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Token Paraplegic

Token Paraplegic

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well i wish i would have read this before but i did flush and i found an old remedy that's called tobacco juice and its seeming to help
 
FarmingToronto

FarmingToronto

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Heya Token.. Things were looking fantastic up till those odd spots...

To be 100% honest buddy, I'm really stumped on that one.. I can't confirm of deny on what Batman_Skunk here said.. he could very well be correct...I'd check as many boards as you can and search for like "red/brown small dots" or something, infact I had a thread about plant problems bookmarked somewhere.. let me see...

The Complele Guide to Sick Plants- ICMag

Check that thread out man, see if you can find some help within.. I too will do some looking to see if I can't help more :)

Sorry, I didn't have an answer for you man
-Tdot
 
Token Paraplegic

Token Paraplegic

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well i found the tobaccoo juice remedy on another forum and it works great it seems, you take 3 ciggs and soak them in water over night, remove the ciggs, then boil the water. after that you spray the plant once everyday and seems like its not wilting as fast and seems to stop it from wilting.
 
Scranny420

Scranny420

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Oh shit...my plants are starting to show little red/orange spots too...I think I'm going to try that remedy today and I'll keep you posted.

How much water did you use?
 
BatMaN SKuNK

BatMaN SKuNK

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tobacco juice??? i read in a book that i purchased thats more like a grow book that nicotine is toxic to the plant. i would never do that to my plants.
 
Token Paraplegic

Token Paraplegic

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BatMaN SKuNK said:
tobacco juice??? i read in a book that i purchased thats more like a grow book that nicotine is toxic to the plant. i would never do that to my plants.
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my plant is busting ass, my grandmother used it back in the day to keep her plants from getting bugs its an old wives tell i think but its working

THRIPS:

Thrips are really tiny, but can be seen by the naked eye. Some may have wings and some may not. Thrips reproduce rapidly, especially in tight places. That is what makes them hard to get rid of when using pesticides. They suck the sap right out of your plant with there piercing mouths, which makes the leaves look like they turned white. You can tell when you have thrips by taking a look at your leaves, the leaves will look as if there chlorophyll have been ripped right off the plant. Plants that are damaged can’t be healed thus making it harder for the plant to absorb light. SO if left untreated the thrips will kill the plants. Damage also can be seen by the greenish black specks of there poop they leave on leaves. Also the plants will show silver patchs from scar tissue. Depending on the severity at first, thrip damage might look like spider mite damage untill it increases in damage and then thrips case is for sure when you see the greenness replace with big parts of white.


One good way to repel thrips for those growing outside is to use garlic, this is a good way to keep them away before you get them. The color yellow attracts the thrips and should be advised not to have this color around your grow.. If you already have them using neem oil, and or lady bugs can get rid of them. If the infestation is bad then you need to use biological solution like, pyrethrin-like insecticides. Picture 8 shows thrips damage.
Other Products include:
Chemicals
Hot Pepper Wax,Safer Yard & Garden Insecticide (which can be used right to the day of harvest),GNATROL( used in hydro in the water as well as soil),Doc's Neem Pest Soap,Safer Sticky Stakes,TR-11000 Pyrethrum.

SPIDER MITES:

Spider mites are by far the worst pest to have, because they are the hardest to kill and can literally kill any plant. They are by far more active in warmer climates than cold ones, they also suck sup from the leaves leaving tiny white spots on the leaves from where they suck on. The damage they do is just like thrips, but with spider mites they pierce the surface of the leaves and can show tiny holesor white speckling damage, unlike with thirps they eat the surface of the chlorophyll. You can tell when you have infestation of spider mites , because you will have distorted growth, shortened internodes and petioles.
When you have bad infestation you will see webbing with larva in them. You get spider mites from either store bought soil mostly when your soil is not sterilized. Most brands do not state weather or not they are, chances are if you buy cheap soil, you have a less likely chance of the soil being sterile.Also, bringing outdoor plants indoors, or getting plants from someone else who was infected with spidermites.
Spider mites live on the plant itself and are under the leaves most of the time and are usually are so tiny you can’t see them with the naked eye. In order to get rid of spider mites one of the best ways to start to get rid of them is to use NO-Pest strips.NO-Pest strips work well and should always be used with other methods. Neem oil helps get rid of them as well. Also by raising the humidity in your grow room a lot will kill the spider mites off, by them absorbing to much humidity and will burst. You can use soap solution like Safer Insecticidal Soap to get rid of most aphid problems. Use some tobacco juice and chili pepper powder added to this for mites. (see below how to make tabacco juice)
Pyrethrum should only be used in extreme circumstances directly on plants, It starts to breaks down around a week and is easily washed away with clear water or. If your plants are in flowering and you have spider mites, using safer chemicals is your best bet. The tobacco and pepper soap solution works well and should be used daily, spraying on the underside and top leaves and later the whole plant. Since spider mites are very residual to common products, you have to find or try any number of ones untill you get rid of them. make absolutly sure you retreat as stated, other wise you will get resistant spidermites and then you have a bigger battle on your hands.Also do not allow pets that go outside alot to be around indoor plants,mites have been known to be carried in from pets to plants. PLEASE NOTE, below are ways to get rid of spider mites, but no 2 mite infestations are identical, you almost always have to use different products to get rid of them, also make a habit to check for at least a whole month after thinking you got rid of them, that way your chances of the spider mites that became resistant breeding and then having a bigger problem. Make sure you spray your plant down very good and enough and on time.
Here are some more products that may help get rid of spider mites:

Chemicals
Hot Pepper Wax,Safer Yard & Garden Insecticide (which can be used right to the day of harvest),GNATROL( used in hydro in the water as well as soil),Doc's Neem Pest Soap,Safer Sticky Stakes,TR-11000 Pyrethrum. Anything that says dicofol on the back. ( should be used in vegging or early flowering)

Tabacco Juice recipe

Take 3 strong ciggeretes soak them over night in water
Boil it for 2 to 3 miniutes, let it cool off and spray the plants 3 to 4 times a week. You can add safer soap if you like to the mixture.
(make absolutly sure you use gloves/face protection while handling and spraying)
Neem oil works very well too!!
 
BatMaN SKuNK

BatMaN SKuNK

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I understand that you read it somewhere online, but keep it mind, that just because it's on the internet being posted somewhere doesnt mean it's necessarily a good idea. the forums can be helpfull if the advice you're given is good advice, but deadly if the advice you're given is dead ass wrong. i still would never put the harmfull chemicals that are in cigarettes anywhere near my plants. those red spots look like spidermite damage, u really should get some neem. as far as sexing them goes. it's way too early to tell.
 
Mattplusness

Mattplusness

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What would inspire you do think that is a good ideal? I mean really, what in a cigarette is good for a plant? I mean there is probably over 2,000 chemicals in them, why not just use real nutrients that are proven to work and chemicals a plant actually needs?
 
Token Paraplegic

Token Paraplegic

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Mattplusness said:
What would inspire you do think that is a good ideal? I mean really, what in a cigarette is good for a plant? I mean there is probably over 2,000 chemicals in them, why not just use real nutrients that are proven to work and chemicals a plant actually needs?
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umm doesnt look like it hurt it so ummmmm blow me? I think weve figured that ciggs have chemicals thanks for the news flash asshole!

BatMaN SKuNK said:
no problem, im really jus tryin 2 help. i had a bug problem and i freaked out. my local hydro shop sells neem, its called einstein oil. a lil bottle costs around $20 but it goes a long way.
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will do man thanks
 
Scranny420

Scranny420

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I think the boiling process may affect this concoction in such a way that it doesn't harm the plant, as anecdotal evidence suggests.
 
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