killa4lyfe
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def looking good but wait couple weeks and they are going too look better
Hows my buds looking?
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mr sunshine
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More efficient? yes. Can outgrow a 1000 watt? Fuck no.
chemphlegm
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yep I shared an efficiency fact, but we all know word definitions are troublesome for some posters here lol
ipeeinpools
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MAYBE, just MAYBE if he was growing in a scrog but it doesn't appear that way. my MJ101 was paying 3K a month in rent for a house to grow in for a year...hitting learning curves hurt badly lol
chemphlegm
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so everyone is clear...YOU believe that a 600 watt hid is MORE EFFICIENT than a 1000 watt hid, and this efficiency will depend upon how a plant is trained while under it?
ipeeinpools
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Nope, that is not what i believe. Not sure how you got there. English is hard for some people.
chemphlegm
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this implies you believe a 1000 watt hid is more efficient than a 600 watt hid no?
ipeeinpools
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In the production of bud during the flowering stage using HPS, yes. I would also say that there are situations where it would be vise versa based on the growing environment. But to simply generalize HID's as one and compare wattage efficiency, well that's just plain silly.
chemphlegm
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one look at the area coverage of each is very telling, like add several up and look to see the coverage, return, cost, etc.
1k bulbs penetrate deeper for sure, they also produce much more heat that needs controlling which will lessen their efficiency to begin with?
btw, I didnt make this shit up, its in every grow book I've read to date. I wont attempt to convince you by posting excerpts from them all but google the coverage you'll see. I use both in my flower room- 600/1000 mh/hps for the win. I stepped up from 400 to 600 to 1000 and if done over would skip the 1k lights and add near twice the coverage with multiple 600
ipeeinpools
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Don't get me wrong, I understand what each one puts off...I just think you have to sometimes be smarter than what you read sometimes. There are efficient ways to combat the extra heat and where to dump that heat....and ways to utilize the light penetration to get the most out of that extra umph. I'm running a 315w CMH in between my 1000w's and I would dare to say that if I switched to all CMH, they would be more efficient.
chemphlegm
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but combating the inefficiencies of the 1k light does nothing to add to its efficiency. The 1k light remains the less efficient grow light compared to a 600 watt, regardless of what I read. I live it for real right here daily. I'd take two 600's over a 1k any day, grow more for less money in the end. been there done it.
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ipeeinpools
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Depends how and how cheaply you can combat those inefficiencies. If I replaced my two 1000W's with three 600Ws, nothing in my setup would change. I would still need an AC, and I would still need to run the same fans.
chemphlegm
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except with 3 600 watt lights you could potentially enlarge your grow space and still have full coverage?
my room costs more to cool and dehumidify with my 4 1k's than it does with my 6 600 watters and I get more sf coverage with the 6 lights for near the same hid draw. yes the air still runs but at the end of the month the proof is there year round. I have a seperate meter on my grow rooms so its easy for me to discern these changes.
my room costs more to cool and dehumidify with my 4 1k's than it does with my 6 600 watters and I get more sf coverage with the 6 lights for near the same hid draw. yes the air still runs but at the end of the month the proof is there year round. I have a seperate meter on my grow rooms so its easy for me to discern these changes.
ipeeinpools
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Yes the 3 600's will give a better spread, tis why I've got a 315 CMH between my 1000's, helps me maximize that coverage on a 5'x10' screen. The run im currently in the middle of will be my proof in the pudding, seeing as there is not much info that i've found on the hortilux super HPS being run on the proper ballast. My next house will have a meter on my grow room, separate from the rest of the house. Very jealous lol
chemphlegm
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that meter costs a monthly fee by itself, and the kw are more expensive wtf!!! pizzed me off..
I just installed a whole estate auto gen and was tricky to tie both into it. in order to combine the two meters DTE said they needed to get on the other side of my meter...aint gonna happen. and they aint stupid either. so I kept them separate for the pseudo privacy on that account.
I just installed a whole estate auto gen and was tricky to tie both into it. in order to combine the two meters DTE said they needed to get on the other side of my meter...aint gonna happen. and they aint stupid either. so I kept them separate for the pseudo privacy on that account.
ipeeinpools
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Yea that'd piss me off too, wonder why its more expensive on that one...yea next house will be in a new state so i'll have to figure out how to keep it pseudoly private lol
chemphlegm
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i got myself surrounded by 100 foot pines carded legal to the T discreet no visitors, smells, noise, lights....yet still paranoid now more than before cards
ipeeinpools
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Ha! You should see me whenever i have to make oil...I envy your 100' pines, those would help my paranoia lol. also sorry spud for hijacking your thread lol
ThatSpudGuy
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Day 39 of flower
ipeeinpools
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Lookin good man, lotta trich production, and god damn i love when they pray
