hope it's not weak genetics.. I have a total of 33 plants and the 15 in my greenhouse are huge and clones I purchased (Agent Orange and Black Cherry Soda) I don't have any proof of how solid their genetics are like my Bubba's Gift and Black DOG.
Started small
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Its the sun I just brought a plant that's been in the sun since seed and it got rainy and cloudy a few days really cloudy so I put them under my 1200 watt led when the clouds were gone a few days later put them out instantly looked like that it was hot bright and dry but was watered good from the soil
jensenbeach1
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You have to harden your plant off you will kill them everytime going into the uv rays
Started small
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Yea that's true but my seeds started in the with no hardening just from when I brought em out the day it wasn't cloudy anymore a 2 day stay under led to sun the didn't like it
jensenbeach1
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Still getting uvs regardless of shade you need get sgsde cloth and set them under it for at least a week