Dr. Who
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That's for an Iron def. Thing is, FE def looks a lot like S def.
Broad mites
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haloman420
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I had spider mites several grows. You can always see them under the leaf. I want to say if you cant see them its probably not bugs.
Sour Cooper
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OK here's what I found. I finally got a magnifying glass strong enough to see bugs. I have mites that are a cream color and have black spots on them. I think spider mites which I hope are easier to get rid of. Not sure if the different color on the leaves is caused by them.
MMJ Dreaming 99
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Are you in Flower? USA? Nice avatar.
Cheap option.
http://www.hansenfamilyfarm.com/blog/make-your-own-non-toxic-insecticidal-spray-soap
Fels Naptha soap on detergent aisle at wal mart or any grocery store $1.20.
Cheese grater Dolllar Tree $1.00
Need a sprayer bottle $1.00 Dollar Tree and you can get 2 quart plastic jars for $1.00
Need to warm it up then cool.
One poster here used Fels Naptha then bought Capt Jacks Dead Bug Brew. He also mixed the two.
Ivory white dishwashing soap at wal mart $2.67. It will last you forever.
http://homeguides.sfgate.com/use-dish-soap-spider-mites-99718.html
Canola oil $1.00 wal mart or anywhere else.
http://living.thebump.com/apply-canola-oil-pesticide-8654.html
Reciepe also includes small amount of dish soap.
Do not delay. Get on this ASAP. Spray with lights off. Let sit for an hour or so and turn on fans with lights off.
With all these methods you may want to come back 4-5 hours later and spray clear water to rinse off with lights and fans off and then turn on fans. Let dry before hitting again with grow lights.
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Dr.Nick Riviera
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Sour Cooper
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MMJ Dreaming 99 thsnks on the avatar. I'm in Santa Cruz CA, outdoors just starting to see white hairs. Thanks for the reply.
MMJ Dreaming 99
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Outdoors is trickier. There is a guy on here who I like who is also in Santa Cruz area. I think it is Grease Monkey Man. I think he uses beneficial insects but they are not cheap and can be tricky.
I am not sure how big your plants are or how many. You might want to get a one gallon sprayer and try those ideas I mentioned. Harbor Frienght has good prices on 1 or 2 gallon sprayers. About $12 to 14. They usually have a 20% coupon you can bring up on your phone at the register.
Spray when sun goes down and then rinse with water in the morning.
Maybe check local grow store but their solution maybe be expensive.
Sour Cooper
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MMJ Dreaming 99 out local grow shop said to use Aramaic.
MMJ Dreaming 99
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Weird. I did a search and found nothing? Is it expensive?
Any growers clubs locally? The funny thing is women who do gardening and farmers locally probably have some ideas, A lot of middle aged ladies probably know more about dealing with garden bugs than most mmj growers.
The soaps and canola oil are cheap options.
Sour Cooper
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Sorry auto correction it is Azamax
MMJ Dreaming 99
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Azamax is good. Not as cheap as the solutions I suggested. Outdoor is such a different ballgame.
One young fellow here with beautiful indoor plants sprays once a week in veg with Azamax and says he has not problems during flower.
Sour Cooper
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Cool thank you for your time!
MMJ Dreaming 99
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No problem. If you have a smaller number of plants then Azamax is good. A lot - it can get expensive. The soaps and Canola oil are cheap alternatives or additional things you can throw at the mites with a gallon or two sprayer.
If that Avatar is your friend then enjoy their company. Labs are great dogs.
Sour Cooper
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Yeah, he is my boy! Only have the one plant but looking to get one or two more in a few weeks or so. The one I have was given to me and she came from indoors and was a mother plant
Thank you for all your help!
Thank you for all your help!
backtracker
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From theTrifecta fact sheet: " The combined action of bio-degradation from resident bacteria, and the degradation action from the intense photons hitting the plant everything is broken down and gone within 48-72 hours. Sunlight, photons helps speed up the process, but even in the dark bacteria will be hard at work breaking the residuals down."
Forbid
*** Not for Sale To; California **
For professional use only
For control of mites and whiteflies on ornamental plants in and around areas such as parks, golf courses, recreational areas, and residential or commercial buildings. WHERE TO APPLY
To shrubs, trees (including non-bearing fruit and nut trees), flowers and foliage plants in outdoor landscapes. Not for use on edible plants. Effective for up to 45 days.
MMJ Dreaming 99
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Beautiful pup. They are so smart. I had a yellow girl who came to work every day.
A few plants is pretty easy. I did not know if you had a bunch of big ones outdoors.
Another thing you can do is find some stuff for the base of the plant to keep them crawling up the stem of the plant. It is a sticky stuff. I cannot remember the name. Mites will fly through the air too. Good luck.
Dr. Who
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Go yell at someone else!
As for the forbid - your quoting a government required label that states generalities. RESEARCH THE CHEMICAL!
I don't give a shit what Cali say's or has in laws. Cali does not speak for the country, nor do you, nor do I.
Use it or not - that's up to you. But stating opinion over real research is not giving facts!
If you do the actual research, you will find a far shorter effective life at the concentrations used on cannabis. You use 8 drops in a gallon of water. If you bother to look up the tox reports from college's and the one's from the EU (They are FAR-FAR harder to pass for legal use [it did]). You would find it is not considered toxic to humans. The caution rating by the US Gov. is for possible skin rash and eye discomfort by those who maybe allergic.
BTW, at the concentration I gave - 8 drops per gallon is less then 1/4 the concentration of it's given mix rate and also a tic less then the concentration of the product Oberon mix rate, which is a less then half strength version of FORBID that IS USED ON FRUITS AND VEGGIE's...
If you eat strawberries. You've eaten a product that is the plant that Oberon is applied to more then any other! (Last I knew years ago).
As far as your crappy essential oil based product goes - Spray away, keep spraying too. You will be for a long time and still not kill the Russet or the Broad mite to any real effect.....It's obvious you have little to no idea the problem with getting any kind of control over them....
I don't know or care what California's problem is on some products.....I began there and I moved away.
DO THE PROPER RESEARCH!
Dr. Who
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I tend to doubt your claim (certified applicator)....Your making assumptive guess's from information you have no background study in, other then to say that "something that has a mix rate of 8 drops a gallon is far from relatively safe!" It has no known human health issues!
You are right about it being about the only thing that does the job!
Spiromesifen is an insecticide and acaricide from the class of tetronic acid derivatives, developed by Bayer CropScience and sold since 2006 by Bayer under the brand name Oberon® .It acts via an inhibition of the fat metabolism.
Tetronic acids are used in skin lotions!
I am a certified applicator.....You need to look at actual tox reports...You need to simply google spiromesifen..It is nothing more then a tetronic acid. That is a good sized family of acids....In long term studies of field workers exposed to inhalation of the product, no negative effects other then some skin irritation from contact exposure has been found. This is not from studies to certify the product for use. It is a long term study I read about in a college Ag report...... If you know how to research - you can find it.
MMJ Dreaming 99
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Correct stuff. How late into flower would you spray Forbid? It does the job
Any idea what the connection between Bayer's white fly solution and Bat
8 drops per gallon? I thought you could use 1 ml per gallon which is probably about 2 drops.Go yell at someone else!
As for the forbid - your quoting a government required label that states generalities. RESEARCH THE CHEMICAL!
I don't give a shit what Cali say's or has in laws. Cali does not speak for the country, nor do you, nor do I.
Use it or not - that's up to you. But stating opinion over real research is not giving facts!
If you do the actual research, you will find a far shorter effective life at the concentrations used on cannabis. You use 8 drops in a gallon of water. If you bother to look up the tox reports from college's and the one's from the EU (They are FAR-FAR harder to pass for legal use [it did]). You would find it is not considered toxic to humans. The caution rating by the US Gov. is for possible skin rash and eye discomfort by those who maybe allergic.
BTW, at the concentration I gave - 8 drops per gallon is less then 1/4 the concentration of it's given mix rate and also a tic less then the concentration of the product Oberon mix rate, which is a less then half strength version of FORBID that IS USED ON FRUITS AND VEGGIE's...
If you eat strawberries. You've eaten a product that is the plant that Oberon is applied to more then any other! (Last I knew years ago).
As far as your crappy essential oil based product goes - Spray away, keep spraying too. You will be for a long time and still not kill the Russet or the Broad mite to any real effect.....It's obvious you have little to no idea the problem with getting any kind of control over them....
I don't know or care what California's problem is on some products.....I began there and I moved away.
DO THE PROPER RESEARCH!
I agree about Cali. Paradise destroyed by vile people.
Norby Grown
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Sounds similar to eagle 20. 