Dabbinblunted
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I was told it's organic just want to make sure lol..
Is VERDE all organic??
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Rasta Roy
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If it's in a bottle it's not true organics. You want compost, composted manures, boxed or bagged dry organic amendments that you mix into your soil.
Anything in a bottle is going to have a preservative, or whatever essential organic component it has that they are claiming makes their product great...is going to be heavily watered down, and not in it's true beneficial form.
If you want go the bottle route you should stick with synthetics, they will treat you better.
Building your own organic soil is cheaper, and in most people's opinion on this forum...makes a better end product.
This recipe will take you from start to finish, no need to cook, plant your clones or mature seedlings right into it.
15% peat moss, pine bark, or coco coir
35% aeration (I prefer Perlite or rice hulls but course Sand, and pumice are other options
50% composted organic matter (this could be compost, composted cow or horse manure, worm castings, leaf mold). I prefer a combination of as many different kinds of compost I can but whatever is available to you and the best quality is what you should lean on.
Neem Seed Meal or Neem Cake 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Crab shell meal or shrimp shell meal 1/2 cup per cubic foot
1/2 cup of Fish Bone Meal
Gypsum 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Langbeinite 1/4 cup per cubic foot
Kelp meal 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Alfalfa meal 1/4 cup per cubic foot
Oyster shell flour 1/4 cup per cubic foot
Anything in a bottle is going to have a preservative, or whatever essential organic component it has that they are claiming makes their product great...is going to be heavily watered down, and not in it's true beneficial form.
If you want go the bottle route you should stick with synthetics, they will treat you better.
Building your own organic soil is cheaper, and in most people's opinion on this forum...makes a better end product.
This recipe will take you from start to finish, no need to cook, plant your clones or mature seedlings right into it.
15% peat moss, pine bark, or coco coir
35% aeration (I prefer Perlite or rice hulls but course Sand, and pumice are other options
50% composted organic matter (this could be compost, composted cow or horse manure, worm castings, leaf mold). I prefer a combination of as many different kinds of compost I can but whatever is available to you and the best quality is what you should lean on.
Neem Seed Meal or Neem Cake 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Crab shell meal or shrimp shell meal 1/2 cup per cubic foot
1/2 cup of Fish Bone Meal
Gypsum 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Langbeinite 1/4 cup per cubic foot
Kelp meal 1/2 cup per cubic foot
Alfalfa meal 1/4 cup per cubic foot
Oyster shell flour 1/4 cup per cubic foot
Thai_Lights
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Rasta would you yield the same in your organic mix compared to if you used synthetics?
Rasta Roy
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I grew with synthetic nutrients for longer than I've been growing organic. If that tells you anything, lol. Your yield has little to do with what nutrients or fertilizers you are using, and everything to do with your room environment and lights.
I can yield the same with a two part synthetic nute as I could with my soil mix, maybe even a few extra grams a light...but I would be spending 200x more cash on nutrients, and spending an extra few hours a day in maintenance (I would be growing hydro, not in soil). The smoke quality would not be as great, though you'd have to be a real hardcore stoner or have my organic stuff next to it to know that (it would still be good weed). I would be using I don't even know how much more water...but it would be a lot more. That water would be used inefficiently, and it and the synthetic nutes in it would end up joining the local water table and contributing to a loss in local water quality.
There is more to growing organic than the yield, and that's not why I switched is what I'm saying. If you want to up your yield, spend the money on a proper A/C for when your room is hot, a proper heater to keep your floor warm when its cold. And co2. And 1000watt hid lights.
DonTesla
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Dabbinblunted
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Fuck it