Aero/NFT Drooping

Rovin

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Hello guys! I appreciate any advice, new grower here with lots to learn.

I seem to be having a problem with wilting plants in the aero/nft rails!

Light - 630 sun systems lec, ph 5.8, ppm around 800 (botanicare), temps 70-76, RH 40-60. Lights at around 16-20" with no signs of damage. Timer ATM is 1min on/ 1min off, res = 63-66f.

I have tried the timer 1.2/8, 1/4, 1/5 and have even raised the Rez end to try and slow the waterfall down. But, I can't seem to get the plants to stop drooping. I have 2 ezclone sprayers per plant spaced at around 3" from the middle of 3" net pots in a 5x5 rail and the hole spray looks great.

The plants do great in the cloner and pop back up quickly praying to the T5, I just cant get them to thrive in the rails and the roots look great.

This is my first grow and I'm having a ton of fun with this new hobby. I just need some help figuring out what I am doing wrong. Should I be trimming fan leaves? Kinda getting bushy at 5 weeks into veg!

Thanks Rovin
 

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Niblixdark

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Hello guys! I appreciate any advice, new grower here with lots to learn.

I seem to be having a problem with wilting plants in the aero/nft rails!

Light - 630 sun systems lec, ph 5.8, ppm around 800 (botanicare), temps 70-76, RH 40-60. Lights at around 16-20" with no signs of damage. Timer ATM is 1min on/ 1min off, res = 63-66f.

I have tried the timer 1.2/8, 1/4, 1/5 and have even raised the Rez end to try and slow the waterfall down. But, I can't seem to get the plants to stop drooping. I have 2 ezclone sprayers per plant spaced at around 3" from the middle of 3" net pots in a 5x5 rail and the hole spray looks great.

The plants do great in the cloner and pop back up quickly praying to the T5, I just cant get them to thrive in the rails and the roots look great.

This is my first grow and I'm having a ton of fun with this new hobby. I just need some help figuring out what I am doing wrong. Should I be trimming fan leaves? Kinda getting bushy at 5 weeks into veg!

Thanks Rovin
Lower the humidity a bit more perhaps and raise the pH to around 6.0 to 6.3 am going to lean towards your pH just a bit off for vegging. But they don't really look that bad to be honest, just bump up the pH.
 
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Atomizer

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Check the temperature inside the rails, it could easily be 80-90F from the radiant heat of the light ;) Cant see what you have the plants in from the pics. If its netpots with hydroton, no problem. If rockwool cubes are involved check that they`re not soaking wet.
 

Rovin

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Lower the humidity a bit more perhaps and raise the pH to around 6.0 to 6.3 am going to lean towards your pH just a bit off for vegging. But they don't really look that bad to be honest, just bump up the pH.
Thanks for the reply. I have bumped up the ph to 6.1. Appreciate the tip and the positive comment.

My veg research has me at RH 40-70, have you found a sweet spot? My next purchase is a defumidifier, thanks again for the help.
 
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Rovin

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Check the temperature inside the rails, it could easily be 80-90F from the radiant heat of the light ;) Cant see what you have the plants in from the pics. If its netpots with hydroton, no problem. If rockwool cubes are involved check that they`re not soaking wet.
Thanks for the comment! Plants are in neoprene collars. I will insulate the rails, I didn't think it could get that hot in there. Thanks!
 

Atomizer

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ahh, no worries about soaked roots then. The collars will do a decent job of sealing the rails, making it harder for heat to escape. I`d stick a min/max temp probe in a collar directly under the light and see what the rail temp swing is over 24hrs.
 

Niblixdark

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Thanks for the reply. I have bumped up the ph to 6.1. Appreciate the tip and the positive comment.

My veg research has me at RH 40-70, have you found a sweet spot? My next purchase is a defumidifier, thanks again for the help.
60% Veggie
 

Rovin

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ahh, no worries about soaked roots then. The collars will do a decent job of sealing the rails, making it harder for heat to escape. I`d stick a min/max temp probe in a collar directly under the light and see what the rail temp swing is over 24hrs.
Will give this a shot! I also think my nutes are a bit low at 700, light green. Raised to 1000 ppm and hoping for the best.
 

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Rovin

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Check the temperature inside the rails, it could easily be 80-90F from the radiant heat of the light ;) Cant see what you have the plants in from the pics. If its netpots with hydroton, no problem. If rockwool cubes are involved check that they`re not soaking wet.
You nailed it man! Thank you so much. Hot root zone! Check them out after insulating.
 

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