Universal Basic Income; 'bout time or batshit crazy?

[SneekyNinja]

Junkies, those who choose drugs over food and shelter.

The Meth and Opiate epidemic is only getting worse, I understand you wouldn't ask who is doing it so I will offer that up, from the pharmaceutical companies wanting to make money regardless of the consumers health and wellbeing.

Seriously, you should be taking notes here. This will be on your final, you don't want to fail, again.

There's empirical evidence from the same program in Canada I mentioned earlier that if you house homeless people with no preconditions related to addiction that the recovery rate is much higher and relapse is much lower.

It's easier to treat people when you know where to reach them.

 

[Enigma]

I don't know about rehabilitation for serious drug use, all I know is I don't want junkies near me. They lie, steal and cheat for a fix. If someone else can tolerate them (they aren't my kids) then I'll support them in an effort to better their lives.

However, I do know one person that has come back from a serious addiction and I absolutely love her personality. I'd hate to see her all fucked up on dope.

 

[esh dov ets]

Now moving on and treating disability separately (as they unquestionably need whatever they need), would you agree UBI could wholly replace welfare in the sense of food stamps, unemployment, etc?

no. i disagree that it should overtake existing forms of assistance. that was basically my thesis. read what i wrote i answered that.

 

[Enigma]

no. i disagree that it should overtake existing forms of assistance. that was basically my thesis. read what i wrote i answered that.

What you proposed is a hypothesis not a thesis.

Hah!

 

[esh dov ets]

Junkies, those who choose drugs over food and shelter.

The Meth and Opiate epidemic is only getting worse, I understand you wouldn't ask who is doing it so I will offer that up, from the pharmaceutical companies wanting to make money regardless of the consumers health and wellbeing.

Seriously, you should be taking notes here. This will be on your final, you don't want to fail, again.

you see a homeless person and you make assumptions ,blame them , then blame the pharmaceutical companies.
keep thinking, your wheels are almost turning.

 

[Enigma]

you see a homeless person and you make assumptions ,blame them , then blame the pharmaceutical companies.
keep thinking, your wheels are almost turning.

Do you even know what track marks look like?

I've seen some nasty fukers in my lifetime.

When you have people smoking METH next to a school bustop I can only hope you'll think about that. Doubtful, yet hopeful.

You have made me laugh enough tonight.

 

[esh dov ets]

Do you even know what track marks look like?

I've seen some nasty fukers in my lifetime.

When you have people smoking METH next to a school bustop I can only hope you'll think about that. Doubtful, yet hopeful.

You have made me laugh enough tonight.

maybe 30% of homeless people are addicts. people become homeless and then take up drugs , more than the other way around
http://anawimcc.org/myths-and-facts-about-homelessness/

 

[esh dov ets]

Do you even know what track marks look like?

I've seen some nasty fukers in my lifetime.

When you have people smoking METH next to a school bustop I can only hope you'll think about that. Doubtful, yet hopeful.

You have made me laugh enough tonight.

I don't know about rehabilitation for serious drug use, all I know is I don't want junkies near me. They lie, steal and cheat for a fix. If someone else can tolerate them (they aren't my kids) then I'll support them in an effort to better their lives.

However, I do know one person that has come back from a serious addiction and I absolutely love her personality. I'd hate to see her all fucked up on dope.

 

[Enigma]

maybe 30% of homeless people are addicts. people become homeless and then take up drugs , more than the other way around
http://anawimcc.org/myths-and-facts-about-homelessness/

You don't know anything FIRST HAND.

Travel a bit more, go OUTSIDE, walk around, meet real homeless people (like I do) and try to help them.

You'll fucking find out fast, don't carry money with you.. you don't seem to be aware enough to take that risk.

 

[esh dov ets]

 

[Enigma]

Memes?

Nothing left to say, I understand.

You came I'll equipped for a battle of the wits.

 

[esh dov ets]

Memes?

Nothing left to say, I understand.

You came I'll equipped for a battle of the wits.

You don't know anything FIRST HAND.

Travel a bit more, go OUTSIDE, walk around, meet real homeless people (like I do) and try to help them.

You'll fucking find out fast, don't carry money with you.. you don't seem to be aware enough to take that risk.

every thing you just said is absolutely false

 

[Enigma]

You are nothing more than a trolling ignorant racial bigot, a simple observation.

Iggy.

 

[esh dov ets]

You are nothing more than a trolling ignorant racial bigot, a simple observation.

 

[esh dov ets]

the bread is a comment on the plain dullness of you, not your race.

 

[esh dov ets]

Enigma, i'm sure we would agree on something. Monsanto already.. you seem like a grower. sorry you are getting frustrated with politics or whatever. peace

 

[StonerCol]

Stop looking for hand outs and only hand outs. damn shame

All these very wealthy people who get tax breaks are infact getting handouts. But worse than that, they are not paying their taxes which takes money away from the poor. Handouts seem to be for the rich, not the poor who actually need the money.

 

[Enigma]

All these very wealthy people who get tax breaks are infact getting handouts. But worse than that, they are not paying their taxes which takes money away from the poor.

Walmart gets more financial aid than everyone on food stamps combined.

What fucking planet do I live on?!

 

[StonerCol]

Why do you feel a person NEEDS to work?

Perhaps @londonfog believes in the slogan "Arbeit macht frei". We all know where that slogan was used......

 

[StonerCol]

just think, you could flip burgers for a hobby instead of as a soul-draining job.

Or use a UBI to start a business. That's partially what the rich are afraid of. They don't want the "lower" classes to improve their lot and become financially independent because it takes the power away from the rich. Money is power and the rich guard both with their lives.