What do YOU consider to be day 1 of flower?

[Xcoregamerskillz]

I count from the flip. And (try) to run them till they're done. I've heard it's a good idea to start changing the nutes from nitrogen heavy to a more phosphorous and potassium heavy mix.

That's not to say- go nuts with it. Just start changing the feeds gradually a week or two before changing light cycles. Like uh... drop 15% off the Nitrogen to begin with. And add that between the others kind of thing.

I'm using NTFG so it's not quite that simple, plus I'm a noob, so I'm sticking with their chart.

 

[OldMedUser]

I think I'll start the early flower feeding schedule for my plant tonight then. I had heard feed veg until after the stretch was over, but maybe not?

I don't understand why some guys do that. I try to add Bloom and a half dose of Big Bud, 0-17-34, to the last feeding they get a few days to a week before the flip. They have a full dose of the other nutes too and they'll need it. During the stretch your plants eat up to 4x as much then it drops off drastically once stretch is over. I measured daily my ppms in a few DWC grows and I could tell when the end of stretch was near and then I'd do a nute change to a lower level of all flowering nutes not using the Grow at all. I apply the same logic to plants I grow in pots.

 

[Nugachino]

Sorry. I'm not savvy on bottled stuff. I grow with organic soil. And feed with worm bin runoff.

The only time my plants get anything from a packet. Is when they're closer to the flip. Then they get some organic brunnings fruiting plant bloom booster.

 

[Xcoregamerskillz]

I don't understand why some guys do that. I try to add Bloom and a half dose of Big Bud, 0-17-34, to the last feeding they get a few days to a week before the flip. They have a full dose of the other nutes too and they'll need it. During the stretch your plants eat up to 4x as much then it drops off drastically once stretch is over. I measured daily my ppms in a few DWC grows and I could tell when the end of stretch was near and then I'd do a nute change to a lower level of all flowering nutes not using the Grow at all. I apply the same logic to plants I grow in pots.

Sounds like solid advice. Nice thing about nectar is that you run the full thing all the time, just changing ratios, so I'm not starving anything.

Sorry. I'm not savvy on bottled stuff. I grow with organic soil. And feed with worm bin runoff.

The only time my plants get anything from a packet. Is when they're closer to the flip. Then they get some organic brunnings fruiting plant bloom booster.

Cool, I was going to do that, but I haven't got the extra time and space for compost and worms and nonsense. NTFG is a great line up though, and made by a pretty environmentally responsible company.

 

[Nugachino]

I use mine for the whole garden. Grows everything from potatoes to sunflowers really well. That. And it reduces the amount of household waste we bin each week.

 

[Xcoregamerskillz]

I use mine for the whole garden. Grows everything from potatoes to sunflowers really well. That. And it reduces the amount of household waste we bin each week.

Definitely hear the benefits. If I didn't rent and didn't work 60 hours a week of be all in on some ROLS

 

[ttystikk]

Day One is the first day after flipping to your flowering schedule.

As folks above have already pointed out, how quickly things progress depends on many factors like light intensity, temperature, strain and nutes.

 

[Colanoscopy]

Day One is the first day after flipping to your flowering schedule.

As folks above have already pointed out, how quickly things progress depends on many factors like light intensity, temperature, strain and nutes.

See ttystikk I thought this myself my first run but I feel my opinion has changed to the showing of Pistils. Last time I flipped there was 4 days total between the 3 plants showing and this showed all the way through flower. Just putting my 2 pence in anyway.

 

[all coco]

Each plant has its own schedule but for the sake of consistency with discussion or data day 1 is the first day after at least 12 hours darkness.

 

[StickyNotes]

Thanks for the input guys! I'm going to track both the flip and when pistils appear. I wasn't asking so I know when I'm done it's so I can be specific when I ask for help here. Also tracking versus what the breeder says to expect.

 

[Nugachino]

The breeders average is under perfect conditions. Usually by a highly skilled grower with all the lights and space they need to obtain that plants maximum yield.

 

[Xcoregamerskillz]

The breeders average is under perfect conditions. Usually by a highly skilled grower with all the lights and space they need to obtain that plants maximum yield.

"Perfect" conditions that don't actually exist. Controlled conditions that are the same across all their grows. There are a lot of skilled growers who argue over the exact "perfect" RH% or canopy temp, and whatever else. The finishing time is an average finish under controlled conditions.

 

[sandhill larry]

I count from the flip. And (try) to run them till they're done. I've heard it's a good idea to start changing the nutes from nitrogen heavy to a more phosphorous and potassium heavy mix.

That's not to say- go nuts with it. Just start changing the feeds gradually a week or two before changing light cycles. Like uh... drop 15% off the Nitrogen to begin with. And add that between the others kind of thing

They still need some Nitrogen in flower. If they start to yellow. They either need more nitrogen. Or they're closing in on the end of flowering cycle. Or even experiencing a nute lockout. Yellowing should start from bottom up. Not the other way round.

Yellowing from top down is either a sign of lockout or needing a feed.

I assume 9 weeks of flower and I break it down into 3 three week periods. Weeks 1-3 I keep using my veg food. Weeks 4-6 I use a 50/50 mix of veg and bloom food. Weeks 7-9 I use bloom food.

 

[Xcoregamerskillz]

While we're on the subject: 8 days in; first pistil sites.

 

[Xcoregamerskillz]

Those basically doubled in size in a day. The inter-nodal spacing is tight, too. I cannot wait to see what she becomes. This has been a long journey, and I straight up abused this plant.

 

[churchhaze]

First day of 12/12 is the first day of flower.

 

[Dr. Who]

Counting your days to know when they finish is pretty well a waste of time as there's a ton of variation in finish times from seeds. That said, I do count but only to track variables in my environment when I make changes and only when I'm running clones that I've grown before so I can see if there were any differences in finish times or expression for known clones/phenos. I count from the day I flip as it's the most consistent starting point across different strains/phenos.

^^^^BINGO THAT^^^^

Count? I don't need no stinking count!

They all go longer then they are stated to anyway! Some go a lot longer. I look at plant - plant tell me when done! I harvest then!

 

[Greenhouse;save]

^^^^BINGO THAT^^^^

Count? I don't need no stinking count!

They all go longer then they are stated to anyway! Some go a lot longer. I look at plant - plant tell me when done! I harvest then!

Absolutely. ....

 

[sandhill larry]

Count? I don't need no stinking count!

 

[Dr. Who]

Counting grams and zips - no problem......

The only counting days I do. Is for how many more till I leave on a trip...