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ttystikk

ttystikk

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Michiganjesse said:
That is crazy you are still being charged in a legal state as progressive as CO. Man i didn't know that. Good vibes coming your way brother you seem like one of the most helpful people not in it for the money but to help others, no way a jury will convict you. But what a nerve racking ordeal.
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Juries do strange things. Yes it's been tough on my normally happy outlook.
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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Michiganjesse said:
That is crazy you are still being charged in a legal state as progressive as CO. Man i didn't know that. Good vibes coming your way brother you seem like one of the most helpful people not in it for the money but to help others, no way a jury will convict you. But what a nerve racking ordeal.
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I don't know about Colorado but up here if you grow over the limit or get caught selling it's a felony and the government typically pursues a felony.

Best of luck @ttystikk and hopefully your lawyer can find a fault in their case against you.
 
Michiganjesse

Michiganjesse

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ttystikk said:
Juries do strange things. Yes it's been tough on my normally happy outlook.
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Takes a tool for sure I'm pretty versed in some law, if you have any questions. I spent every hour I was allowed in the law library studying. Got some people off case's while i was doing a few years for a few lbs cause I wouldn't talk. Prison sucked but Michigan prison is soft compared to most states. It sucked but I made the best of it studied and worked out and ran. I seen stabings feet away from me people get hot with weights but it's only cause they were in dirt I did my thing laid low. Had a few scuffs one scary situation with gang dude, but it blew over cause an old crippled Christian bible thumper who use to be a player in there made it go away. He changed his ways but still had clout. I still write him to this day may have saved at least a hole in me. Or worse. Jury's can be strange but you may not make it that far bro pm me your situation of you feel comfortable with it and I can guide you possibly. Help to make sure your lawyer whom ever it may be has your best interest at heart. Did you retain one yet? I can ask a friend from Colorado well lived there. Who is a dispensary owner here but knows people there
 
Michiganjesse

Michiganjesse

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Bakersfield said:
I don't know about Colorado but up here if you grow over the limit or get caught selling it's a felony and the government typically pursues a felony.

Best of luck @ttystikk and hopefully your lawyer can find a fault in their case against you.
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That is what a good lawyer does. Loop holes all kinds of them in the law. Paper work dated wrong, conflicting statements. I had a case thrown out on miss dated warrant, and also one at pre trial cause they were at their last day to present evidence and had none on hand expecting me to not fight pre trial and bond over never do this pre trial gives you more chances of them screwing the case up creating more loop holes.
 
Alaric

Alaric

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ttystikk said:
State. Felonies, even still.
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Ouch!!! --------terrible news tyy. No fun living under dark clouds.

What are you charged with?

I agree about the paid lawyer thing-----seems like justice in this country is proportional

to how much you can afford.

However; take a good look at the "early resolution" they may offer-----usually the best plea bargain offer you'll get.

Seems to make the DA mad if you go to trial.

Good luck with everything,

A~~~
 
Michiganjesse

Michiganjesse

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Alaric said:
Ouch!!! --------terrible news tyy. No fun living under dark clouds.

What are you charged with?

I agree about the paid lawyer thing-----seems like justice in this country is proportional

to how much you can afford.

However; take a good look at the "early resolution" they may offer-----usually the best plea bargain offer you'll get.

Seems to make the DA mad if you go to trial.

Good luck with everything,

A~~~
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I disagree often if you file as many motions and go all the way right before trial you can get a better deal all depends on their case against you how weak or how strong it is they expect people to bow out fast with first deal often they have a weak case. Need a lot more detail to real know what is best.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Michiganjesse said:
Takes a tool for sure I'm pretty versed in some law, if you have any questions. I spent every hour I was allowed in the law library studying. Got some people off case's while i was doing a few years for a few lbs cause I wouldn't talk. Prison sucked but Michigan prison is soft compared to most states. It sucked but I made the best of it studied and worked out and ran. I seen stabings feet away from me people get hot with weights but it's only cause they were in dirt I did my thing laid low. Had a few scuffs one scary situation with gang dude, but it blew over cause an old crippled Christian bible thumper who use to be a player in there made it go away. He changed his ways but still had clout. I still write him to this day may have saved at least a hole in me. Or worse. Jury's can be strange but you may not make it that far bro pm me your situation of you feel comfortable with it and I can guide you possibly. Help to make sure your lawyer whom ever it may be has your best interest at heart. Did you retain one yet? I can ask a friend from Colorado well lived there. Who is a dispensary owner here but knows people there
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I'm not one to turn down help from people who know what's up. Message me and we'll chat for sure. I've got nothing to hide anymore, that's one good result of all this!
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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ttystikk said:
State. Felonies, even still. The idea that one can go to prison for growing Cannabis in a legal state is something I'd like to see a jury decide.

Thanks for the good vibes. I have a laundry list of medical patients who are itching to testify on my behalf, I think my chances are pretty good.
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I wouldnt necessarily consider myself a religious man, but god bless you. Been there, done that, charged with sales and transportation in 2001, two felonies. It worked out, as I pray it will for you. Good luck, be safe.
 
greg nr

greg nr

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I read the new CO law cuz this got me interested. While they way lowered the limits, at least it's only a misdemeanor for 6 plants over the limit. After that, it's all felony. But 6 mature plants and a 12 plant limit is gonna really hobble a lot of growers. What is a mature plant, anyway?

I really hope they just give tickets for being a few plants over the limit. Even a misdemeanor can cost you 6 months. Nobody is trying to deal by starting a few extra clones so you end up with a few healthy ones, but they can go to jail for it nonetheless.

This is a crazy patchwork and very perilous for people who get caught in a technical violation (violating the letter of the law but not the intent).
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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greg nr said:
I read the new CO law cuz this got me interested. While they way lowered the limits, at least it's only a misdemeanor for 6 plants over the limit. After that, it's all felony. But 6 mature plants and a 12 plant limit is gonna really hobble a lot of growers. What is a mature plant, anyway?

I really hope they just give tickets for being a few plants over the limit. Even a misdemeanor can cost you 6 months. Nobody is trying to deal by starting a few extra clones so you end up with a few healthy ones, but they can go to jail for it nonetheless.

This is a crazy patchwork and very perilous for people who get caught in a technical violation (violating the letter of the law but not the intent).
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That's the game; it's legal but they can trip you up with the details any time they want. It's back door prohibition without having to admit that's their intent.
 
SSGrower

SSGrower

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greg nr said:
What is a mature plant, anyway?
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Better yet what is a plant, aerocloning and whatever the technical term for a branch that has broken, been covered and rooted but is still attached to the main plant?? This colorado law and local juristictional control (counties hasmtheir own ordinances) is an exaple to all other states, the citizens must fight for equal rights of the licensed distributors. This includes access to all laboratory testing, and technological, and legal assistance (called the county once asked them if they would come audit me, no way but they offer it for existing licensed facilities).

What we do have is this social forum and im thankful for that at least8-)8-)8-)
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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SSGrower said:
Better yet what is a plant, aerocloning and whatever the technical term for a branch that has broken, been covered and rooted but is still attached to the main plant?? This colorado law and local juristictional control (counties hasmtheir own ordinances) is an exaple to all other states, the citizens must fight for equal rights of the licensed distributors. This includes access to all laboratory testing, and technological, and legal assistance (called the county once asked them if they would come audit me, no way but they offer it for existing licensed facilities).

What we do have is this social forum and im thankful for that at least8-)8-)8-)
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The simple fact is that they're trying to get rid of private growers as we threaten the profitability of the industry.

We give ourselves rights and the legislature taketh away...
 
SSGrower

SSGrower

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Official announcement hot tub season in the high country is not over (though it may take a break sometime in july or august)......storm door glass replaced with window screen and birds are a chirpin......waiting for 2ft of snow..........
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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SSGrower said:
Official announcement hot tub season in the high country is not over (though it may take a break sometime in july or august)......storm door glass replaced with window screen and birds are a chirpin......waiting for 2ft of snow..........
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We need all the snow we can get. It's getting pretty dry.
 
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