The end of 'Honey Badger'

vostok

Well-Known Member

Up to 20 CIA informants were killed or imprisoned by the Chinese government
between 2010 and 2012, the New York Times reports,
damaging US information-gathering in the country for years.


It is not clear whether the CIA was hacked or whether a mole helped the Chinese
to identify the agents, officials told the paper.

They said one of the informants was shot in the courtyard of a government building as a warning to others.

The CIA did not comment on the report.

Four former CIA officials spoke to the paper, telling it that information from sources deep inside

the Chinese government bureaucracy started to dry up in 2010. Informants began to disappear in early 2011.

The CIA and FBI teamed up to investigate the events in an operation

one source said was codenamed Honey Badger.

The paper said this investigation had centred on one former CIA operative

but there was not enough evidence to arrest him. He now lives in another Asian country.

Obama questioned slow intelligence

Matt Apuzzo, a New York Times journalist who worked on the story, told the BBC:

"One of the really troubling things about this is that we still don't know what happened.

"There's a divide within the American government over whether there was a mole inside the CIA

or whether this was a tradecraft problem, that the CIA agents got sloppy and got discovered,

or whether the Chinese managed to hack communications."

The disappearance of so many spies damaged a network it had taken years to build up,

the paper reports, and hampered operations for years afterwards, even prompting questions

from within the Obama administration as to why intelligence had slowed.

Officials said it was one of the worst security breaches of recent years.

By 2013, the Chinese government seemed to have lost its ability to identify US agents

and the CIA moved back to trying to rebuild its network.

Mr Apuzzo continued: "For many years China and the US have been locked in this spy battle

that's been going on behind the scenes. While doing this story we uncovered that Chinese intelligence have

been able to infiltrate an NSA outpost in Taiwan.

It goes back and forth."

The story was published during a temporary vacuum at the top of

diplomatic relations between the two countries.

The Trump administration has named Terry Branstad, who is the governor of Iowa,

as its ambassador to China but he has not yet moved to Beijing.

Cui Tiankai, China's ambassador to the US, has not commented,

but in a recent press release, he mentioned

"the current positive momentum that the China-US relationship enjoys".

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39989142)
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member

Up to 20 CIA informants were killed or imprisoned by the Chinese government
between 2010 and 2012, the New York Times reports,
damaging US information-gathering in the country for years.


It is not clear whether the CIA was hacked or whether a mole helped the Chinese
to identify the agents, officials told the paper.

They said one of the informants was shot in the courtyard of a government building as a warning to others.

The CIA did not comment on the report.

Four former CIA officials spoke to the paper, telling it that information from sources deep inside

the Chinese government bureaucracy started to dry up in 2010. Informants began to disappear in early 2011.

The CIA and FBI teamed up to investigate the events in an operation

one source said was codenamed Honey Badger.

The paper said this investigation had centred on one former CIA operative

but there was not enough evidence to arrest him. He now lives in another Asian country.

Obama questioned slow intelligence

Matt Apuzzo, a New York Times journalist who worked on the story, told the BBC:

"One of the really troubling things about this is that we still don't know what happened.

"There's a divide within the American government over whether there was a mole inside the CIA

or whether this was a tradecraft problem, that the CIA agents got sloppy and got discovered,

or whether the Chinese managed to hack communications."

The disappearance of so many spies damaged a network it had taken years to build up,

the paper reports, and hampered operations for years afterwards, even prompting questions

from within the Obama administration as to why intelligence had slowed.

Officials said it was one of the worst security breaches of recent years.

By 2013, the Chinese government seemed to have lost its ability to identify US agents

and the CIA moved back to trying to rebuild its network.

Mr Apuzzo continued: "For many years China and the US have been locked in this spy battle

that's been going on behind the scenes. While doing this story we uncovered that Chinese intelligence have

been able to infiltrate an NSA outpost in Taiwan.

It goes back and forth."

The story was published during a temporary vacuum at the top of

diplomatic relations between the two countries.

The Trump administration has named Terry Branstad, who is the governor of Iowa,

as its ambassador to China but he has not yet moved to Beijing.

Cui Tiankai, China's ambassador to the US, has not commented,

but in a recent press release, he mentioned

"the current positive momentum that the China-US relationship enjoys".

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39989142)
The world is at least as dangerous today as it was during the Cold War. Back then, there were basically two sides and everyone knew the limits. Now there are as many sides as there are groups and no one knows what the other might do, or when.

China is a dangerous adversary and a dangerous friend. It's important that our government be firmly in the lead when dealing with them, because corporations only care about profits.
 

vostok

Well-Known Member

I read that and thought with the forthcoming Hollywood writers strike

'Bang goes another good plot..!'

their won't be many good movies out for a while

other than the normal 'marval' crap
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member

I read that and thought with the forthcoming Hollywood writers strike

'Bang goes another good plot..!'

their won't be many good movies out for a while

other than the normal 'marval' crap
Americans don't want to know what their government does anymore. They go to the movies purely for escapism.
 
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