My 8hr flowering experiment

[torontoke]

OK, I understand now. I just flipped mine but I am starting with 12/12 just to find out if they are all female or not. Considering my obvious lack of light I may just run with that for the first grow. Thanks again.

FWIW I think your buds look plenty frosty. If my connection had stuff that nice I would be a very happy (and stoned) guy.

I don't ever assume I'm better or worse then the next guy. If bobs used to bud with more resin then I'd love to try it myself. I'm jealous and yet happy with what I have.
Contentment my friend is a realistic goal

 

[BobCajun]

I don't know what to say mr bob
All through this run I've been posting shots of even the lowers being covered in resin but perhaps my standards are lower then yours sir.
I thought these had to much shine to even show up in pictures tbh.
Wasn't really lookin to share my non potent yet super fat n smelly bud anyway so everyone wins

I see. Didn't actually look at the rest of the thread. Got kind of tired after the first 50 pages. Next time I want to read War and Peace I'll just read this thread instead. It'll take longer but oh well.

 

[torontoke]

I see. Didn't actually look at the rest of the thread. Got kind of tired after the first 50 pages. Next time I want to read War and Peace I'll just read this thread instead. It'll take longer but oh well.

Sorry to disappoint you yet again bob.
You seem like a difficult person to get along with.
Please don't feel obligated to honour my humble journal with your presence there's thousands of other threads that require a dose of your saltiness.

 

[BobCajun]

Sorry to disappoint you yet again bob.
You seem like a difficult person to get along with.
Please don't feel obligated to honour my humble journal with your presence there's thousands of other threads that require a dose of your saltiness.

True enough, as you were then. I'll just fucking ignore your bloated threads from now on cuz you ain't even slightly enjoyable to converse with. Which is probably why you got run off everybody else's threads and have to stay in your own. Actually the only reason I posted here recently is because it showed up in my alerts from when I posted a while ago, not due to my interest in the thread. I'll just hit unwatch thread up there at top of the page. Should have done that before apparently.

 

[torontoke]

True enough, as you were then. I'll just fucking ignore your bloated threads from now on cuz you ain't even slightly enjoyable to converse with. Which is probably why you got run off everybody else's threads and have to stay in your own. Actually the only reason I posted here recently is because it showed up in my alerts from when I posted a while ago, not due to my interest in the thread. I'll just hit unwatch thread up there at top of the page. Should have done that before apparently.

See now that's just rude sir.
Probably not untrue yet rude nonetheless
You might think I only hang out in here but I have seen your negative comments in many threads and yet still tried to be hospitable to you.
Unfortunately my personality is abrasive to some and not abrasive enough for others.
Have a good day and I wish u luck in your search for someone slightly enjoyable to talk to.

 

[torontoke]

 

[SSGrower]

I find your lighting schedule interisting and hope to incorporat what you have learned/seen. I have chosen my light cycles and flip method and will modify it as I see fit. I see it possible that changing day length (e.g. from 24 hrs, to 20 hrs) could very much be usefull. 25 years ago my technique evolved from using the old mechanical timers, I have never (until now) gone direct to flower, I would just gradually shorten day cycles/lengthen night over 14-30 days. Now I am using an arduino, I am not limited to a 24hr day and have basically limitless options for light timing. I currently run 17/7 in veg and 11/13 in flower (I like prime numbers), I don't believe I have ever seen this thing referred to as "stretch", until recently when I found it necessary to make some space and since I belive my techniqe takes longer, I flipped directly to 12/12 then to 11/12 over a couple of days. Previous experience with this strain with a gradual change did not exhibit this, I chose my method 25 years ago bc there is no place on earth where there would be such a dramatic change in lighting schedule. Stretch may have benifits I am unaware of (like bud structure?), but I prefer stalkier plants, they fit my style well.

I can appreciate your use of a different timing scheme, I think shorter cycles for both day and night is certainly worth the effort of investigating.

 

[GroErr]

See now that's just rude sir.
Probably not untrue yet rude nonetheless
You might think I only hang out in here but I have seen your negative comments in many threads and yet still tried to be hospitable to you.
Unfortunately my personality is abrasive to some and not abrasive enough for others.
Have a good day and I wish u luck in your search for someone slightly enjoyable to talk to.

I figured it was Cajun Bob you were referring to in the conversation, had to show ignored content to confirm. He either goes off or on meds about once a month and starts trolling other people's threads for a day or two, then disappears again. Not worth my breath so I put him on ignore a long time ago. Have yet to see him post anything that resembles a decent plant, yet he has so much to say about others. I have an ex like that but she wasn't on meds, thereby the ex moniker

 

[torontoke]

I find your lighting schedule interisting and hope to incorporat what you have learned/seen. I have chosen my light cycles and flip method and will modify it as I see fit. I see it possible that changing day length (e.g. from 24 hrs, to 20 hrs) could very much be usefull. 25 years ago my technique evolved from using the old mechanical timers, I have never (until now) gone direct to flower, I would just gradually shorten day cycles/lengthen night over 14-30 days. Now I am using an arduino, I am not limited to a 24hr day and have basically limitless options for light timing. I currently run 17/7 in veg and 11/13 in flower (I like prime numbers), I don't believe I have ever seen this thing referred to as "stretch", until recently when I found it necessary to make some space and since I belive my techniqe takes longer, I flipped directly to 12/12 then to 11/12 over a couple of days. Previous experience with this strain with a gradual change did not exhibit this, I chose my method 25 years ago bc there is no place on earth where there would be such a dramatic change in lighting schedule. Stretch may have benifits I am unaware of (like bud structure?), but I prefer stalkier plants, they fit my style well.

I can appreciate your use of a different timing scheme, I think shorter cycles for both day and night is certainly worth the effort of investigating.

Thanks
There have been a few of us going back n fourth on this journal with theories and ideas.
I'm only one person trying things with a tiny ass experiment cabinet.
One thing that keeps popping back up is the idea of shortening the entire day.
I'd love to try 8 hours on and 10 or 12 off.
My timer isn't as fancy so I couldn't do it without resetting daily but I'm sure it would work and probably shorten flower times even more.
This last run plants all seemed done by day 45ish not sure if it's because these are Indy doms or the light schedule or the overpowered spectrum maybe a combo of all the above.

I hope you do try something unconventional and please post a link in here so others like myself can follow along.
And good luck with it

 

[torontoke]

I figured it was Cajun Bob you were referring to in the conversation, had to show ignored content to confirm. He either goes off or on meds about once a month and starts trolling other people's threads for a day or two, then disappears again. Not worth my breath so I put him on ignore a long time ago. Have yet to see him post anything that resembles a decent plant, yet he has so much to say about others. I have an ex like that but she wasn't on meds, thereby the ex moniker

Lol I should have known better but I refuse to return to my pessimismistic former self.
Some folks just revel in the thought of sharing misery and their eyore cloud follows them around like a fart at church.
Takes a lot to get under my skin lately and that isn't going to change because of what someone on here says.
I'd sooner quit and never post again then become one of those guys. Arguing about arguing.

 

[GroErr]

Lol I should have known better but I refuse to return to my pessimismistic former self.
Some folks just revel in the thought of sharing misery and their eyore cloud follows them around like a fart at church.
Takes a lot to get under my skin lately and that isn't going to change because of what someone on here says.
I'd sooner quit and never post again then become one of those guys. Arguing about arguing.

Lol, agreed, I don't let any trolls get me going, maybe have some fun with them, then ignore them. I prefer to save my breath for pipe/vape hits

 

[torontoke]

Lol, agreed, I don't let any trolls get me going, maybe have some fun with them, then ignore them. I prefer to save my breath for pipe/vape hits

I used to have a bunch of folks on ignore and one day in the hospital I decided that I should try a new route.
Kill them with kindness and let them paint their character however they choose to.
I can only control how my reactions in all interactions make me feel.
I Don't worry about being liked or respected online just irl where I'm sure most would act differently.

 

[GroErr]

I used to have a bunch of folks on ignore and one day in the hospital I decided that I should try a new route.
Kill them with kindness and let them paint their character however they choose to.
I can only control how my reactions in all interactions make me feel.
I Don't worry about being liked or respected online just irl where I'm sure most would act differently.

You're more patient than I for sure

 

[SSGrower]

Thanks
There have been a few of us going back n fourth on this journal with theories and ideas.
I'm only one person trying things with a tiny ass experiment cabinet.
One thing that keeps popping back up is the idea of shortening the entire day.
I'd love to try 8 hours on and 10 or 12 off.
My timer isn't as fancy so I couldn't do it without resetting daily but I'm sure it would work and probably shorten flower times even more.
This last run plants all seemed done by day 45ish not sure if it's because these are Indy doms or the light schedule or the overpowered spectrum maybe a combo of all the above.

I hope you do try something unconventional and please post a link in here so others like myself can follow along.
And good luck with it

I'm in a 3x3 myself. Here's a link to my thread. https://www.rollitup.org/t/boxed-wine-cabinet-and-cabrenet.933703/#post-13454554

I went the arduino route when a thee timers failed over what seemed like less than a month. Base cost for parts on an arduino, relays, temp/humidity, etc less than 3 timers. Since the arduino uses something called unix time, if you can figure the math out in seconds you can create any timing you wish. You better believe I will be shortening night cycles too, I just got the thing up and running to do all the timing adjustments I used to do manually during transition. I enter start date, veg days, veg light on and off times, number of days to transition and how many hours light during flower. This with the capicity to do environmental controls at a fraction the cost of a titan.

 

[torontoke]

I'm in a 3x3 myself. Here's a link to my thread. https://www.rollitup.org/t/boxed-wine-cabinet-and-cabrenet.933703/#post-13454554

I went the arduino route when a thee timers failed over what seemed like less than a month. Base cost for parts on an arduino, relays, temp/humidity, etc less than 3 timers. Since the arduino uses something called unix time, if you can figure the math out in seconds you can create any timing you wish. You better believe I will be shortening night cycles too, I just got the thing up and running to do all the timing adjustments I used to do manually during transition. I enter start date, veg days, veg light on and off times, number of days to transition and how many hours light during flower. This with the capicity to do environmental controls at a fraction the cost of a titan.

Sounds awesome I'll be watching how it goes.
I've found myself spending more than a minute zoning out thinking of all the roadblocks and problems with all sorts of scenarios. Think the hardest part about switching to a shortened overall day would be keeping track of what actual day you are on in flower.
Like if u used say 8/12 that's only a 20 hr day so you lose 4 hours per day times say a month of 30 days.
4 x 30 is 120 hours or 5 days so ur day 30 is really 25 lol
I'm to much of a stoner to keep track I'd need to pre chart it or I'd get lost.
Now I'm curious if I switched to a cycle like that if I could cut my 46 day run back to 40

Wouldn't that be a bonus.
Good luck sir either way

 

[torontoke]

Just out of curiousity @SSGrower what strains you planning to experiment with?

I've found that the different schedules tend to work best with indica or indica doms.
Sativas can be much more finicky imo however the shortened schedule does speed up their flower times. Even a gradual step down of 1/2 hour a week should shave days off the back end.

 

[SSGrower]

Currently I am running a mix of hybrids hey are, clementine kush (50/50, sat/ind), night nurse (30/70), medicine man (70/30) from seed (im now out of seeds tho), and a clone of swampskunk (or skunkswamp) I dont know much about but supposed to be indica dom.
I have had a 7ft plus tall (long actually, it went around 3 sides of the cabinet), this was before I worked on any pruning or real training, I thinkmthe way I do things now would be helpul and I do enjoy the sativas as well.....

 

[torontoke]

Space phantom "orb" getting chopped

Bodhi tester also getting chopped
Atf x ssdd
Not a yielder but damn she smells sweet

And that's it for that run
Next crop is now in and flipped

2 dream beaver
1 more cowbell
1space monkey
1 elfinstone
1 grandpasbreath
1 space phantom
1 atf x ssdd

 

[wilbertski]

Very nice and very mature for 40 days

Very mature for 40 days dude........how many days do they go for in flower these bad girls!
Nice pic by the way

 

[torontoke]

Very mature for 40 days dude........how many days do they go for in flower these bad girls!
Nice pic by the way

Thanks
They are all chopped
Longest one was 47 days
They only had a bout a 3-4week veg