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Mr.Head

Mr.Head

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I still think Frank Mir is the best UFC Heavyweight of all time maybe 1-2 more wins and Stipe takes that title.

Franks achievements at heavyweight outshine Stipe IMO.

Heavyweight knockouts aren't "that" impressive because dudes weigh 245, it's the opposite of Demetrious Johnson, when he scores a knockout it's impressive because he weighs 3grams.

That said Stipe is the man, seems like a great dude and appears to be clean.

A win over Junior doens't impress me much at all. The guys been nothing since Usada came in, his head and frame have completely changed shapes. He's a shell of his former self. He can't compete without it. He's another Johnie Hendricks. Junior got his title shot off a decision win over Ben Rothwell...
 
Mr.Head

Mr.Head

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KryptoBud said:


Best heavyweight ever on the left, the man that'll replace him on the right.
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Is that Fedor? If so HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHGAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA are you serious? Cause if so HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

That's borderline retarded. The guy will get starched by any heavyweight top ten. and don't give me this past his prime shit because the same guys he was beating way back when are stilling winning today against people he lost to.

Fuck Fedor. He's a product of the Yakuza marketing. How many fights were thrown by his opponents? How many fights with opponents that had no place to be in the ring with someone "So great"?

The great dont' take fights vs. hung man choi GTFOH.

Fedor is a fucking joke. If you seriously think he's the greatest ever you can't know shit about Combat sports or take into account any of his opponents after 2005.

when Fedor got starched by virtually everyone in Strikeforce he was in his prime. 33 years old.

Fedor being the greatest ever is like a meme. It's a joke. It's something for people to say to seem like they know combat sports. If you honest to goodness can prove why Fedor is the greatest please do so. Because Frank mir would smash the living fuck outta Fedor.

Fedor is the most protected fighter of all time. He was a trained fighter fighting amateurs in Pride. Many were paid to take dives, it's a documented fact. And we're supposed to hold those wins up? the pre 2005 wins were his best wins.
 
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KryptoBud

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Mir 18-11
brandon vera loss
josh barnett loss
dc loss
shane carwin loss
ian freeman (WHO) loss
mario cruz (who) loss
brock lesnar loss should've lost twice the ref saved him the first time
jds loss
arlovski loss
hunt loss
overeem loss

Fedor 36-4
dan henderson loss
antonio silva loss
fabricio verdum loss
Tsuyoshi Kosaka loss
Fedor has more wins than Mir has fights.

common opponents
arlovski mir lost fedor won
hunt mir lost fedor won
silva mir won fedor lost
nogueira mir wins 2/2 fedor wins 2/3 their 2nd fight stopped for an accidental cut.

Then consider Mir fought 32 pounds heavier at 255 and was beat by a mediocre light heavyweight brandon vera.
Fedor's only losses come from guys that dwarfed him at 223 pounds with the exception being dan henderson, maybe you heard of him.

My post was mostly a little jab to the jon jones haters a little ribbing. I'm not interested in trolls, shit talkers, internet tough guys or the spineless fucks that roam this forum daily. There are shit loads of them, if that's what you are or what you're looking for move along.
 
Bareback

Bareback

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KryptoBud said:
Mir 18-11
brandon vera loss
josh barnett loss
dc loss
shane carwin loss
ian freeman (WHO) loss
mario cruz (who) loss
brock lesnar loss should've lost twice the ref saved him the first time
jds loss
arlovski loss
hunt loss
overeem loss

Fedor 36-4
dan henderson loss
antonio silva loss
fabricio verdum loss
Tsuyoshi Kosaka loss
Fedor has more wins than Mir has fights.

common opponents
arlovski mir lost fedor won
hunt mir lost fedor won
silva mir won fedor lost
nogueira mir wins 2/2 fedor wins 2/3 their 2nd fight stopped for an accidental cut.

Then consider Mir fought 32 pounds heavier at 255 and was beat by a mediocre light heavyweight brandon vera.
Fedor's only losses come from guys that dwarfed him at 223 pounds with the exception being dan henderson, maybe you heard of him.

My post was mostly a little jab to the jon jones haters a little ribbing. I'm not interested in trolls, shit talkers, internet tough guys or the spineless fucks that roam this forum daily. There are shit loads of them, if that's what you are or what you're looking for move along.
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Hey kryptobud tell us what you really think. Lol

Seriously what did you think of the NC with alverize , I know with the rules not being adopted it was a little confusing but that last knee wasn't legal anywhere. And Herb Dean has made some bad ( at least questionable ) calls in the past .
 
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KryptoBud

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Bareback said:
Hey kryptobud tell us what you really think. Lol

Seriously what did you think of the NC with alverize , I know with the rules not being adopted it was a little confusing but that last knee wasn't legal anywhere. And Herb Dean has made some bad ( at least questionable ) calls in the past .
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Yeah that was a bad call on the refs part. Alvarez should've been DQ'd Poirier loses a lot of money that he should've won. Maybe the UFC does the right thing and pays his win money who knows.
For Alvarez that was a blatant foul, really no excuse for it. The rule itself is fuckin dumb to begin with. Whats the difference between one hand down or two hands down? Nothing really, a lot fighters take advantage of it. A knee down is a different story and his knee was clearly down. It sucks how it ended it was starting to get good.
 
Bareback

Bareback

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mr sunshine said:
“Prostitutes? I beat you after a weekend of cocaine.”

“I had two great weekends. Back-to-back weekends. Cocaine one, your ass the next. It was great. That’s a month for the ages.” - Jon jones
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KryptoBud said:
Yeah that was a bad call on the refs part. Alvarez should've been DQ'd Poirier loses a lot of money that he should've won. Maybe the UFC does the right thing and pays his win money who knows.
For Alvarez that was a blatant foul, really no excuse for it. The rule itself is fuckin dumb to begin with. Whats the difference between one hand down or two hands down? Nothing really, a lot fighters take advantage of it. A knee down is a different story and his knee was clearly down. It sucks how it ended it was starting to get good.
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Did you get to see all the fights , I only got to watch the prelims , I seen some highlights and it looks like Joanna was on her game , damn she is bad . Stipe looked ok but the high lights just didn't show much. Jon Jones is back baby yes!!!

I have get off here I'm to high to type.
Tommorow when I read this I'm going to think I was hanging with stoned farmer
 
Dabbinblunted

Dabbinblunted

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Those knees from Eddie were definately illegal but I don't think it was intentional. I think he was out of it from Dustin almost knocking him out and he was kinda laying over his back where he didn't have the best view. Really sucked to see it end that way though. They were going at it good for a minute.
 
Mr.Head

Mr.Head

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KryptoBud said:
Mir 18-11
brandon vera loss
josh barnett loss
dc loss
shane carwin loss
ian freeman (WHO) loss
mario cruz (who) loss
brock lesnar loss should've lost twice the ref saved him the first time
jds loss
arlovski loss
hunt loss
overeem loss

Fedor 36-4
dan henderson loss
antonio silva loss
fabricio verdum loss
Tsuyoshi Kosaka loss
Fedor has more wins than Mir has fights.

common opponents
arlovski mir lost fedor won
hunt mir lost fedor won
silva mir won fedor lost
nogueira mir wins 2/2 fedor wins 2/3 their 2nd fight stopped for an accidental cut.

Then consider Mir fought 32 pounds heavier at 255 and was beat by a mediocre light heavyweight brandon vera.
Fedor's only losses come from guys that dwarfed him at 223 pounds with the exception being dan henderson, maybe you heard of him.

My post was mostly a little jab to the jon jones haters a little ribbing. I'm not interested in trolls, shit talkers, internet tough guys or the spineless fucks that roam this forum daily. There are shit loads of them, if that's what you are or what you're looking for move along.
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Yeah Frank lost to those guys. Fedor would have never fought them because he's a fucking myth that is protected because it's worth millions of dollars marketing it to idiots.

You can bring up Fedors amount of fights all you want, half his fights are with shit opponents that have no place on a record after guys like Noguiera. Isn't your opposition supposed to improve as you win? Not get so bad they are practically picking dudes off the street because they are tall?
 
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KryptoBud

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Mr.Head said:
Yeah Frank lost to those guys. Fedor would have never fought them because he's a fucking myth that is protected because it's worth millions of dollars marketing it to idiots.

You can bring up Fedors amount of fights all you wa nt, half his fights are with shit opponents that have no place on a record after guys like Noguiera. Isn't your opposition supposed to improve as you win? Not get so bad they are practically picking dudes off the street because they are tall?
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Like I said I don't give a shit who likes who as the best ever HW. It's opinion there's no right or wrong answer. I think if you look at it you have one with fixed fights the other 18-11 with 3 and 4 fight losing streaks, the fact that either could be considered or in the discussion of best ever along with a guy that's had 2 title defenses show how shitty that division is and has been for a long time. Look at the other divisions there's really not much debate on who's the best ever.
 
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