Why do some have problems with people of different color

[Olive Drab Green]

In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. From WIKIPEDIA.

You need Wikipedia to tell you what cognitive dissonance is?

 

[Olive Drab Green]

I know I know, you have dibs on the kids.


So, are you saying that a black person is incapable of being a racist, and that you would force a black man to use his body and his property to serve a white man against his will?

A black man shouldn't be racist, either, but with all the white men trying to starve him to death, jail him, or lynch him, I can see why he might be skeptical of people of lighter ethnicity.

 

[Rob Roy]

When did I say that? I didn't say I'd shoot someone for not doing something, but if you see color as a factor in a decision, you're doing it wrong. You're outdated and need to get with the times, or you need to die off.

I see you trying to claim that some people have a right to force another person to associate with and serve others even if that person prefers not to.

I see you imagining that a group of people can somehow have rights which no individual within that group possesses. I see you trying to bolster your weak arguments by falsely asserting I'm a racist. I see you picking your nose in your stained gym shorts at your computer in your mothers basement, but I digress.


1) Is there any means by which any number of individuals can delegate to someone else the moral right to do something which none of the individuals have the moral right to do themselves?

 

[Rob Roy]

You need Wikipedia to tell you what cognitive dissonance is?

No, I see it here on a frequent basis. How you doing on answering my questions ?

 

[Olive Drab Green]

No, I see it here on a frequent basis. How you doing on answering my questions ?

How are you doing on my answers?

I see you trying to claim that some people have a right to force another person to associate with and serve others even if that person prefers not to.

I see you imagining that a group of people can somehow have rights which no individual within that group possesses. I see you trying to bolster your weak arguments by falsely asserting I'm a racist. I see you picking your nose in your stained gym shorts at your computer in your mothers basement, but I digress.


1) Is there any means by which any number of individuals can delegate to someone else the moral right to do something which none of the individuals have the moral right to do themselves?

When you own a business, that business is open to the public and subject to public law, if you want revenue, which is a public institution. Therefore, you are subject to the public in its entirety, or you are subject to penalty under the law.

 

[Rob Roy]

A black man shouldn't be racist, either, but with all the white men trying to starve him to death, jail him, or lynch him, I can see why he might be skeptical of people of lighter ethnicity.

So how does it help that black man by taking away his right to self determine the use of his own body and his own property ?

Do you know how to run his life better than him?

 

[Olive Drab Green]

So how does it help that black man by taking away his right to self determine the use of his own body and his own property ?

Do you know how to run his life better than him?

I don't take away his right to do what he wishes with his property, but if his property is a business which deals with the public, I expect him, as well, to follow public mandate, which isn't about oppression, but the opposite. It's about equal opportunity under the law.

 

[Rob Roy]

How are you doing on my answers?


When you own a business, that business is open to the public and subject to public law, if you want revenue, which is a public institution. Therefore, you are subject to the public in its entirety, or you are subject to penalty under the law.

I see your circular argument and reject it as sychophantic it defaults to the idea that government can have rights which no individual person possesses.


Here's another question for you. I anticipate your on point and concise response.


2) Do those who wield political power (presidents, legislators, etc.) have the moral right to do things which other people do not have the moral right to do? If so, from whom and how did they acquire such a right?



Also, a couple of posts bag I did a variation of the "you live in your mothers basement thing", it was kind of funny. I would have appreciated some acknowledgment.

 

[Rob Roy]

I don't take away his right to do what he wishes with his property, but if his property is a business which deals with the public, I expect him, as well, to follow public mandate, which isn't about oppression, but the opposite. It's about equal opportunity under the law.

No. it is about decreasing an individuals control over his own body and what is ostensibly his own property.

It's good you dislike racists. Your dislike doesn't provide you with any right to force a racist to associate with you or to use his own property to serve anyone though. Two separate issues.


Here are two questions you have run from so far...


1) Is there any means by which any number of individuals can delegate to someone else the moral right to do something which none of the individuals have the moral right to do themselves?

2) Do those who wield political power (presidents, legislators, etc.) have the moral right to do things which other people do not have the moral right to do? If so, from whom and how did they acquire such a right?

 

[Olive Drab Green]

No. it is about decreasing an individuals control over his own body and what is ostensibly his own property.

It's good you dislike racists. Your dislike doesn't provide you with any right to force a racist to associate with you or to use his own property to serve anyone though. Two separate issues.


Here are two questions you have run from so far...


1) Is there any means by which any number of individuals can delegate to someone else the moral right to do something which none of the individuals have the moral right to do themselves?

2) Do those who wield political power (presidents, legislators, etc.) have the moral right to do things which other people do not have the moral right to do? If so, from whom and how did they acquire such a right?

If you have the right to act in a discriminating way against black people by refusing them service in a public setting, why do I not have the right to discriminate against you and beat the piss out of you for it? Same thing essentially, right? Since you're acting against another person in display of your own autonomy, I should be able to do the same thing.

 

[Rob Roy]

I don't take away his right to do what he wishes with his property, but if his property is a business which deals with the public, I expect him, as well, to follow public mandate, which isn't about oppression, but the opposite. It's about equal opportunity under the law.

Your response contradicts itself. Would you mind holding one position at a time rather than two opposing points of view at once, please?

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Your response contradicts itself. Would you mind holding one position at a time rather than two opposing points of view at once, please?

I'm not, I'm asking from your perspective. I know you're not familiar with the concept, so you're forgiven. Nice deflection.

 

[Rob Roy]

If you have the right to act in a discriminating way against black people by refusing them service in a public setting, why do I not have the right to discriminate against you and beat the piss out of you for it? Same thing essentially, right? Since you're acting against another person in display of your own autonomy, I should be able to do the same thing.

No, it isn't the same thing. First you are incapable of beating the shit out of me, little feller, and if you do come out of your mothers basement, please change those crusty gym shorts.


Now I will address your ridiculous and basement boy faux testosterone laden post.

If a person is self determining their own body or their own property, they are exercising a right. They are not abridging your right to do what you wish to do with your own body or your own property.

If you are "beating the shit out of somebody" because they aren't acquiescing to your unwanted advances on THEIR property, you are behaving like a thug and a rapist.


Btw- I notice that in your haste to flex your internet muscles, you have failed to address my questions.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

No, it isn't the same thing. First you are incapable of beating the shit out of me, little feller, and if you do come out of your mothers basement, please change those crusty gym shorts.


Now I will address your ridiculous and basement boy faux testosterone laden post.

If a person is self determining their own body or their own property, they are exercising a right. They are not abridging your right to do what you wish you to with your own body or your own property.

If you are "beating the shit out of somebody" because they aren't acquiescing to your unwanted advances on THEIR property, you are behaving like a thug and a rapist.


Btw- I notice that in your haste to flex your internet muscles, you have failed to address my questions.

Firstly, I promise you, I could whoop your old ass any day of the week, and secondly, when your refusal of service starves people to death, yes, it's the same thing as me beating you to death.

 

[Rob Roy]

I'm not, I'm asking from your perspective. I know you're not familiar with the concept, so you're forgiven. Nice deflection.

From my perspective, I, nor anybody else has any right to force a person to associate with me or to use their property in ways that I and not they, determine.


I am disappointed that you would force a black man to serve a white man against his will. Sounds pretty slavish.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

From my perspective, I, nor anybody else has any right to force a person to associate with me or to use their property in ways that I and not they, determine.


I am disappointed that you would force a black man to serve a white man against his will. Sounds pretty slavish.

Your words, not mine. Paid business i in public domain isn't slavery.

 

[Rob Roy]

Firstly, I promise you, I could whoop your old ass any day of the week, and secondly, when your refusal of service starves people to death, yes, it's the same thing as me beating you to death.

Except I never said I would refuse a person service based on their race.

But you would force a black man to serve a white man, against his will. I wouldn't.

 

[Justin-case]

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Except I never said I would refuse a person service based on their race.

But you would force a black man to serve a white man, against his will. I wouldn't.

Tough guys don't abuse children, get help chester.

 

[londonfog]

Did you grant somebody else control over your business property or did somebody take it under threat of offensive force if you didn't comply with their wishes?

Well when I'm not around I do hand the properties over to my manager. She has been with me since day one. She does not threaten me at all. I let her control it with my blessings. I think my family is going to go on vacation in July, if everything goes to plan. She will again have control over my property.
Please remember if you open a business that is open to the public you will serve everyone.
If you don't want to serve everyone, then open your business as a private club and charge a membership fee and be as racist as you so desire.

 

[Rob Roy]

Tough guys don't abuse children, get help chester.