removing leaves

Dumme

Dumme

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
people have been fishing for thousands of years. every once in a while, some one comes out with "the future of fishing" which will "change the way the world fishes forever!" they usually enjoy a small amount of success, before the world drops them in the tackle box with the ronco pocket fisherman and the floating keychain. why does the world drop them in the "trash" tackle box? because the process was streamlined before they were born, and it works.why fix something that works? why put extra effort into getting basically the same or worse results?
people have been growing weed as long as they've been fishing. they do it the way they do it for the same reason. it works. they've tried defoliation, they've tried molasses, they've tried fishguts, they've tried dancing in the moonlight...some of it works, and they keep doing it, some of its a total waste of time, and they quit doing it.
someone re-invents the wheel daily, while the rest of the world is busy rolling down the road
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I like it, mind if I borrow it?
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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selective defoliation to allow light into the canopy a bit farther... sure.

defoliation of leaves = plant can not feed itself properly. photosynthesis drives plant processes. decrease in photosynthesis = decrease in processes.... ugh when will people learn to LITFA????
 
Kevin Pickford

Kevin Pickford

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ShLUbY said:
selective defoliation to allow light into the canopy a bit farther... sure.

defoliation of leaves = plant can not feed itself properly. photosynthesis drives plant processes. decrease in photosynthesis = decrease in processes.... ugh when will people learn to LITFA????
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Any removal of leaves should ONLY be done at specific times and you never want to try it on a first run if you only have one plant... always make your first grow test a scissor free grow...no lst either...just wait to try any enhancements/ alterations to normal grow until after you know what it does a natural and you have clones lol.
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Kevin Pickford said:
Any removal of leaves should ONLY be done at specific times and you never want to try it on a first run if you only have one plant... always make your first grow test a scissor free grow...no lst either...just wait to try any enhancements/ alterations to normal grow until after you know what it does a natural and you have clones lol.
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Ppl just dont understand how plants function lol. I just find it hilarious when i see this "do i defoliate a bunch????" And then DO IT :lol:
 
irish grower

irish grower

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do you all think in the wild that plants live happily,they dont animals eat them trample them and break them,flys sleep on there leafs because they fall together like blankets,i defoliate top lollypop everything break them on purpose,it drives bud production because the plant adapts
 
Dumme

Dumme

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About every 2 or 3 months, someone comes alone to "prove" defoliation is a good technique. A couple more months the same people are convinced its not, and try and talk the new bunch of noobies from doing it...

The circle continues on. This too shall pass...
 
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KryptoBud

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Kevin Pickford said:
Any removal of leaves should ONLY be done at specific times and you never want to try it on a first run if you only have one plant... always make your first grow test a scissor free grow...no lst either...just wait to try any enhancements/ alterations to normal grow until after you know what it does a natural and you have clones lol.
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Can you explain when and why please? I've seen this stated multiple times and never seen an explanation on these specific times. Usually people throw out things like weeks 3 and 6 with no real data to back their claims or any side by side grows to show it works.
 
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KryptoBud

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irish grower said:
do you all think in the wild that plants live happily,they dont animals eat them trample them and break them,flys sleep on there leafs because they fall together like blankets,i defoliate top lollypop everything break them on purpose,it drives bud production because the plant adapts
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Most people are growing for yield and quality why the hell would you trample and break them? They also have animals piss on them, they're covered with bugs and dirt, go threw drought, temp swings and end up pollinated in "the wild" do suggest do all that as well?
It drives bud production because plants adapt??? huh? Imagine the bud production of plants in ideal conditions.
This part is sig worthy and the best answer i've seen for defoliation. Classic!
flys sleep on there leafs because they fall together like blankets
 
Kevin Pickford

Kevin Pickford

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KryptoBud said:
Can you explain when and why please? I've seen this stated multiple times and never seen an explanation on these specific times. Usually people throw out things like weeks 3 and 6 with no real data to back their claims or any side by side grows to show it works.
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On some of my Indica crosses they are ridiculously bushy and really tightly noded..so I first grew without cut and got 2.5... second run I removed a few leaves that were blocking light using the same size clones and nutes/ conditions the same and immediately after it popped.. also tighed the smaller buds closer to light... Tied the colas down lower than the small buds..7 days later untied everything and took 4 good clones 5in long from bottom of plant that hadn't flowered yet..and got them ready for 4 weeks.. the same strain produced 212 grams...
That said..a Sativa kush cross i did at the same time with method b produced 80 grams less than the first method (not cutting ANYTHING) so this run I've got the indicas selectively clipped and tied down.. but the Sativas I'm keeping a natural.. no scissors this run.
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That's the Indica and she's just to dense a bush and underproduces if you just let her go natural.. only 2.5 oz when I do this style.. Lil buds...
Same strain day 24 but with method b and shes so heavy I'm trying her branches to top of tent Saturday
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Kevin Pickford

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They look so sad when they need plan b.. definitely no 'HIGH TIMES' photo ops with the clip and snip lol!!! But that's why grow sativas too.. they look so righteius with their beautiful leaves and monstor Colas!
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ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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i can't tell if you're being a troll or not....

if you honestly think you're doing good for that plant defoliating like that... you need some serious botanical education lol
 
Kevin Pickford

Kevin Pickford

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ShLUbY said:
i can't tell if you're being a troll or not....

if you honestly think you're doing good for that plant defoliating like that... you need some serious botanical education lol
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God is the judge... I've never judged your post.. but yeah I guess I'm the troll? Anywho I was just sharing my example.. not comparing it to yours or anything.
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Kevin Pickford said:
God is the judge... I've never judged your post.. but yeah I guess I'm the troll? Anywho I was just sharing my example.. not comparing it to yours or anything.
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oh brother. goodbye. good luck with starving your plants by trimming off their leaves!
 
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