My First Vert

coreywebster

coreywebster

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JDMase said:
Im doubting that I'll stack two until September, I need a decent yield from the KK and BD to be able to afford it. I expect using one to just mean I'll get more larf on the bottom branches - no different to what a normal scrog would achieve. I still think this way of growing is more efficient and optimal for the space. Nobody ive spoken to off this site has agreed. Will wait and see what the yields say.
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Defo more efficient way of using that space. I have seen some incredible vert grows, I even thought about going that way myself until I built my cob light. It wouldn't be the best use of my space in my situation.

Good luck man, hope this grow really produces for you.
 
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JDMase

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coreywebster said:
Defo more efficient way of using that space. I have seen some incredible vert grows, I even thought about going that way myself until I built my cob light. It wouldn't be the best use of my space in my situation.

Good luck man, hope this grow really produces for you.
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I thought about going cobs or QB's, it would work for vert if you wanted to spend 600£, that is only 160 more than two CMH and you can cover three walls. Maybe I'll do it next year if I get another tent.. Would be a good comparison
 
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Kings kush still showing no signs of improvement, the dry dead leaves are creeping up the plant and through to the oldest fan leaves. New growth looks wirthered but not as dark, I gave up and flushed with ph 6.1 plain water, tomorrow I'll go back to 600ppm, 300 nutrient 300 tap water.

Can't quite figure out why this plants doig this when all my others seem fine. Maybe just over due a flush and some root space.
 
Cyah1990

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JDMase said:
Kings kush still showing no signs of improvement, the dry dead leaves are creeping up the plant and through to the oldest fan leaves. New growth looks wirthered but not as dark, I gave up and flushed with ph 6.1 plain water, tomorrow I'll go back to 600ppm, 300 nutrient 300 tap water.

Can't quite figure out why this plants doig this when all my others seem fine. Maybe just over due a flush and some root space.
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Damn! your tap water ppm is at 300?
 
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JDMase

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Cyah1990 said:
Damn! your tap water ppm is at 300?
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Yep! I have a Distiller but it does like 2 pints at a time. I do have RO water I just bought so I might start using that. Im always unsure how much cal mag to add and end up adding tap water to the RO
 
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JDMase

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The local report says:

"The water in your area is hard.

To help set your domestic appliances, the water hardness in different units is:
292.5 mg/l :Calcium Carbonate
117 mg/l :Calcium
20.358 °C :Degrees Clark
29.25 °F :Degrees French
16.614 °dH :Degrees German
2.925 mmol/l :Millimoles

The average chlorine concentration for this Public Water Supply Zone from January 2016 to December 2016 was <0.32 milligrammes per litre free chlorine and 0.480 milligrammes per litre total chlorine. This drinking water supply is not chloraminated."
 
THCBrain

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JDMase said:
GOT ROOTS?!
I love seeing lots of roots, because that means lots of fruits!

This Grapefruit has plenty of roots, I need to figure out a way to raise the cubes off the tray, but can also support the weight of the plant. I need some type of grill. Im gonna give the trellis I used a go but I feel it won't take the weight.

I watched an interesting video about air pruning and the "4 inch rule" anyone else heard of it?
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I too have watched the video about the 4 inch, very interesting as well, since watching that video I looked through my last crop and found it was true, but I didn't get that solid mass of root he had.
 
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JDMase

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So Kings kush is still progressing with deficiencies, switched to RO water, floranova bloom nutes to get rid of the nitrogen def 500ppm(used this throughout before as it follows the lucas formula) cal mag at 1ml per litre as per bottle, and some hydroguard at 2ml per us gal.


Also my clones have mould appearing since I put the dome back on, got rid of two with visible mould, sprayed the rest with h2o2 and opened the vents on the Dome.

This grow is kicking my ass hard
 
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JDMase

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Affected leaves around the middle and bottom of the plant, so it's creeping up. Have already flushed with plain RO yesterday. New growth looks ok, still all clawing downward and cupping the same way, but not as dark in colour. Any help?
 

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Cyah1990

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JDMase said:
So Kings kush is still progressing with deficiencies, switched to RO water, floranova bloom nutes to get rid of the nitrogen def 500ppm(used this throughout before as it follows the lucas formula) cal mag at 1ml per litre as per bottle, and some hydroguard at 2ml per us gal.


Also my clones have mould appearing since I put the dome back on, got rid of two with visible mould, sprayed the rest with h2o2 and opened the vents on the Dome.

This grow is kicking my ass hard
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Oh yea I was gonna say about the cloning, use a aeroponic cloning system, no domes, or misting, it changed my life wen it came to cloning.
 
Cyah1990

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JDMase said:
Affected leaves around the middle and bottom of the plant, so it's creeping up. Have already flushed with plain RO yesterday. New growth looks ok, still all clawing downward and cupping the same way, but not as dark in colour. Any help?
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Yea stick with the ro water or leave the tap water out in the open for 24 hrs, do u check ph?
 
coreywebster

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If you do use RO make sure your getting all those micros your plants need in your nutrients. Personally I think we have damn fine water in most of our country.. Damn fine water. Mine is hard too but its not that hard, since I use canna range nutrients its a bonus since they are designed to be used with tap water. For hard water you generally feed about 20% less nutrients depending on the hardness.

You could be right on the Potassium def, Would make sense, according to mulders chart too much N can cause a decreased availability of potassium.

I know you grow in rockwool cubes but in what method do you use them JDM?
 
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JDMase

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coreywebster said:
If you do use RO make sure your getting all those micros your plants need in your nutrients. Personally I think we have damn fine water in most of our country.. Damn fine water. Mine is hard too but its not that hard, since I use canna range nutrients its a bonus since they are designed to be used with tap water. For hard water you generally feed about 20% less nutrients depending on the hardness.

You could be right on the Potassium def, Would make sense, according to mulders chart too much N can cause a decreased availability of potassium.

I know you grow in rockwool cubes but in what method do you use them JDM?
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I use floranova bloom it's supposedly best used with RO because it conforms with the KISS or lucas method.

I used canna before, might switch back to them after I use up this stuff.

Hmm yeah I just checked that chart you're right. Im not sure whether to do a flush again, might just do another reduce nute maybe down to 300ppm's.

So I just top feed them with a watering can. I treat it like you would coco or soil I guess. I did have a drip feeder but I didn't get on with it.
 
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JDMase

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Kings Kush is lookig healthier but it's still got clawing leaves, but the new growth seems to be happier, I think another low ppm leach should do it.

Black dog is steaming ahead. Looking really happy. Didn't stretch hardly at all, I did use my topping technique though, looks like it's gonna be really bushy and dense

Than the dwarf candy kush, really packing on some trichomes now, Yep, it's in my 12/12 flower tent.

I figured 12 hours of CMH would be better than 24 of 125w cfl.

Grapefruit Pineapple Express and tangie are all almost as tall as my veg tent. Underestimated how big they'd get. Tangie smelling so citrusy it's a definite keeper. Grapefruit completely root bound and pineapple being the smallest with sweet hints. All in veg.

Unsure whether to cut tops for clones and let them bush out and put them each in the flower tent when the others are done, or whether to put grapefruit in the flower tent and run a perpetual.
 

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