Im lost on your comment. if you're talking about the old pic i posted i dont have them set up that way anymore. now i do top feed drip and use a flood tray to catch the water and drain it back in the res
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im4satori
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i dont know if this helps answer your question but
typically,
the smaller the root area/medium the more frequently youll need to water
the larger the root area/medium the less frequently youll need to water
im personally not a fan of grow rock because they hold very little moisture and if the pump fails you lose your crops
but that was partly cuz i needed to leave my plants un attended for several days at a time
when i grew hydro i chose to grow in rockwool because it held some moisture
if i grew my plants in a 6" block i would need to water less frequent
if i grew in a 4" block water more frequent
but either way my yield was the same
typically,
the smaller the root area/medium the more frequently youll need to water
the larger the root area/medium the less frequently youll need to water
im personally not a fan of grow rock because they hold very little moisture and if the pump fails you lose your crops
but that was partly cuz i needed to leave my plants un attended for several days at a time
when i grew hydro i chose to grow in rockwool because it held some moisture
if i grew my plants in a 6" block i would need to water less frequent
if i grew in a 4" block water more frequent
but either way my yield was the same
yeah i get what youre saying, i guess what im asking is given that i use hydroton doing continuous top feed drip and im trying to fill 2.25 sq ft of canopy per plant.... will there be a difference in bud size/yield if i use a 7in pot for the whole cycle compared to the 9in pot? obv granted theyre both vegged/flipped at the same size
im4satori
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with the hydroton i just feed nonstop when the lights are on and im there every day and im not worried about a failing pump im home everyday and will know somethings wrong when i dont hear the splashing lol but okay i get what youre saying so youre basically saying you can have a smaller container/pot, you just need to water more often to make up for it and the yield will ultimately end up the same.
yes sir
im4satori
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when i first started many moons ago
i grew in ebb n flow rocks
switched to top drip rock
didn't like the top feed in rocks.. the roots always grew un evenly the moisture didn't soak the entire area evenly
so i switched to rockwool, i grew it for years but its a pain to discretely dispose of the cost adds up
i grew in ebb n flow rocks
switched to top drip rock
didn't like the top feed in rocks.. the roots always grew un evenly the moisture didn't soak the entire area evenly
so i switched to rockwool, i grew it for years but its a pain to discretely dispose of the cost adds up
Carolina Dream'n
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Incorrect. EC is universal. Ppm is a derivative of EC with two different scales, 500 and 700, which is why when someone says ppm they need to include which scale they measured with.
1.0 EC on the 500 scale is 500ppm.
1.0 EC on the 700 scale is 700ppm.
Monster plant to me is like a outdoor beast.i use the r/o version and my tap is so low it doest measure on my ppm pen.... im going to start trying to use their foliar supplement instead of using calmag. but some people are most certainly using 6" rockwool and growing big plants, you ever heard of the jungle boyz? theyre known for being one the best growers in the country and they using a 6" cube from start to finish.
i just started using floraflex dripper caps, theyre made to fit rockwool cubes but their 6" model fits the 7" square pots perfect and their 8" fits the 9" pot perfect. i have 2 tubes to each cap looks like the pic i posted they create a pretty even watering... i started doing continuous because i was doing a sog with 5" netcups and i started with 5 15min drips per day then i kept upping it till i realized they loved the continuous drip and now that you tell me the smaller the pot the more they need to be watered it makes sense... but if i can use less medium and get away with using the 7" pot and still get the same yield then it sounds illogical to use the 9" pots
im4satori
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if it was me and I had the space
id get the larger pot if it doesn't disrupt your space
if your trying to use the smaller pots to fit an existing space so be it yes itll be no problem
a larger pot gives you a wider area.. plants will grow wider when the root zone can extend in width
if you want you could use a wider pot and not fill it to the top
the extra width also provide more stability at the base to keep the plant from tipping over
a small pot with rocks holds very little weight compared to the top of the plant
if you where growing SOG id say use the smaller pots but your also talking about growing bigger plants and experimenting on what works for you.
a slightly larger pot might provide more options down the road
in my opinion and in my experience the way I would set up your space would be
5 plants under a 3x3 area with a 600 watts light in an 8" pot with 2 weeks veg time
(10 plants total)
its a happy medium between SOG (to many clones) and scrog( to much training)
if your plants are tall top them 1x and veg an extra week
if there short just let them be
with an 8" pot they wont be tipping over on you and possibly require no netting no staking and no training
id get the larger pot if it doesn't disrupt your space
if your trying to use the smaller pots to fit an existing space so be it yes itll be no problem
a larger pot gives you a wider area.. plants will grow wider when the root zone can extend in width
if you want you could use a wider pot and not fill it to the top
the extra width also provide more stability at the base to keep the plant from tipping over
a small pot with rocks holds very little weight compared to the top of the plant
if you where growing SOG id say use the smaller pots but your also talking about growing bigger plants and experimenting on what works for you.
a slightly larger pot might provide more options down the road
in my opinion and in my experience the way I would set up your space would be
5 plants under a 3x3 area with a 600 watts light in an 8" pot with 2 weeks veg time
(10 plants total)
its a happy medium between SOG (to many clones) and scrog( to much training)
if your plants are tall top them 1x and veg an extra week
if there short just let them be
with an 8" pot they wont be tipping over on you and possibly require no netting no staking and no training
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im4satori
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I was thinking something more like this
http://www.altgarden.com/hydroponic-gardening-26/hydroponic-irrigation/drip-accessories/waterfarm-plumbing-kit.html
which im betting you could easily make
even if it was square and made from cpvc with tiny holes drilled in it
but I cant really say for sure, ive never actually done this
http://www.altgarden.com/hydroponic-gardening-26/hydroponic-irrigation/drip-accessories/waterfarm-plumbing-kit.html
which im betting you could easily make
even if it was square and made from cpvc with tiny holes drilled in it
but I cant really say for sure, ive never actually done this
im4satori
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just an option, thinking out loud
get the smallest pvc fittings the sell that has all the parts and pieces
build it into a square that fits inside the pot and just let it lay on top of the rocks
and get a hose barb fitting that's threaded on one side (to connect the pvc)and hose barb on the other (likely brass) that fits the feed tubeing
drill small holes in the pvc
youll need to play around with the hole size and how many holes compared to your pump size and how many plants to get proper pressure
get the smallest pvc fittings the sell that has all the parts and pieces
build it into a square that fits inside the pot and just let it lay on top of the rocks
and get a hose barb fitting that's threaded on one side (to connect the pvc)and hose barb on the other (likely brass) that fits the feed tubeing
drill small holes in the pvc
youll need to play around with the hole size and how many holes compared to your pump size and how many plants to get proper pressure
im4satori
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personally
I would buy the cheap lowes 1/3 hp pump for $80, get one with no float switch
I like them because they last a long time and theyre easy/quick to get in the case of a pump failure
yes theyre over sized and noisie but I don't care
then when it kicks on the pressure is high and comes out of the pvc likes its a fucking areo cloner lol
I wonder if you could even install the plastic mist heads they use in the EZcloner machines and fit them into the pvc
I know the plastic tips are threaded screw into a specific hole size
I would buy the cheap lowes 1/3 hp pump for $80, get one with no float switch
I like them because they last a long time and theyre easy/quick to get in the case of a pump failure
yes theyre over sized and noisie but I don't care
then when it kicks on the pressure is high and comes out of the pvc likes its a fucking areo cloner lol
I wonder if you could even install the plastic mist heads they use in the EZcloner machines and fit them into the pvc
I know the plastic tips are threaded screw into a specific hole size
im4satori
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http://www.altgarden.com/hydroponic-gardening-26/hydroponic-irrigation/spray-heads/ez-clone-replacement-spray-head.html
screw these into the pvc facing down
again these are just ideas, ive never done it
who knows it might make a fucking mess and spray everywhere lol
screw these into the pvc facing down
again these are just ideas, ive never done it
who knows it might make a fucking mess and spray everywhere lol
the flora flex things are 4 or 5 bucks each and i already have made home made top feed drippers, i like the flora flex the best i have the irrigation itsself down and the problem is i legally cant have that many
im4satori
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actually I have to correct myself
I was thinking of a 4x4 area with 9 plants
my mistake
for a 3x3 area you could do 4 or maybe 5 with a short smack in the middle and veg for 2 weeks (maybe 3)
I went back and edited the previous post to reflect the correct numbers