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DekaBoS

Member
hey guys yes the title is a play on words. I need a nap :sleep:

Anyhoo I am wondering what you think this medikush plant could be lacking in? She's showing some signs of deficiency for sure! It is in an all amended organic soil and the soil has 2 types, a veg and a bloom. I transplanted it from the veg into the bloom soil a couple months ago. ( yes big issues where I had to keep the lady alive instead of flower her [til now!] ) I am thinking she ate up all or most of a certain nutrient in the soil, but I am not able to pinpoint what she wants more of!

Any ideas would be appreciated, I ph my water to 6-6.5 every time I fill the water bucket:peace:
IMG_2481.JPG Top view here

IMG_2480.JPG And a closer up view

Let me know whatcha think,

Thanks guys!
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Indacouch

Well-Known Member
hey guys yes the title is a play on words. I need a nap :sleep:

Anyhoo I am wondering what you think this medikush plant could be lacking in? She's showing some signs of deficiency for sure! It is in an all amended organic soil and the soil has 2 types, a veg and a bloom. I transplanted it from the veg into the bloom soil a couple months ago. ( yes big issues where I had to keep the lady alive instead of flower her [til now!] ) I am thinking she ate up all or most of a certain nutrient in the soil, but I am not able to pinpoint what she wants more of!

Any ideas would be appreciated, I ph my water to 6-6.5 every time I fill the water bucket:peace:
View attachment 3931934 Top view here

View attachment 3931935 And a closer up view

Let me know whatcha think,

Thanks guys!
:confused::confused::confused:
The first response you got was rite on the money IMO .....looks like you went a little heavy on the N ....dark green leafs with yellow tips is a good indicator of N tox.....if your feeding any extra N into the soil I'd stop .....GL
 

DekaBoS

Member
I would stop feeding for 8 to 10 days and just give em ph balanced water. If the problem dosnt clear up let us know.
The first response you got was rite on the money IMO .....looks like you went a little heavy on the N ....dark green leafs with yellow tips is a good indicator of N tox.....if your feeding any extra N into the soil I'd stop .....GL
All the nutrients are in the soil, I am only giving them water, so this leaves me wondering of how I should go about decreasing any nutrient intakes without limiting them all?

Cal/Mag should clear it up in about 4 to 6 days.
Bear what will cal/mag do for her?

Thanks for the replies guys whatcha thinkin?
 

Bear420

Well-Known Member
Well first of all we can talk about Magnesium Deficiency,
It is common indoors, The lower leaves and later the middle leaves develop yellow Patches between dark green veins, Rusty brown spots appear on the leaf margins,tips,and between the veins as the deficiency progresses. The brownish leaf tip usually curl upward before dying. The entire plant can discolor in a few weeks, and if severe enough can turn yellow-whitish tinge before browning and dying, a minor def escalates and cause a diminished harvest,

Calcium. is somewhat uncommon indoors but not uncommon in hemp, plants can Process more calcium than available, It also washes out of the leaves that are sprayed with water.
Deficiency signs may be difficult to detect, They start with weak stems,very dark green foliage and exceptionally slow growth, Young leaves are affected,and they show the signs first. Severe calcium def. causes new growing shoots to develop yellowish to purple hues, and to disfigure before shriveling up and dying, Bud development is inhibited, the plants stunt and diminish.
Growing tips could show signs of calcium deficiency if the humidity is maxed out. At 100% hum the stomata close, which stops the transpiration to protect the plant, at a glance
Slow growth and young leaves turn very dark green, which is not nitrogen diff.
New growing shoots discolor
new shoots contort and shrivel and die
Bud development is slowed dramatically.

Toxicity
is difficult to see in the foliage. it cause wilting, toxic levels also exacerbate deficiencies of potassium.magnesium,manganese,and Iron.
The nutes, become unavailable even though they are present. If excessive amounts of soluble calcium are applied early in life, it can also stunt the growth.

In just My Opinion that it is Cal-Mag they need. I seen the yellow between the veins and the curling up tips. and it can look like nitrogen toxic but i believe it is not that, and a calcium and magnesium diff.

Good Luck with everything, all in all they look okay.

Nitrogen toxicity,
An overdose of Nitrogen will cause excessively lush foliage that is soft and susceptible to stress, including insects and fungal attacks. The stems become weak and they may fold over easily. The vascular transport tissue breaks down, and water uptake is restricted.
In severe cases, leaves turn a brownish-copper color, dry and fall off, roots develop slowly and they tend to darken and rot, flowers are smaller and sparse, Ammonium toxicity is most common is acidic soils,while nitrate toxicity is more prevalent in alkaline soil.
Excessively lush green foliage.
weak stems that fold over.
Slow root development.
flowers become wispy.

good luck
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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doesn't look like overfeeding to me, looks like a manganese lockout caused by either high ph, too much iron in your feed / water, or both
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
that chart is kind of old and not very accurate, zinc deficiency is a lot more yellow than their picture, phosphorous def. has a lot more red/purple than they show....
the leaves don't look particularly dark green to me...theres no clawing over the whole plant....... theres no tip burn over the whole plant....theres damage to older growth, starting at the edges and working in......
https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog-cannabis-nutrient-and-deficiency-table-n88
not a great guide, but a good picture....of manganese deficiency
 

tpc_mikey

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since your growing in an organic soil introduce some bennies get you some recharge, and i agree it does look like a cal/mag deficiancy what did you amend your soil with? and what type of primary organic soil are you using? I use FFOF amended with wormcastings,tomato tone, kelp meal and some hi cal dolomite lime. my plant is 82 days old in 15th day of flower and i have given nothing but water with a couple doeses of recharge.IMG_1319.JPG
 
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