UncleBuck
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do you seriously not get it at all?
or did schuylaar hack your account to ask people for citations?
bernie sanders: regressive
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or did schuylaar hack your account to ask people for citations?
ttystikk
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And yet she's not living in the White House.
Another excuse.
If she had a real platform instead of a string of weasel words, she'd have slaughtered the Chump campaign.
But she was the official candidate of Wall Street and she couldn't fool the voters as well as the Chump.
And that's just plain pathetic.
SneekyNinja
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53%
Hillary won the vote, snowflake.
Why not rail against the EC instead of your own party?
ttystikk
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And yet she's not sleeping in the White House, Stinkydigit.
She blew it. Against a serial liar reality TV show host.
That's pathetic. Clearly, you can relate.
UncleBuck
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yet the wall street demographic voted against her, while the working class and middle class voted for her.
this is literally how our conversation just went:
you: "if she had just appealed to the middle class, she would won"
me: "she did win the middle class and working class by significant margins"
you: "that's just an excuse, she was all wall street"
me: "she lost wall street class by a ton"
what weird non-fact will you repeat next?
UncleBuck
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why are you stuck in the past?
hillary lost, get over it.
you and pada and stow and schuy badmouthing her the whole time didn't help. it actually just made you guys look like cucks.
i voted for hillary proudly because she is a motherfucking badass. an old flaw designed to give power to slave states turned her win into a loss. oh well.
you guys cried about how horrible she was then agreed to vote for her. what the fuck is wrong with you cucks? vote for someone you believe in.
after all the badmouthing you did of her why do you blame her for losing?
Xcoregamerskillz
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Great points, but she lost because she couldn't convince the rust belt that she'd bring back the jobs lost by NAFTA, really what happened. Those swung states lost her the election.
This thread is a perfect example of why the Republicans continue to win however. Clear concise messaging and few idealists causing infighting among the party.
If the democrats want to capture more seats some symbolic changing of the old guard has to happen. It's time for Pelosi to go, perhaps a few others.
Don't defend Hillary's campaign though, it really was months of "Look what he just said/did. Can you believe it. People who vote for him are deorable." And the leaks definitely hurt her run, as well as the damn e-mails. Plus the Clinton foundation shenanigans. Yeah, the EC fucked us, but Hillary also fucked herself. The Democrats need to take responsibility for that loss, as well as recent special election losses, instead of just pointing fingers.
Padawanbater2
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lol
I didn't vote for her
But look what you just tried to do there.. You condemn those that don't vote for her, then you condemn those that do vote for her..
That'll win elections..
You have no convictions. That's another reason you lost.
UncleBuck
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ummmm, are you trying to convince me that hillary spent months calling trump voters deplorable?
are you certain that you are not misremembering what hillary actually said, and for how long she said it?
what you just said is so profoundly false that i cannot believe someone who claims to be on the not dumb side of politics would say it.
she said it once or twice. and what she said is 100% correct. it just hurt their little feelings.
You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people -- now 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks -- they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America."
"But the other basket -- and I know this because I see friends from all over America here -- I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas -- as well as, you know, New York and California -- but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different.
name one false thing she said there.
Xcoregamerskillz
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To clarify, I didn't mean. She said they were deplorable for months, but the majority of her campaign was basically "I'm not Trump. I'll give you four more years of what you already have." There were a lot of people that didn't want 4 more years of the status quo.
My mistake.
Also, I'm not trying to convince you of anything.
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Justin-case
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Stfu, retard!
UncleBuck
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that they are 8700% more likely to be killed by a right wing white male.
PCXV
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It's like you put 20 different articles in a blender. Honestly, wtf?! Did a tornado hit your post?Mexican illegal immigrant who has been removed from the US SEVEN times had 'drunk 12 beers and was driving at 100mph' when he crashed his van and killed a father-of-three
By Dailymail.com Reporter 15:52 EDT 11 Jul 2017, updated 16:39 EDT 11 Jul 2017
- Nemias Garcia-Velasco, 32, was charged with motor vehicle homicide
- He reportedly told officers he had '12 beers' before getting behind wheel
- Prsosecutors say he was going over 100mph when he lost control of van
- The crash killed Silvano Torres, 58, who was riding in the cargo area of the van
- Prosecutors said Garcia-Velasco has been removed from US total of seven times
Nemias Garcia-Velasco (pictured), 32, was allegedly going over 100mph when he lost control of his 2001 Dodge Ram work van and crashed, killing 58-year-old Silvano Torres
An illegal immigrant, who has been removed from the United States seven times, had consumed '12 beers and was driving at 100mph' when he crashed his van and killed a father-of-three.
Nemias Garcia-Velasco, 32, who is from Mexico, was going over 100mph when he lost control of his 2001 Dodge Ram work van and crashed, killing 58-year-old Silvano Torres.
Prosecutor Ryan Lindberg said Garcia-Velasco was driving down Interstate 80 around 1pm on Wednesday when the incident occurred.
Garcia-Velasco told officers that he had consumed 12 beers the previous evening into the morning of the crash, according to the Omaha World-Herald.
During Garcia-Velasco's hearing, Lindberg also said the man had been removed from the US a total of seven times.
After two deportation hearings, in 2009 and 2011, Garcia-Velasco was forced out of the country and the five other times were considered 'voluntary returns'.
Lindberg also added that Garcia-Velasco had also been convicted of having false citizenship papers prior to the crash, just a day after the Fourth of July holiday.
Prosecutor Ryan Lindberg said Garcia-Velasco was driving down Interstate 80 around 1pm on Wednesday when the incident occurred. Garcia-Velasco reportedly told cops he consumed 12 beers the previous evening into the morning of the crash. Pictured is the burned-out van
During Garcia-Velasco's hearing, Lindberg also said the man had been removed from the US a total of seven times. After two deportation hearings, in 2009 and 2011, Garcia-Velasco was forced out of the country and the five other times were considered 'voluntary returns'
At the time, Torres was riding unrestrained in the cargo area of the van. He was pronounced dead at the fiery scene (pictured). Another passenger, Jesus I. Gonzalez, 16, was treated at the hospital and released the day of the crash
Garcia-Velasco's blood-alcohol level was .243 when it was checked at a hospital after the crash, according to the Herald.
At the time, Torres was riding unrestrained in the cargo area of the van. He was pronounced dead at the fiery scene.
Another passenger, Jesus I. Gonzalez, 16, was treated at the hospital and released the day of the crash.
Garcia-Velasco suffered from severe burns to his face and was taken to the Nebraska Medical Center at the time.
Rosa Flores, who had been dating Torres, said he loved talking about his two daughters and his son.
Torres had documentation to be in the US, she told the Herald, adding that he had lived in Omaha for nearly six years.
The pair were on their way to their respective homes after leaving a job patching a roof because it got too hot.
Garcia-Velasco was charged with motor vehicle homicide in the death of Torres. His bail was set at $2 million.
Garcia-Velasco suffered from severe burns to his face and was taken to the Nebraska Medical Center at the time. Garcia-Velasco was charged with motor vehicle homicide in the death of Torres. Pictured are first responders at the scene of the crash
Justin-case
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Yep, they've been targets many robberies. The idea being that they don't have bank accounts, and carry large amounts of cash.
goldberg71b
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There's video for those who want to see this bozo handle herself with an issue this serious!
UncleBuck
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ttystikk
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Yeah, there's also plenty of the same kind of video showing your hero of the common Man, president Chump himself, also doing the same and worse.
So what?
The hyper partisan 'they're crazy/criminals but our guy is just learning' bullshit is what destroys the credibility of everyone who engages in it.
Wake up. Unless you're making $400k a year or more, YOU'RE getting fucked over too- no matter who you voted for.
PCXV
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Boring. Nothing funny about the question, whatever the context of her laughing it is unrelates to North Korea.