Thai_Lights
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In the form of AACT or salts in soil?
Anyone mix synthetics and organics?
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indianajones
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I make soils from scratch then water with Jack's. Best method I've used to date, check my threads.
Thai_Lights
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Will do thanks
dirtWeevil
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urban farm fertilizer utilizes both, it's a small batch company in Freeport Texas, they make Texas tomato food which is excellent, their product for our purposes is called garden of Eden. Very easy to use, half tablespoon per gallon for seedlings, tblspoon per gallon for the remainder of the grow. It's about 15$ a quart on Amazon and a quart makes 64 gallons. They use a mix of chelated minerals and beneficials plus biozyme(if I remember the name correctly) and other stuff. It can also be used in any hydroponic setup, the guy that makes it grows huge Dutch bucket tomatoes
Thai_Lights
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I was in the organic section asking about my organic mix which is castings/aeration/peat and use Aact teas for veg and then switch to synthetic nutes but some of the organic guys says mixing the two won't work pick one or the other
dirtWeevil
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human nature forces dichotomy in everything we do. In my experience they work well together, it wasn't long ago the organic crowd was touting the benefits of adding beneficial organisms as a means to remediate soil and use less volume of nitrogen ferts. IMO the need to be one or the other is holding back the benefits of working together, in damn near every facet of life today.
Thai_Lights
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Love that answer.
SouthCross
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Yeah ok...
First watering to promix is a simple compost tea for sprouted seeds. Nothing but worm crap and black strap. The next feeding will the same tea and 1/3 rd dose of liquid fish. Come the 4th week. I quit dicking around and go chemical. Organic before flower. Chems during flower.
Thai_Lights
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No issues with ph or anything? Do you ph your teas? Or organic chems
SouthCross
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No, kinda. I batch check the ph of the stored water that came from a dehumidifier. I use General Hydroponics Flora in soil. It'll drop the water PH fairly low.
I'm on the side of the fence that holds faith in the buffering qualities of soil. I've mistakenly water some plants with 4.5 PH. The only way I could tell the PH was low. I was getting bored and decided to check the water. They received the water for close to three weeks.
Tested other water. 6.0-7.5.
I haven't experienced nute lock. The only additives to promix. Dolomite(1tbsp per gallon) and perlite.
I stopped altogether checking PH. Unless there's a problem, I haven't had a need to adjust the PH.
I'm on the side of the fence that holds faith in the buffering qualities of soil. I've mistakenly water some plants with 4.5 PH. The only way I could tell the PH was low. I was getting bored and decided to check the water. They received the water for close to three weeks.
Tested other water. 6.0-7.5.
I haven't experienced nute lock. The only additives to promix. Dolomite(1tbsp per gallon) and perlite.
I stopped altogether checking PH. Unless there's a problem, I haven't had a need to adjust the PH.
chemphlegm
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yes, bottom wick fed from a synth reservoir top fed with organic nutrients, pro mix, no issue as long as zero top watering after initial.
Thai_Lights
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Have you had an issue before top feeding synthetics after you have top dressed organics or liquid?
OldMedUser
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I use ProMix HP mixed half and half with their potting soil and supplement with AN nutes. Also feed them some molasses/honey to keep the myco happy. Compared to just running straight HP that has no nutes I feed a lot less when mixed with the potting soil or the Veg&Herb mix.
Thai_Lights
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Happy to see people mixing the two makes me feel more comfortable on my new endeavour
chemphlegm
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I've never poured synths over organics in pro mix sorry.
ALong14U
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Well. I could go take pics but I'll spare you. I use Neptune's harvest in veg along with GH Flora grow and Micro. I'll post a pic of my plants. You can do anything you want brother! That's the beauty of this great plant. I also use GH in a DWC tub and the transfer to dirt.....The sky is the limit. Happy growing.
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stnr420
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Liquid organic base....synthetic boosters...is what i use in soiless medium...best of both worlds
Richard Drysift
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That's because synthetic nutes will slowly kill off the microherd. It can however be done if you continually replace the microbes with teas or compost in your mix. Sure you can do whatever you want; the plants don't care but the soil microbes and fungi do.
Anything from a bottle that has NPK values higher than 5 will send a living soil mix into a tizzy eventually. If your soil is super rich already a few applications of synth nutes won't hurt much but used in the long run dissolved salts dry out the bodies of your microherd and then you will have to keep on using synthetics until harvest. That's fine if that is what you want to do but if you don't want to use nutrients then you have to use clean water sources and no synth nutes added. That's why I said stay organic or don't bother; it's really a matter of choice. Those who are straddling both disciplines are not growing organic bud.
Rocket Soul
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Subbed. This is the thread i wanted to start. Do the way you ph your water also matter? Heard some of the ph down products are worse than the synt nutes. Also if i were to do a synt pk boost on organic grown plants which brand to use?