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[HAF2]

Oh sorry. Yes I think you answered in a way that avoided the question.

I do like that you said you would not give your business to a known racist though, I think who you associate with should always be your choice and nobody should try to tell you different. Since nobody should make you associate with a racist, would you say nobody has the right to force another person to associate also or do you then change your mind and contradict your previous position?
No that is incorrect, I try hard not to associate with racists.

You're interchanging a patron with a business owner, different things. Maybe me having to repeate myself answering your questions was confusing?
People get distracted with someone doing the repeater.

 

[Rob Roy]

If you don't want to interact with people you don't own a business that serves people. They are making that choice.
Your argument is insane.

...and your arguments all rely on holding two opposing beliefs at once.


What exactly do you find insane about allowing people the freedom to chose their associations on a mutual and consenting basis ?

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't advocate for racists

then what do you call this?

If a person IS a racist though and if they are looking to politely notice somebody of that fact what would you recommend they do ?

they have to open up a private club. we used to let them have regular public stores, but it caused too much harm to the black folks they discriminated against, a fact which you refuse to acknowledge because you are a rqcial segregationist and it destroys your entire philosophy.

 

[Big_Lou]

Just noticed, lower right corner - ANALEXCESS! LOL


(Also, why is this version clearer than the first one I posted? Fucking weird, man.....)

 

[HAF2]

...and your arguments all rely on holding two opposing beliefs at once.


What exactly do you find insane about allowing people the freedom to chose their associations on a mutual and consenting basis ?

I would tell them to move to bigots island and discriminate their little hearts out.

Otherwise, stfu.

 

[Rob Roy]

You're interchanging a patron with a business owner, different things. Maybe me having to repeate myself answering your questions was confusing?
People get distracted with someone doing the repeater.

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I'm recognizing that nobody has the right to initiate force against another person or another persons property.

No, I'm not confused. I'm pretty steadfast in my belief that you shouldn't be forced to associate with someone you prefer not to. Don't you believe that too?

 

[UncleBuck]

What exactly do you find insane about allowing people the freedom to chose their associations on a mutual and consenting basis ?

the fact that you use that phrase as your euphemism for kicking black people out of stores just because they're black.

 

[Big_Lou]

I would tell them to move to bigots island and discriminate their little hearts out.

Otherwise, stfu.

 

[UncleBuck]

I'm recognizing that nobody has the right to initiate force against another person or another persons property.

a black customer going into a store and paying for stuff with money is not initiating force.

telling someone to get out of a store because of their skin color is initiating force.

you have it all backwards, ya fucking pedophile.

 

[Rob Roy]

I would tell them to move to biggots island and discriminate their little hearts out.

Otherwise, stfu.

I would try to persuade them with ideas and if I couldn't I'd respect their right to control their own body and their own property and ignore them. I'd not force them to move though, since I don't have the right to use offensive force.

Do you guys who like to use offensive force get your own island too or is that only for "biggots" (sic) ?

 

[UncleBuck]

I'd respect their right to control their own body and their own property

kicking black people out of stores because of their skin color is not a right, bobby. it causes harm to others, and no one has a right to cause harm to others.

pedophile.

 

[HAF2]

I would try to persuade them with ideas and if I couldn't I'd respect their right to control their own body and their own property and ignore them. I'd not force them to move though, since I don't have the right to use offensive force.

Do you guys who like to use offensive force get your own island too or is that only for "biggots" (sic) ?

You're so great at persuading with your ideas. I have changed my mind and feel that I should be totally ok with people being as racist as they please.

 

[UncleBuck]

You're so great at persuading with your ideas.

he wins literally every debate he ever has against me, which is why no one on this entire website thinks he is a pedophile.

 

[UncleBuck]

I'm not taking a racists point of view

then explain why you called it "polite and reasonable" to hang a sign disallowing black customers. in which context is that not taking the racists' point of view?

 

[Rob Roy]

kicking black people out of stores because of their skin color is not a right, bobby. it causes harm to others, and no one has a right to cause harm to others.

pedophile.

Nobody has the right to INITIATE harm to others or determine the use of property which isn't theirs.

All people have the right to be free from another person forcing them to associate or forcing them to serve them.

Poopy Pants.

 

[UncleBuck]

Nobody has the right to INITIATE harm to others

which is why we made it illegal to refuse service to people based on their skin color, despite your whiny pussy, white supremacist protestations.

you lost, get over it.

 

[Big_Lou]

he wins literally every debate he ever has against me, which is why no one on this entire website thinks he is a pedophile.

For the last time, Raw Boy is NOT a pedophile! So, a 12-year-old canNOT consent -- are you AGAINST personal choices and human rights, then?? What about a consenting 6-year-old? FREE WILL!

 

[Rob Roy]

You're so great at persuading with your ideas. I have changed my mind and feel that I should be totally ok with people being as racist as they please.

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That's an unfair attempt to frame my position as racist and to dodge your own hypocrisy.

I'm not okay with people being racists, but I don't have the right to tell other people what to think or to force them to serve me or to force them to use their property in ways that I prefer and they don't.

What makes you think you have the right to do those things?


Also, I've never tried to convince anyone that they should be okay with a racist. I've tried to convince people they have no right to force a racist to serve them. Forcing people to serve you, is what slave owners did. You're not advocating slavery are you?

 

[UncleBuck]

That's an unfair attempt to frame my position as racist

you said it was "reasonable and appropriate" to hang a sign disallowing black people from a store, pedophile.

 

[Rob Roy]

which is why we made it illegal to refuse service to people based on their skin color, despite your whiny pussy, white supremacist protestations.

you lost, get over it.

Making something illegal or legal doesn't justify anybody forcing another person to serve them.

Forcing people to associate when one party doesn't want to, is just as bad as using force to prevent two people from associating if they both want to.