My First Vert

ttystikk

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As with candy, the black dog is nearing finish but is lacking density and bud size. Especially from what im used to from 600w HPS. Am I doing something wrong?
It's not really taking up much water lately, it has been hot here, as high as 33c.humidity 50% roughly too.. Is this a factor?

What can I do?
I'm surprised it isn't taking more water.
 

JDMase

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I'm surprised it isn't taking more water.
Ive had this a few times, towards the end of the cycle, I'll water the same amount and it'll just flood the cube. The cube where it would normally be drying by the next watering won't be. Not to mention ive got 1 metre slabs below it now for the past 2 weeks. Maybe the root mass has expanded and its drinking elsewhere? Doesn't explain all the previous times this has happened when not adding medium.

Pretty disappointing yields expected this grow. :(
 

coreywebster

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Did you ever get your trays you were after? I would abandon using rockwool until you have an aeriated res and and automated system. Just seems your using a hydro medium without the benefit of a hydro system and it has to be contributing to the problems you've had this run.
P.S I am biased I hate rockwool.
Build yourself a ebb and flood system. use hydroton instead of rockwool. :cool:
 

JDMase

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Did you ever get your trays you were after? I would abandon using rockwool until you have an aeriated res and and automated system. Just seems your using a hydro medium without the benefit of a hydro system and it has to be contributing to the problems you've had this run.
P.S I am biased I hate rockwool.
Build yourself a ebb and flood system. use hydroton instead of rockwool. :cool:
Yep I got them! Putting them in tonight! My next task will be to set up an automated watering system.
I don't think hand watering is a bad thing, ive looked pretty extensively and there is no problem with top feeding by hand. Gonna keep at it until im out of rockwool (around 9 more plants) and I can always switch to coco.

I think I stuck at Low PPM's for too long and having my timer set from 9pm to 9am has limited my time with the plants.
 

coreywebster

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Yep I got them! Putting them in tonight! My next task will be to set up an automated watering system.
I don't think hand watering is a bad thing, ive looked pretty extensively and there is no problem with top feeding by hand. Gonna keep at it until im out of rockwool (around 9 more plants) and I can always switch to coco.

I think I stuck at Low PPM's for too long and having my timer set from 9pm to 9am has limited my time with the plants.
Yeah I looked long and hard myself into hand watering rockwool after seeing your issues. Although I saw folks saying its fine I just think the lack of an aeriated tank and constant feed or timed feed takes away some of the benefits of hydro.

That's said I'm glad you finally got those trays so you can give it a good go next run.
 

JDMase

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Yeah I looked long and hard myself into hand watering rockwool after seeing your issues. Although I saw folks saying its fine I just think the lack of an aeriated tank and constant feed or timed feed takes away some of the benefits of hydro.

That's said I'm glad you finally got those trays so you can give it a good go next run.
Yeah the main problem has been not being able to fully flood the medium, and not able to do it more than once a day as I like to leave two hours before the last feed and I'll be fucked if im getting up at 6:30 am to water plants lol. Amongst other things

Autoflowers were so much easier for me in Rockwool. I got amazing buds and big yields. I think that's why im so pissed because I put so much time into the veg of these.

I need to figure out a irrigation method. I would like a timer to go on a water butt and just gave a gravity feed system. Dunno if that's possible. I don't really have anymore plug sockets for a pump you see.
 

DST

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Have you ever thought about just using soil or even coco? Or are you stuck on using a hydro method? I posted some pics of my moveable vert plant on the UK growers thread (sorry, forgot I said I would post a pic here). I use 1 tray (about 100litres I think) and a pot about 50litres. The moveable plant is normally in a 11 to 20 litre pot depending on its size. I water every 3rd day (sometimes 2nd day for the moveable one). I normally have around 4 plants in a 1.2m squared.
 

coreywebster

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Timer on a water butt. I had been thinking about this myself for my strawberrys outside. I'm sure there must be something available.
Would of thought power supply would be needed though, can you imagine if the timer ran on a battery and it went dead and didn't shut off the water supply!
 

DST

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Timer on a water butt. I had been thinking about this myself for my strawberrys outside. I'm sure there must be something available.
Would of thought power supply would be needed though, can you imagine if the timer ran on a battery and it went dead and didn't shut off the water supply!
I've thought about this when going on holiday. Installing a drip system or such like. But yey, para about it soaking all the downstairs neighbours if something goes wrong. lol.
 

coreywebster

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I've thought about this when going on holiday. Installing a drip system or such like. But yey, para about it soaking all the downstairs neighbours if something goes wrong. lol.
That's how one of my mates got busted. He had a whole house "in use", every room. A pump stayed on and flooded through into next door. Fire brigade had to bust the door down and then phoned the law...
 

JDMase

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Have you ever thought about just using soil or even coco? Or are you stuck on using a hydro method? I posted some pics of my moveable vert plant on the UK growers thread (sorry, forgot I said I would post a pic here). I use 1 tray (about 100litres I think) and a pot about 50litres. The moveable plant is normally in a 11 to 20 litre pot depending on its size. I water every 3rd day (sometimes 2nd day for the moveable one). I normally have around 4 plants in a 1.2m squared.
Yeah I specifically chose rockwool because I didn't want to use soil and coco. I liked hydro but didn't want to worry about bubblers and water temps etc. Rockwool seemed to tick the boxes and my first grows impressed me. Was getting as good a yield as my friends in hydro and 2 years experience.

Im probably going to try to perfect rockwool yknow. This was my first go doing this method - a lot of variables changed.

Most people have issues with other mediums and don't give up after one go, so im gonna give it a fair chance!
 

JDMase

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Timer on a water butt. I had been thinking about this myself for my strawberrys outside. I'm sure there must be something available.
Would of thought power supply would be needed though, can you imagine if the timer ran on a battery and it went dead and didn't shut off the water supply!
I found something a while back that would work, if I find it I'll post it here and tag you.
 

JDMase

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Dutch leach tray update


Damn im sweating. Me and my gf just put them in on the black dog and grapefruit.

They don't fit!

So the trays are 1 metre long, my tent is 1 metre wide. With the elbows on the side for drainage? No chance.

Im going to have to buy a slightly larger tent. Ive managed to fit them in slightly diagonally but I can't use the drainage holes so im gonna buy a hand suction pump so drain them. Next best thing.

The shopping list is constantly growing, and funds arent. Seems like a bottomless pit of money right now. The gift that keeps not giving haha.

On the positive I'll now be able to flood the 1 metre rockwool completely - remove salt build ups and better irrigate them. That's a plus.

Anyone got any deals on 1.1metre+ tents?
 
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