Do you trust mainstream media?

Do you trust mainstream media?


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UncleBuck

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Which is exactly what CNN does every time they have a "debate" about anthropogenic climate change

But they're still a credible "news" organization in your opinion


Riveting shit..
yep. compare holocaust denial to climate change skepticism, say black voters have a "herd like mentality", support "men's rights", and keep wondering why you lost the democratic nomination by 4 million votes among a constituency that is largely black, female, and jewish.

bernie sanders is out right now campaigning for a guy who supports mandatory ultrasounds for women who seek abortions. where's your fucking purity test now?
 

ttystikk

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yep. compare holocaust denial to climate change skepticism, say black voters have a "herd like mentality", support "men's rights", and keep wondering why you lost the democratic nomination by 4 million votes among a constituency that is largely black, female, and jewish.

bernie sanders is out right now campaigning for a guy who supports mandatory ultrasounds for women who seek abortions. where's your fucking purity test now?
Bernie has lost a lot of credibility of late.

I'm not jumping to the defense of the Holocaust denier above, even if Churchill was a bastard.

Men DO have rights, just not at the expense of anyone else's.

A herd mentality explains the degenerate currently living in the White House but it cut along racist lines, not racial ones.
 

Padawanbater2

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yep. compare holocaust denial to climate change skepticism
I didn't compare holocaust denial to climate change skepticism, I highlighted your double standard for accepting mainstream news as automatic fact. You told Flowki "to imply there is any argument to be had would be to confer credibility on the monumentally retarded", which is exactly what CNN does in regards to the anthropogenic climate change "debate".

Flowki is a retard according to you yet CNN is credible even though they do the exact same thing by implying there is any argument to be had by hiring climate change deniers to panel their opposition against the scientific fact that climate change is happening and humans are responsible

say black voters have a "herd like mentality"
Addressed here
support "men's rights"
Do you oppose "men's rights"?
and keep wondering why you lost the democratic nomination by 4 million votes
I know why Sanders lost the Democratic primary; because the DNC, the Clinton campaign and factions of the mainstream media rigged it which is why Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the US at 75% approval while Hillary Clinton sits at 35%. For context, Trump is more popular than Hillary Clinton at 37%. A guy who admits he grabs women by the pussy and doesn't even ask first is more popular than Hillary Clinton.. that is absolutely embarrassing.
 

Big_Lou

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yep. compare holocaust denial to climate change skepticism, say black voters have a "herd like mentality", support "men's rights", and keep wondering why you lost the democratic nomination by 4 million votes among a constituency that is largely black, female, and jewish.

bernie sanders is out right now campaigning for a guy who supports mandatory ultrasounds for women who seek abortions. where's your fucking purity test now?
"Men's rights", lol! Someone hasn't been laid in a looonnnnnnggggg time. Smacks of sexual insecurities/inability to bring a partner to orgasm/misogyny/general corniness/etc.

Rather like these dummies: "Hey! Black folks have BET and WETV, why don't WE have WHITE channels, huh??"

L--O--L !!
 

Flowki

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Bernie has lost a lot of credibility of late.

I'm not jumping to the defense of the Holocaust denier above, even if Churchill was a bastard.

Men DO have rights, just not at the expense of anyone else's.

A herd mentality explains the degenerate currently living in the White House but it cut along racist lines, not racial ones.
I'm not denying the holocaust at all, but simply stating that the number killed was a lot less than western propaganda originally made out on top of the hate they fueled toward all German people, mothers getting raped as daughters watched, then the daughters getting raped as mothers watched, multiple times. Those civilians could not help the country and mess they were born in.

I'm also comparing the amount of light/disgust the Holocaust gets while the millions of people Churchill had a hand in killing gets very little attention. One could also say he had a hand in paving the way for America to drop the nukes and also go on to indiscriminately bomb the shit out of the Vietnamese. The Americans justifie it because it saved ''American soldiers''. Over Germany, Japan and Vietnam they killed well over 300 civilians to every American soldier lost. You think that's acceptable, anybody wonder why most of the world has such hatred for England and America?. We are genuinely nations derived from unanswered war crimes and terrorism.

It's not in the distant past, what was Iraq?. What of the current middle east situation.
 

Justin-case

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I'm not denying the holocaust at all, but simply stating that the number killed was a lot less than western propaganda originally made out on top of the hate they fueled toward all German people, mothers getting raped as daughters watched, then the daughters getting raped as mothers watched, multiple times. Those civilians could not help the country and mess they were born in.

I'm also comparing the amount of light/disgust the Holocaust gets while the millions of people Churchill had a hand in killing gets very little attention. One could also say he had a hand in paving the way for America to drop the nukes and also go on to indiscriminately bomb the shit out of the Vietnamese. The Americans justifie it because it saved ''American soldiers''. Over Germany, Japan and Vietnam they killed well 300 civilians to every American soldier lost. You think that's acceptable, anybody wonder why most of the world has such hatred for England and America?. We are genuinely nations derived from unanswered war crimes and terrorism.


Lol, where do you get your propaganda from, tampee?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
that's called holocaust denial.
:hump:
They recently released a whole slew of privately archived material about the Holocaust, I heard about it on NPR. If anything, it confirms the worst of what we already knew.

The Allied forces of WWII certainly committed some atrocities during the war.

Churchill definitely had a hand in starving Indians.

What Americans did in Vietnam is totally irrelevant and happened 25 years later.

None of that excuses or diminishes the Holocaust.
 

Flowki

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:hump:
They recently released a whole slew of privately archived material about the Holocaust, I heard about it on NPR. If anything, it confirms the worst of what we already knew.

The Allied forces of WWII certainly committed some atrocities during the war.

Churchill definitely had a hand in starving Indians.

What Americans did in Vietnam is totally irrelevant and happened 25 years later.

None of that excuses or diminishes the Holocaust.
I do believe gas chambers were a thing, as were the original gas vans, firing squads, tying people together and throwing them off bridges (and far worse). I also believe the amount killed was more than ''deniers'' claim. What I based my final verdict on was that newspaper thing, so many isolated incidents pre war of ''6 million Jews'' being killed in a separate Holocaust, famine or what ever else. The same/similar number was given for ww2 and I have to question why that number keeps popping up, those news papers are there to see (but if they are faked I revoke this opinion). One could say that it was actually more than 6 million that died in the war.. but it would be safer to assume this was yet another fabrication of an already well used propaganda figure across countless unrelated events. I do not know if those previous separate cases had any substance in truth, did those Jews die of starvation or what ever else?.. if so, it's almost impossible that 6 million Jews in every case was the figure, for coincidental and numerical reasons. If those isolated cases were simply lies or fabrication then it proves my point either way.

What America done to the Japanese(lets not forget) and Vietnam is completely relevant to Churchill, he paved the way to make bombing civilians a tactic. It is like saying the British, who rolled the first machine over the trenches had nothing to do with the eventual inception of the tiger tank. Or the Germans and rockets > America > moon. Was it rockets by Germany?.. well you get what I mean.

None of this is meant to excuse or diminish the holocaust. Main stream media/history books teach in a very black and white good and evil way. They leave out or lie about information that would project a more grey picture, a middle ground of responsibility and punishment for blatant war crimes. If mainstream media and ''official'' reports are to be trusted, along with acting on that information then Tony, Bush and those involved should be in jail.

Mainstream media in my country for the past few year. They show as little of Jeremy corb as possible, he even says this himself. They show you what they want to try and manipulate outcomes. The guy has huge support yet gets little to no air time.. while some of what he does get is done in a way as to undermine him. Leaving out a side of a story is as good as lying.
 
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tangerinegreen555

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I do believe gas chambers were a thing, as were the original gas vans, firing squads, tying people together and throwing them off bridges (and far worse). I also believe the amount killed was more than ''deniers'' claim. What I based my final verdict on was that newspaper thing, so many isolated incidents pre war of ''6 million Jews'' being killed in a separate Holocaust, famine or what ever else. The same/similar number was given for ww2 and I have to question why that number keeps popping up, those news papers are there to see (but if they are faked I revoke this opinion). One could say that it was actually more than 6 million that died in the war.. but it would be safer to assume this was yet another fabrication of an already well used propaganda figure across countless unrelated events. I do not know if those previous separate cases had any substance in truth, did those Jews die of starvation or what ever else?.. if so, it's almost impossible that 6 million Jews in every case was the figure, for coincidental and numerical reasons. If those isolated cases were simply lies or fabrication then it proves my point either way.

What America done to the Japanese(lets not forget) and Vietnam is completely relevant to Churchill, he paved the way to make bombing civilians a tactic. It is like saying the British, who rolled the first machine over the trenches had nothing to do with the eventual inception of the tiger tank. Or the Germans and rockets > America > moon. Was it rockets by Germany?.. well you get what I mean.

None of this is meant to excuse or diminish the holocaust. Main stream media/history books teach in a very black and white good and evil way. They leave out or lie about information that would project a more grey picture, a middle ground of responsibility and punishment for blatant war crimes. If mainstream media and ''official'' reports are to be trusted, along with acting on that information then Tony, Bush and those involved should be in jail.

Mainstream media in my country for the past few year. They show as little of Jeremy corb as possible, he even says this himself. They show you what they want to try and manipulate outcomes. The guy has huge support yet gets little to no air time.. while some of what he does get is done in a way as to undermine him. Leaving out a side of a story is as good as lying.
Distorted nut case.

Try sticking to the verified factual evidence.
 

Big_Lou

Well-Known Member
I do believe gas chambers were a thing, as were the original gas vans, firing squads, tying people together and throwing them off bridges (and far worse). I also believe the amount killed was more than ''deniers'' claim. What I based my final verdict on was that newspaper thing, so many isolated incidents pre war of ''6 million Jews'' being killed in a separate Holocaust, famine or what ever else. The same/similar number was given for ww2 and I have to question why that number keeps popping up, those news papers are there to see (but if they are faked I revoke this opinion). One could say that it was actually more than 6 million that died in the war.. but it would be safer to assume this was yet another fabrication of an already well used propaganda figure across countless unrelated events. I do not know if those previous separate cases had any substance in truth, did those Jews die of starvation or what ever else?.. if so, it's almost impossible that 6 million Jews in every case was the figure, for coincidental and numerical reasons. If those isolated cases were simply lies or fabrication then it proves my point either way.

What America done to the Japanese(lets not forget) and Vietnam is completely relevant to Churchill, he paved the way to make bombing civilians a tactic. It is like saying the British, who rolled the first machine over the trenches had nothing to do with the eventual inception of the tiger tank. Or the Germans and rockets > America > moon. Was it rockets by Germany?.. well you get what I mean.

None of this is meant to excuse or diminish the holocaust. Main stream media/history books teach in a very black and white good and evil way. They leave out or lie about information that would project a more grey picture, a middle ground of responsibility and punishment for blatant war crimes. If mainstream media and ''official'' reports are to be trusted, along with acting on that information then Tony, Bush and those involved should be in jail.

Mainstream media in my country for the past few year. They show as little of Jeremy corb as possible, he even says this himself. They show you what they want to try and manipulate outcomes. The guy has huge support yet gets little to no air time.. while some of what he does get is done in a way as to undermine him. Leaving out a side of a story is as good as lying.

Bob, laughing at you from beyond the grave:

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Flowki

Well-Known Member
Distorted nut case.

Try sticking to the verified factual evidence.
Theirs a difference between being critically impartial over believing in any conspiracy OR ''verified'' evidence. I know it's a tough concept to understand due to your culture of pick a side and then religiously hate the other to death.
 
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